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Post by rj131 on Aug 15, 2022 15:43:39 GMT
What’s ‘build logs’? Body numbers, chassis numbers etc. Bus Lists on the Web is the best place to find that stuff: www.buslistsontheweb.co.ukGotcha it is bus lists on the web, it sounded like you were talking about building logs as a similar sort of website
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Post by intro on Aug 16, 2022 21:41:29 GMT
A closer look at the new Wright Streetdeck ev’s:
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Post by sleckdeck on Aug 19, 2022 16:56:00 GMT
Is it possible for extra buses to be ran on the 267? The route is suffering a great deal due to constant passengers boarding to Twickenham and Chiswick as there is no alternative down to Richmond from say Brentford/Isleworth.
I think this strike has shown why anyone with a few brain cells would have been against the 267’s NBFL conversion - too many people standing and not many people making shorter journeys
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Post by greenboy on Aug 19, 2022 17:10:21 GMT
Is it possible for extra buses to be ran on the 267? The route is suffering a great deal due to constant passengers boarding to Twickenham and Chiswick as there is no alternative down to Richmond from say Brentford/Isleworth. I think this strike has shown why anyone with a few brain cells would have been against the 267’s NBFL conversion - too many people standing and not many people making shorter journeys What difference do LTs make other than reducing dwell times?
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 19, 2022 17:23:17 GMT
Is it possible for extra buses to be ran on the 267? The route is suffering a great deal due to constant passengers boarding to Twickenham and Chiswick as there is no alternative down to Richmond from say Brentford/Isleworth. I think this strike has shown why anyone with a few brain cells would have been against the 267’s NBFL conversion - too many people standing and not many people making shorter journeys What difference do LTs make other than reducing dwell times? Wondered that as well, we have already debated the number of seats on an LT and conventional bus are exactly the same, so the too many standing is nonsensical, especially as LTs have a lower standing capacity compared to a conventional bus.
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Post by sleckdeck on Aug 19, 2022 17:56:05 GMT
What difference do LTs make other than reducing dwell times? Wondered that as well, we have already debated the number of seats on an LT and conventional bus are exactly the same, so the too many standing is nonsensical, especially as LTs have a lower standing capacity compared to a conventional bus. Most passengers on the LTs (at least as a daily user of the 267) will always squash by the front as there are no seats at the back, as opposed to the 237 which is a busier route usually. This might just be a passenger problem however.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 20, 2022 1:19:29 GMT
Wondered that as well, we have already debated the number of seats on an LT and conventional bus are exactly the same, so the too many standing is nonsensical, especially as LTs have a lower standing capacity compared to a conventional bus. Most passengers on the LTs (at least as a daily user of the 267) will always squash by the front as there are no seats at the back, as opposed to the 237 which is a busier route usually. This might just be a passenger problem however. It sounds like a passenger problem - I can't see how the 267 has any special requirements that should stop it from using LT's over other LT routes
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Post by sleckdeck on Aug 20, 2022 1:37:23 GMT
Most passengers on the LTs (at least as a daily user of the 267) will always squash by the front as there are no seats at the back, as opposed to the 237 which is a busier route usually. This might just be a passenger problem however. It sounds like a passenger problem - I can't see how the 267 has any special requirements that should stop it from using LT's over other LT routes Perhaps it is, the problems only really were noticeable with LTs coming into action - it is a general nightmare that nobody can’t be bothered to move a few steps towards the back because there’s no seats. It is weird because the route does make a lot of longer distance journeys yet nobody will go upstairs.
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Post by dragonman on Aug 20, 2022 19:52:28 GMT
Do most people find Abellio's red moquette rather bland, or do people quite like it. I used to find it bland myself but it's actually grown on me now. I also like the seat designs too (i forget the name of those particular types of seats, but they're the same as the ones used on the ex-first Gemini 2s). Would be interested to hear (or rather read!) other people's opinions anyway.
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Post by intro on Aug 20, 2022 20:16:10 GMT
Do most people find Abellio's red moquette rather bland, or do people quite like it. I used to find it bland myself but it's actually grown on me now. I also like the seat designs too (i forget the name of those particular types of seats, but they're the same as the ones used on the ex-first Gemini 2s). Would be interested to hear (or rather read!) other people's opinions anyway. The Lazzerini Pratico’s on Abellio’s buses are much better than the Esteban Civic’s used on most other operators.
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Post by lb99 on Aug 22, 2022 10:35:50 GMT
Any clue whats being used for the 671? i reckon 1 E400H could be freed up from somewhere.
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Post by YX10FFN on Aug 22, 2022 12:03:25 GMT
Any clue whats being used for the 671? i reckon 1 E400H could be freed up from somewhere. I’m pretty sure it will be an LT, there are a few spare at TF and the route has seen LTs a few times before for V extras.
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 22, 2022 12:48:09 GMT
It sounds like a passenger problem - I can't see how the 267 has any special requirements that should stop it from using LT's over other LT routes Perhaps it is, the problems only really were noticeable with LTs coming into action - it is a general nightmare that nobody can’t be bothered to move a few steps towards the back because there’s no seats. It is weird because the route does make a lot of longer distance journeys yet nobody will go upstairs. But really that’s a problem on every bus. Passengers congregate around the middle doors but don’t venture beyond that to stand further back. Frankly I’m glad of it, I don’t really want someone’s arse in my face when I’m sitting down.
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Post by M1104 on Aug 22, 2022 13:53:30 GMT
Travelled on a P5 Caetano for two stops along Acre Lane and didn't realise (or forgotten) that they sound identical to the motors on LTs but with better acceleration/torque. I'm also suprised that i never mentioned how much the Caetano exterior reminds me of the DRL class Darts that used to be on the P11 and 295 (baring in mind they're all Plaxton bodies).
Also noticed that both set of doors are somewhat reminiscent of the Bakerloo Line's 72 stock in that the beeping is about a second ahead of the doors moving to shut. That in itself reminds me of the short lived Marshall bodied Darts on the 295, their door operation programmed to be delayed by the audio messages¹ beforehand.
¹ - "stand clear....door opening/closing"
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Post by sleckdeck on Aug 23, 2022 11:23:43 GMT
Any clue whats being used for the 671? i reckon 1 E400H could be freed up from somewhere. I’m pretty sure it will be an LT, there are a few spare at TF and the route has seen LTs a few times before for V extras. The 111’s LTs will all be leaving TF soon for the take up of the H32 and possibly the conversion of another route, which could be the H98. H91 I’m pretty sure is being converted by LT101-110. A spare MMC from the 285 could easily cover the route. Also not too sure if LTs are allowed in Ham unless they turn at Kingston Fire Station.
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