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Post by wirewiper on Dec 13, 2023 18:42:02 GMT
The Port of London Authority has commissioned a report to look at improving cross-river links in East London. The report has recommended three locations where electrically-operated ferries for pedestrians and cyclists could be provided. The ferries would cost a fraction of the cost of a fixed bridge or tunnel link, and could be implemented in a short timescale. They would also support the Mayor of London's aim that 80% of all trips in London be on foot, by cycle or public transport by 2041. The crossings proposed are all close to areas of major redevelopment, which are seriously lacking in cross-river connectivity. They are: - North Greenwich Peninsula (western side - Delta Wharf area) and Canary Wharf/Isle of Dogs. - Royal Wharf (Royal Docks/Silvertown) - Charlton - Barking Riverside - Thamesmead. Separately, Uber Boats is also consulting on plans to upgrade its existing Canary Wharf - Rotherhithe ferry service with electric boats and redesigned piers. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/proposals-for-three-new-ferry-crossings-in-east-london-68176/ |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Dec 13, 2023 19:52:59 GMT
What's with this mayor and obsession with cyclists? They're half the reason there's so much traffic!
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Post by WH241 on Dec 13, 2023 20:09:11 GMT
What's with this mayor and obsession with cyclists? They're half the reason there's so much traffic! They are making a right mess of Silvertown Way because they are installing wide cycle lanes and those awful bus stops when the stop is on an island! You would think they would be making the road wider as this will become much busier when Silvertown Tunnel opens. |
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Post by ronnie on Dec 13, 2023 21:45:00 GMT
For F’s sake get the woolwich ferry running properly (a ferry which is actually used by real working people) before you start with this cycle ferry cr*p
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Post by vjaska on Dec 13, 2023 23:00:22 GMT
The Port of London Authority has commissioned a report to look at improving cross-river links in East London. The report has recommended three locations where electrically-operated ferries for pedestrians and cyclists could be provided. The ferries would cost a fraction of the cost of a fixed bridge or tunnel link, and could be implemented in a short timescale. They would also support the Mayor of London's aim that 80% of all trips in London be on foot, by cycle or public transport by 2041. The crossings proposed are all close to areas of major redevelopment, which are seriously lacking in cross-river connectivity. They are: - North Greenwich Peninsula (western side - Delta Wharf area) and Canary Wharf/Isle of Dogs. - Royal Wharf (Royal Docks/Silvertown) - Charlton - Barking Riverside - Thamesmead. Separately, Uber Boats is also consulting on plans to upgrade its existing Canary Wharf - Rotherhithe ferry service with electric boats and redesigned piers. www.ianvisits.co.uk/articles/proposals-for-three-new-ferry-crossings-in-east-london-68176/Another slap in the face for buses and cost is always used as an excuse not to do anything in this country. I’ve no problem with an integrated pedestrian, cycle and bus bridge and that is realistically the best way you’ll get people to switch |
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Post by joefrombow on Dec 14, 2023 12:07:43 GMT
They can't even get Woolwich ferry to work let alone introduce new ones and yet again nothing for the road network , Silvertown & Canning Town are going to be screwed once the tunnel opens and one of the crossings closes for any reason , Thamesmead one is a good idea though .
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Post by mark on Dec 14, 2023 14:37:10 GMT
What's with this mayor and obsession with cyclists? They're half the reason there's so much traffic! Because the cycling lobby is very well organised and vocal and it's had the ear of all three London mayors to a greater or lesser extent. TfL's current funding settlement (in other words central government) requires it to spend £80m a year on "active travel". We have lost key sections of bus lane for cyclists - Waterloo Bridge for example. It wouldn't be so bad if their use was mandatory but all to often I have seen a cyclist in the northbound bus lane on Vauxhall Bridge holding up a line of buses whilst there is a totally empty cycleway on the other side. Now if anyone actually proposed spending vast amounts of money on a transport initiative that was largely for the benefit of white middle aged males they'd be laughed out of court.... |
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Post by imarkeh on Dec 14, 2023 15:51:50 GMT
More ferries is good but there needs to be more competition on the river. Thames Clipper are awful. Unreliable, often at capacity and they have such confusing services, almost all trips have different stopping patterns, lack of willingness to serve so many of the piers with a proper service too (Look at Woolwich and Barking Riverside, no Mon-Fri daytime service). Very expensive too for what they are. Given the amount of boats on the Thames, it's a shame that so many are just for tours or irregular work. So much potential to get more people moving on the river.
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Post by greenboy on Dec 14, 2023 19:44:45 GMT
What's with this mayor and obsession with cyclists? They're half the reason there's so much traffic! Because the cycling lobby is very well organised and vocal and it's had the ear of all three London mayors to a greater or lesser extent. TfL's current funding settlement (in other words central government) requires it to spend £80m a year on "active travel". We have lost key sections of bus lane for cyclists - Waterloo Bridge for example. It wouldn't be so bad if their use was mandatory but all to often I have seen a cyclist in the northbound bus lane on Vauxhall Bridge holding up a line of buses whilst there is a totally empty cycleway on the other side. Now if anyone actually proposed spending vast amounts of money on a transport initiative that was largely for the benefit of white middle aged males they'd be laughed out of court.... Cycling is available to anybody who is in reasonably good health and the money spent on it is long overdue after being largely neglected for decades. |
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Post by matthieu1221 on Dec 17, 2023 0:36:33 GMT
Why not I suppose if:
1. Runs frequently (every <10 mins) and far more reliably than the Woolwich Ferry
2. Proper bus interchanges at piers on either side of the route so passengers can continue onwards
3. Intermodal hopper with buses (and 'normal' bus priced fares for the ferry)
The ferry can work as a proper component of the transport network in the absence of bridges if it is properly integrated into the existing network. Which Thames Clipper is not (at least make it cheaper!).
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