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Post by joefrombow on May 31, 2024 15:41:03 GMT
Wasn't the 241 supposed to be extended to Here East ages ago ?
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Post by enviroPB on May 31, 2024 16:12:36 GMT
Wasn't the 241 supposed to be extended to Here East ages ago ? After the Olympics I'm fairly sure. The roads weren't ready before 2013 so just like the 388, the 241 had to wait until after the Olympics to traverse HereEast. As others have touched upon, TfL probably deemed the 388 and the shuttle bus sufficient for demand, so paused on the ideas for the 241 at that time. Mind you, when the new MMCs for the route came in 2018 I'm fairly sure Stratford, Here East was on the blinds.
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Post by ADH45258 on May 31, 2024 16:14:29 GMT
Wasn't the 241 supposed to be extended to Here East ages ago ? After the Olympics I'm fairly sure. The roads weren't ready before 2013 so just like the 388, the 241 had to wait until after the Olympics to traverse HereEast. As others have touched upon, TfL probably deemed the 388 and the shuttle bus sufficient for demand, so paused on the ideas for the 241 at that time. Mind you, when the new MMCs for the route came in 2018 I'm fairly sure Stratford, Here East was on the blinds. The 241 was previously proposed to just follow the 388 all the way to Here East - it now seems to be going via the old 339 routeing part of the way
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Post by DE20106 on May 31, 2024 16:16:18 GMT
Sweeidioter should be Sweet water (written as one word) but for some reason ProBoards doesnt like it! It's just dawned on me - what letters does the word 'idiot' replace? t, w, a and t. 😂😂😂 maybe the person who came up with that road name knows someone who wanted to buy a property along that road, and they don’t like them very much and wanted to send a hidden message 🤣
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Post by Busboy105 on May 31, 2024 16:30:44 GMT
Where would you terminate it in Hackney? Not too sure just thought the route could have a bit more use. The revised Royal Wharf terminal has not been a success in my opinion with only single digit passengers after Custom House. I hope my reply doesn’t end up causing about 6 or 7 pages of crayon ideas like the 14/414 consultation thread. Interesting that the Royal Wharf hasn't worked out for the 241. Probably would've been a better idea sending the 330 there instead whilst keeping the 241 as it was
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Post by ! ALEED on May 31, 2024 16:32:13 GMT
Honestly I think this extension will be good and it would probably pick up more passengers along the way!
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Post by Green Kitten on May 31, 2024 16:45:47 GMT
Interested to see they’ve revived this proposal.
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Post by WH241 on May 31, 2024 16:51:35 GMT
Wasn't the 241 supposed to be extended to Here East ages ago ? Yes it was part of the original 2017 East London Crossrail / Elizabeth Line Proposal. The 241 was originally going to be cut back to Custom House station and extended to Here East / East Wick but was later revised on the South Newham proposal to run from Stratford City to Royal Wharf.
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Post by mark on May 31, 2024 16:54:36 GMT
Interesting they decided releasing this wouldn't violate Purdah rules but the 414 would. I’m not convinced that this consultation complied with the guidance as the need for change can hardly be described as pressing. I sense the hand of City Hall at work.
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Post by lundnah on May 31, 2024 17:02:04 GMT
Wasn't the 241 supposed to be extended to Here East ages ago ? Yes it was part of the original 2017 East London Crossrail / Elizabeth Line Proposal. The 241 was originally going to be cust back to Custom House station and extended to Here East / East Wick but was later revised on the South Newham proposal to run from Stratford City to Royal Wharf. An extension of the 241 from Stratford City to East Wick was first mentioned in a consultation in June 2013, but dependent on future development of the former Olympic Media Centre and on further housing and facilities being built around Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park.
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Post by wirewiper on May 31, 2024 17:03:58 GMT
Yes it was part of the original 2017 East London Crossrail / Elizabeth Line Proposal. The 241 was originally going to be cust back to Custom House station and extended to Here East / East Wick but was later revised on the South Newham proposal to run from Stratford City to Royal Wharf. An extension of the 241 from Stratford City to East Wick was first mentioned in a consultation in June 2013, but dependent on future development of the former Olympic Media Centre and on further housing and facilities being built around Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park. I expect Here East commissioning its own free shuttle bus also put the proposal back.
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Post by enviroPB on May 31, 2024 17:04:31 GMT
After the Olympics I'm fairly sure. The roads weren't ready before 2013 so just like the 388, the 241 had to wait until after the Olympics to traverse HereEast. As others have touched upon, TfL probably deemed the 388 and the shuttle bus sufficient for demand, so paused on the ideas for the 241 at that time. Mind you, when the new MMCs for the route came in 2018 I'm fairly sure Stratford, Here East was on the blinds. The 241 was previously proposed to just follow the 388 all the way to Here East - it now seems to be going via the old 339 routeing part of the way Indeed, but is now justified for an extension due to yet more housing and newly constructed roads in Stratford City that are unserved by buses. LLDC always had the ambition for the 241 to head to Here East. It's the only route serving Stratford City that properly traverses Newham, so the tick-box exercise of serving the community can be done I guess.
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Post by WH241 on May 31, 2024 17:52:18 GMT
Yes it was part of the original 2017 East London Crossrail / Elizabeth Line Proposal. The 241 was originally going to be cust back to Custom House station and extended to Here East / East Wick but was later revised on the South Newham proposal to run from Stratford City to Royal Wharf. An extension of the 241 from Stratford City to East Wick was first mentioned in a consultation in June 2013, but dependent on future development of the former Olympic Media Centre and on further housing and facilities being built around Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park. Was that a public consultation or just mentioned in a planning paper? I don’t recall seeing any formal consultation before 2017 but happy to be corrected.
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Post by lundnah on May 31, 2024 18:23:44 GMT
An extension of the 241 from Stratford City to East Wick was first mentioned in a consultation in June 2013, but dependent on future development of the former Olympic Media Centre and on further housing and facilities being built around Queen Elizabeth Olympic Park. Was that a public consultation or just mentioned in a planning paper? I don’t recall seeing any formal consultation before 2017 but happy to be corrected. A public consultation.
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Post by evergreenadam on May 31, 2024 19:22:37 GMT
Interesting they decided releasing this wouldn't violate Purdah rules but the 414 would. I suspect because it doesn’t involve removing bus routes, which is always controversial and would draw attention, they have agreed it can go ahead. Also Chelsea & Fulham and Cities of London & Westminster are currently regarded as being tight contests in the General Election whereas this part of East London is pretty much a foregone conclusion.
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