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Post by portman227 on Jul 28, 2020 14:12:33 GMT
Took a ride on one of the C20s new buses this morning, my initial thoughts were the exterior is a bit boring, slightly too boxy for my liking but the interior is much more spacious than I was expecting although the lazzerini seats don’t quite work for me. I assume you mean C10, tbh i find them much better looking than the common BYD's running around london cos they still feel like MMC's to me. The seats you will only like if you are use to them, they are more comfortable to me then the normal ones you see on GAL buses. The caetanos offer better ride for me although i do think they are a bit tight and tricky for the P5
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Post by busman on Jul 28, 2020 14:36:04 GMT
Took a ride on one of the C20s new buses this morning, my initial thoughts were the exterior is a bit boring, slightly too boxy for my liking but the interior is much more spacious than I was expecting although the lazzerini seats don’t quite work for me. I assume you mean C10, tbh i find them much better looking than the common BYD's running around london cos they still feel like MMC's to me. The seats you will only like if you are use to them, they are more comfortable to me then the normal ones you see on GAL buses. The caetanos offer better ride for me although i do think they are a bit tight and tricky for the P5 Agree. The left turn from Vassall Road onto Camberwell New Road is very tight. I’ve seen buses clip the nearside curb and also traffic reversing at the lights opposite to allow buses to complete the turn.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 28, 2020 17:26:58 GMT
I assume you mean C10, tbh i find them much better looking than the common BYD's running around london cos they still feel like MMC's to me. The seats you will only like if you are use to them, they are more comfortable to me then the normal ones you see on GAL buses. The caetanos offer better ride for me although i do think they are a bit tight and tricky for the P5 Agree. The left turn from Vassall Road onto Camberwell New Road is very tight. I’ve seen buses clip the nearside curb and also traffic reversing at the lights opposite to allow buses to complete the turn. It’s tight but it can be done without clipping the kerb, as I found out when on a 10.8m Enviro 200 under Go-Ahead - 10.9m SEe’s were also cleared for the route.
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Post by adl on Jul 28, 2020 22:04:37 GMT
2037 - 2046 (10 buses) are now appear on the GOV site. This I’d assume mean that when All 10 are in service, the ADE can return to London United. Will be interesting to see if Abellio focus on getting the last buses of the 270s allocation as it’d mean that all loaned buses are returned.
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Post by george on Jul 28, 2020 22:31:25 GMT
Why does the 156 have change over points at Vauxhall when the route pretty much passes outside of QB?
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Post by M1104 on Jul 28, 2020 23:24:34 GMT
Why does the 156 have change over points at Vauxhall when the route pretty much passes outside of QB? I'm guessing that at the time TfL didn't want two routes changing on the Queenstown Road, the other route then being the 452. There's also the factor of staff facilities at Vauxhall Bus Station. This is just me guessing mind you.
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Post by MoEnviro on Jul 29, 2020 9:43:30 GMT
Why does the 156 have change over points at Vauxhall when the route pretty much passes outside of QB? I'm guessing that at the time TfL didn't want two routes changing on the Queenstown Road, the other route then being the 452. There's also the factor of staff facilities at Vauxhall Bus Station. This is just me guessing mind you. It could also be because some operators believe it provides a more reliable service if changeovers are at the end of a route.
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Post by goldenarrow on Jul 29, 2020 15:19:42 GMT
2042 and 2045 have made it out into service on the 285 in the past 24 hrs.
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Post by askaway on Jul 30, 2020 13:07:34 GMT
Its been suggested by a reliable source that with BC supposedly having rather limited space the 270 could be moved to QB or the 201 to WL to facilitate the 315 option into BC. 270 would probably be the one to move, since its buses can't be used on any routes, 201 being a bit easier to share common fleet with the enviros at BC. 484 due to leave WL which means p13 will be the only diesel single deck route alongside 201 if it does move. Does this mean the 270 could potentially have e400 for longer?
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Post by adl on Jul 30, 2020 13:15:03 GMT
270 would probably be the one to move, since its buses can't be used on any routes, 201 being a bit easier to share common fleet with the enviros at BC. 484 due to leave WL which means p13 will be the only diesel single deck route alongside 201 if it does move. Does this mean the 270 could potentially have e400 for longer? The 270 seems to be having its last buses delivered after the 285s buses however around 12 of the 285s buses are now registered so I don’t think it’ll be long for the 285 to be fully converted with the 270 only needing 6 more buses to be delivered. I should imagine these will all be in service prior to September alongside most of the 425s batch as Arriva are expecting their buses on time for one of their routes and things have picked up since ADL has been back, for example the 285 is getting buses registered as well as the 425 so I’d imagine once the 285 is completed the rest of the 270s will arrive.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 30, 2020 13:33:44 GMT
270 would probably be the one to move, since its buses can't be used on any routes, 201 being a bit easier to share common fleet with the enviros at BC. 484 due to leave WL which means p13 will be the only diesel single deck route alongside 201 if it does move. Does this mean the 270 could potentially have e400 for longer? The 270 will only have the older Enviro 400's until the rest of it's MMC's are delivered
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Post by askaway on Jul 30, 2020 15:16:35 GMT
Does this mean the 270 could potentially have e400 for longer? The 270 will only have the older Enviro 400's until the rest of it's MMC's are delivered I know but is there a potential of e400 occasionally doing the route even after the mmc's fill it up since it could be based at QB where the e400 are?
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Post by Max B on Jul 30, 2020 15:43:38 GMT
The 270 will only have the older Enviro 400's until the rest of it's MMC's are delivered I know but is there a potential of e400 occasionally doing the route even after the mmc's fill it up since it could be based at QB where the e400 are? Yes and no. Plus it could also intermix with the 344’s MMC’s, Enviro400H’s and the 49’s E400H’s instead if it moves to QB.
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Post by LJ17THF on Jul 30, 2020 16:36:19 GMT
The 270 will only have the older Enviro 400's until the rest of it's MMC's are delivered I know but is there a potential of e400 occasionally doing the route even after the mmc's fill it up since it could be based at QB where the e400 are? I doubt it will go to QB because Abellio might want to reserve that space for routes that don't go anywhere near any other Abellio garage, while the 270 ends at Mitcham, which is rather close to BC. If you'd like to see something similar to the Enviro400 design, you don't really have to worry, the 407 is based there and uses some Enviro400H first generation and I'm sure there will be strays
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Post by adl on Jul 30, 2020 16:40:17 GMT
The 270 will only have the older Enviro 400's until the rest of it's MMC's are delivered I know but is there a potential of e400 occasionally doing the route even after the mmc's fill it up since it could be based at QB where the e400 are? That's if the route even moves to QB. I'd alos imagine E400s will not be reblinded seeing as the 414 and 156 are up for tender this year and both will need new buses on their next contract. I imagine that should the 270 move to QB the MMCs and E400Hs will be reblinded for the route.
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