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Post by markyl on Jun 21, 2024 11:31:18 GMT
The Mayor stated on page 151 Alongside the initial work on Superloop 2, TfL will continue to improve the outer London bus network with new routes, extensions and re-routings, and increased frequencies, in key areas including Haringey Heartlands, Park Royal, Osterley, Tolworth, Southall and Havelock Estate, Wanstead and Whipps Cross Hospital, Kidbrooke Village, Orpington and Brent Cross. TfL will soon be consulting upon a new route between Golders Green and Stamford Hill. It will also be exploring new approaches to increase bus ridership, introducing new bus lanes and improving facilities such as shelters and customer information. TfL will also launch the final route of the first phase of Superloop, with the SL4 beginning when the Silvertown Tunnel opens in 2025, creating river crossings with the nearby Blackwall tunnel and providing a bus every three minutes Minutes Click HereAny ideas what he/TfL has in mind for Orpington
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 21, 2024 11:42:49 GMT
The Mayor stated on page 151 Alongside the initial work on Superloop 2, TfL will continue to improve the outer London bus network with new routes, extensions and re-routings, and increased frequencies, in key areas including Haringey Heartlands, Park Royal, Osterley, Tolworth, Southall and Havelock Estate, Wanstead and Whipps Cross Hospital, Kidbrooke Village, Orpington and Brent Cross. TfL will soon be consulting upon a new route between Golders Green and Stamford Hill. It will also be exploring new approaches to increase bus ridership, introducing new bus lanes and improving facilities such as shelters and customer information. TfL will also launch the final route of the first phase of Superloop, with the SL4 beginning when the Silvertown Tunnel opens in 2025, creating river crossings with the nearby Blackwall tunnel and providing a bus every three minutes Minutes Click HereAny ideas what he/TfL has in mind for Orpington I did see an article the other day and I did wonder if some of those have already been consulted on, Orpington being one.
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Post by evergreenadam on Jun 21, 2024 14:49:58 GMT
Usually those lists of areas can include the most minor of route changes - could just be the B14 changes that were consulted on.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 21, 2024 15:44:41 GMT
Usually those lists of areas can include the most minor of route changes - could just be the B14 changes that were consulted on. Of all the recent outer reviews the only genuine improvements would be the 316 extension and the 91 and 232 thou the Heartlands (but even that was cancelled out by the 123 cutback). The 495 would also be an improvement. The rest of the Brent Cross one and the Wembley Park one was largely switching routes from one road to another just like in Kidbrooke.
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Post by danorak on Jun 22, 2024 11:06:04 GMT
That'll just be the B14 rerouting: drafters of these documents try to make things sound far more impressive than they actually are.
Mention of 'a new route between Golders Green and Stamford Hill' would seem to answer the 310 question.
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Post by ucm131 on Jun 23, 2024 13:26:29 GMT
im interested in the tolworth one considering 281 just got the approval for an extension to tolworth station.
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 23, 2024 14:11:18 GMT
im interested in the tolworth one considering 281 just got the approval for an extension to tolworth station. That probably IS the Tolworth one!
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Post by Busboy105 on Jun 23, 2024 14:17:23 GMT
im interested in the tolworth one considering 281 just got the approval for an extension to tolworth station. It's happening in 2 weeks time
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Post by ucm131 on Jun 23, 2024 14:29:47 GMT
im interested in the tolworth one considering 281 just got the approval for an extension to tolworth station. That probably IS the Tolworth one! oh come on i was expecting more
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2024 14:36:27 GMT
im interested in the tolworth one considering 281 just got the approval for an extension to tolworth station. That is the Tolworth one - it just referencing consultations from different areas that have either already released in most cases. Looking at the list, a lot can be determined: Haringey Heartlands - changes to the 91, 123 & 232 Park Royal - ? Osterley - presumably the E1 at some point Tolworth - the 281 extension to Tolworth Station Southall and Havelock Estate - the 195 & 495 changes, presumably something to do with the E5 Wanstead and Whipps Cross Hospital - ? Kidbrooke Village - changes to the routings of the 178, 335 & B16 Orpington - changes to the B14 and withdrawal of the R6 (originally involved other R routes as well) Brent Cross - changes to a number of routes to serve Brent Cross West redevelopment A new route between Golders Green and Stamford Hill - probably the 310 that popped up in a tender update
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Post by ZiyQ on Jun 23, 2024 15:39:16 GMT
im interested in the tolworth one considering 281 just got the approval for an extension to tolworth station. That is the Tolworth one - it just referencing consultations from different areas that have either already released in most cases. Looking at the list, a lot can be determined: Wanstead and Whipps Cross Hospital - ? That one should be referring to the 549, W12, W13 and W14 proposals, though the name they gave seems to be slightly vague with the omission of some of the areas involved.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2024 16:49:50 GMT
That is the Tolworth one - it just referencing consultations from different areas that have either already released in most cases. Looking at the list, a lot can be determined: Wanstead and Whipps Cross Hospital - ? That one should be referring to the 549, W12, W13 and W14 proposals, though the name they gave seems to be slightly vague with the omission of some of the areas involved. I did think that but then I'd of thought that would of been referred to as Woodford rather than involving Whipps Cross Hospital but you could be right
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Post by ZiyQ on Jun 23, 2024 17:08:38 GMT
That one should be referring to the 549, W12, W13 and W14 proposals, though the name they gave seems to be slightly vague with the omission of some of the areas involved. I did think that but then I'd of thought that would of been referred to as Woodford rather than involving Whipps Cross Hospital but you could be right It could definitely be referring to something different, but I'm not sure about what else they would change in that area, and to me it did seem as if they were talking about the W14's new terminus and the buses (sort of) converging at Wanstead, though it all does seem slightly unusual.
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Post by aaron1 on Jun 24, 2024 17:38:01 GMT
I wounder what they have planned for Park Royal and Bren Cross these are my areas If there is a new route from there don't know where they go to main problem is no Space at Brent Cross for it to stand same for Central Middle Hospital IT Would have to start at Park Royal ASDA
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Post by VMH2537 on Jun 24, 2024 18:30:19 GMT
I wounder what they have planned for Park Royal and Bren Cross these are my areas If there is a new route from there don't know where they go to main problem is no Space at Brent Cross for it to stand same for Central Middle Hospital IT Would have to start at Park Royal ASDA The changes in Brent Cross are likely the ones already consulted, i.e extension of the 326, rerouting the 210, 102 etc.
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