Girl, 9, in life-threatening condition after crash

[capitalomnibus]

Girl, 9, in life-threatening condition after crash
A nine-year-old girl is in a life-threatening condition after a collision with a bus in south-east London.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c14747j249qo

[capitalomnibus]

Girl, 9, dies after being hit by bus
A nine-year-old girl who was hit by a bus in south-east London last weekend has died.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm2n46241gvo

Also another incident on the 99


Erith De Luci Fish Roundabout 99 bus crash: TfL statement
TfL has released a statement after a bus and a car were involved in a crash at a roundabout in Erith.
www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/24502975.erith-de-luci-fish-roundabout-99-bus-crash-tfl-statement/

Erith 99 bus crash at De Luci Fish Roundabout
A shocking picture shows a crash between a bus and a car today in Erith.
www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/24502061.erith-99-bus-crash-de-luci-fish-roundabout/

[capitalomnibus]

London bus driver who killed girl, 9, after falling asleep due to smoking cannabis jailed for four years
Martin Asolo-Ogugua, 23, mounted a pavement and hit Ada Bicakci in front of her family
www.standard.co.uk/news/london/bus-driver-killed-girl-bexleyheath-jailed-b1232042.html

[Busboy105]

Jun 9, 2025 22:55:03 GMT capitalomnibus said:

London bus driver who killed girl, 9, after falling asleep due to smoking cannabis jailed for four years
Martin Asolo-Ogugua, 23, mounted a pavement and hit Ada Bicakci in front of her family
www.standard.co.uk/news/london/bus-driver-killed-girl-bexleyheath-jailed-b1232042.html

Only 4 years?

[TB123]

Jun 10, 2025 6:54:39 GMT Busboy105 said:

Jun 9, 2025 22:55:03 GMT capitalomnibus said:

London bus driver who killed girl, 9, after falling asleep due to smoking cannabis jailed for four years
Martin Asolo-Ogugua, 23, mounted a pavement and hit Ada Bicakci in front of her family
www.standard.co.uk/news/london/bus-driver-killed-girl-bexleyheath-jailed-b1232042.html

Only 4 years?

The last government battered the prison system and left behind very soft sentencing guidelines. Unforgivable and it takes time to change - and boy does it need changing. I’m glad this guy is locked up, but it is too short a sentence. The fact he’ll also be able to drive once leaving jail 7 years down the line is preposterous, these types of crimes should come with lifetime driving bans. It’s a privilege not a right to drive on the roads, imo.

Most importantly, sending my thoughts to Ada’s family and friends. Can’t begin to imagine what they’ve gone through

[capitalomnibus]

Jun 10, 2025 6:54:39 GMT Busboy105 said:

Jun 9, 2025 22:55:03 GMT capitalomnibus said:

London bus driver who killed girl, 9, after falling asleep due to smoking cannabis jailed for four years
Martin Asolo-Ogugua, 23, mounted a pavement and hit Ada Bicakci in front of her family
www.standard.co.uk/news/london/bus-driver-killed-girl-bexleyheath-jailed-b1232042.html

Only 4 years?

Maybe down to corrupt lawyers knowing how to play the system. The way things are in this country, he probably would only serve 18 months.
Should have got 400 years imo

[capitalomnibus]

Jun 10, 2025 7:08:31 GMT TB123 said:

Jun 10, 2025 6:54:39 GMT Busboy105 said:

Only 4 years?

The last government battered the prison system and left behind very soft sentencing guidelines. Unforgivable and it takes time to change - and boy does it need changing. I’m glad this guy is locked up, but it is too short a sentence. The fact he’ll also be able to drive once leaving jail 7 years down the line is preposterous, these types of crimes should come with lifetime driving bans. It’s a privilege not a right to drive on the roads, imo.

Most importantly, sending my thoughts to Ada’s family and friends. Can’t begin to imagine what they’ve gone through

You having a laugh? Labour made the prison system a joke under Blair, that is where it all went wrong. All the do gooders moaned, we had many of the light sentencing then which has not changed much over the years. There were too much things that people got let off for, the only thing this country really punished people for is high monetary crimes, lives has no value when it comes to prison sentencing. You could steal £5 million and would be sentenced for 30 years. Kill someone, you would get 5-10 years.

Also note the guy had smoked weed the night before, the very same drug that Khan wants the government to turn a blind eye to.

[Eastlondoner62]

Jun 10, 2025 9:30:38 GMT capitalomnibus said:

Jun 10, 2025 7:08:31 GMT TB123 said:

The last government battered the prison system and left behind very soft sentencing guidelines. Unforgivable and it takes time to change - and boy does it need changing. I’m glad this guy is locked up, but it is too short a sentence. The fact he’ll also be able to drive once leaving jail 7 years down the line is preposterous, these types of crimes should come with lifetime driving bans. It’s a privilege not a right to drive on the roads, imo.

Most importantly, sending my thoughts to Ada’s family and friends. Can’t begin to imagine what they’ve gone through

You having a laugh? Labour made the prison system a joke under Blair, that is where it all went wrong. All the do gooders moaned, we had many of the light sentencing then which has not changed much over the years. There were too much things that people got let off for, the only thing this country really punished people for is high monetary crimes, lives has no value when it comes to prison sentencing. You could steal £5 million and would be sentenced for 30 years. Kill someone, you would get 5-10 years.

Also note the guy had smoked weed the night before, the very same drug that Khan wants the government to turn a blind eye to.

Weed is not the problem here, it is the fact someone still turned up to work high. That would be a problem if the individual was drunk and had not sobered up.

[capitalomnibus]

Jun 10, 2025 9:48:19 GMT Eastlondoner62 said:

Jun 10, 2025 9:30:38 GMT capitalomnibus said:

You having a laugh? Labour made the prison system a joke under Blair, that is where it all went wrong. All the do gooders moaned, we had many of the light sentencing then which has not changed much over the years. There were too much things that people got let off for, the only thing this country really punished people for is high monetary crimes, lives has no value when it comes to prison sentencing. You could steal £5 million and would be sentenced for 30 years. Kill someone, you would get 5-10 years.

Also note the guy had smoked weed the night before, the very same drug that Khan wants the government to turn a blind eye to.

Weed is not the problem here, it is the fact someone still turned up to work high. That would be a problem if the individual was drunk and had not sobered up.

It is a problem when you have people like Khan making it to be friendly as he represents TfL. Society sees it as nothing wrong and it is ok, but this is an exhibit A of the reasons why Cannabis is a lot more dangerous than people think it is.

[Eastlondoner62]

Jun 11, 2025 8:39:59 GMT capitalomnibus said:

Jun 10, 2025 9:48:19 GMT Eastlondoner62 said:

Weed is not the problem here, it is the fact someone still turned up to work high. That would be a problem if the individual was drunk and had not sobered up.

It is a problem when you have people like Khan making it to be friendly as he represents TfL. Society sees it as nothing wrong and it is ok, but this is an exhibit A of the reasons why Cannabis is a lot more dangerous than people think it is.

So surely by the same logic, drivers shouldn't be allowed to drink alcohol at all seeing as tbe dangers of both are near enough identical.

[capitalomnibus]

Jun 11, 2025 10:16:12 GMT Eastlondoner62 said:

Jun 11, 2025 8:39:59 GMT capitalomnibus said:

It is a problem when you have people like Khan making it to be friendly as he represents TfL. Society sees it as nothing wrong and it is ok, but this is an exhibit A of the reasons why Cannabis is a lot more dangerous than people think it is.

So surely by the same logic, drivers shouldn't be allowed to drink alcohol at all seeing as tbe dangers of both are near enough identical.

i agree, but it makes me laugh you know when a cannabis user is trying to prove their point they always bring up alcohol or tobacco to normalise it.

The main cause was the driver fell asleep after a blunt. A driver may have had one pint the day before and next day not fall asleep and be intoxicated because of drinking alcohol.

[intro]

Jun 11, 2025 10:20:43 GMT capitalomnibus said:

Jun 11, 2025 10:16:12 GMT Eastlondoner62 said:

So surely by the same logic, drivers shouldn't be allowed to drink alcohol at all seeing as tbe dangers of both are near enough identical.

i agree, but it makes me laugh you know when a cannabis user is trying to prove their point they always bring up alcohol or tobacco to normalise it.

The main cause was the driver fell asleep after a blunt. A driver may have had one pint the day before and next day not fall asleep and be intoxicated because of drinking alcohol.

Cannabis is just as 'normal' as the other two drugs you list, all three are very harmful.

[southlondonbus]

Jun 10, 2025 7:08:31 GMT TB123 said:

Jun 10, 2025 6:54:39 GMT Busboy105 said:

Only 4 years?

The last government battered the prison system and left behind very soft sentencing guidelines. Unforgivable and it takes time to change - and boy does it need changing. I’m glad this guy is locked up, but it is too short a sentence. The fact he’ll also be able to drive once leaving jail 7 years down the line is preposterous, these types of crimes should come with lifetime driving bans. It’s a privilege not a right to drive on the roads, imo.

Most importantly, sending my thoughts to Ada’s family and friends. Can’t begin to imagine what they’ve gone through

They would have found a prison place if need be for a longer term. That's the weakest excuse going.

[TB123]

Ada Bicacki Bexleyheath bus crash: Prison sentence increased

www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/25370172.ada-bicacki-bexleyheath-bus-crash-prison-sentence-increased/

The bus driver who killed nine-year-old Ada Bicakci after he fell asleep at the wheel following a night of partying has had his "unduly lenient" prison sentence increased.



Martin Asolo-Agogua had not been to sleep after a night of partying when he turned up to his 8am shift on August 3 last year.



He was seen yawning and nodding off before his bus swerved onto the pavement on Watling Street, killing Ada and narrowly missing her five-year-old brother.



The 24-year-old was found to have almost three times the legal level of cannabis in his system after the collision.

Asolo-Agugua was jailed for four years in June after admitting causing her death by dangerous driving and driving while unfit through drugs.



The Solicitor General referred his sentence to the Court of Appeal, arguing at a hearing on Wednesday that it was “unduly lenient” and should be increased.



Three senior judges ruled the sentence should be raised to six years and eight months, and that Asolo-Agugua should be disqualified from driving for five years upon his release.



Lord Justice Dingemans, sitting with Mr Justice Hilliard and Sir Robin Spencer, said that Asolo-Agugua had “acknowledged that he had destroyed his victim’s family, and his own”, but had “disregarded the risk of danger to others for the period that he was driving”.



He said: “He must have appreciated that he was in no fit state to drive, but continued to drive.”



Peter Ratliff, appearing for the Solicitor General, told the court that Asolo-Agugua worked as a bus driver for Arriva and arrived for work on the morning of August 3, having only returned home from a social event at around 6.30am.



He left a depot in Dartford at around 8.45am in a double-decker bus, with CCTV from the cab showing Asolo-Agugua “yawning repeatedly, appearing drowsy, his eyes appeared to close on occasion, and other road users noted his vehicle was being driven erratically” over around 13 minutes, Mr Ratliff said.



Asolo-Agugua then appeared to fall asleep for “up to 15 seconds”, with the bus drifting across the road and colliding with Ada in Watling Street, Bexleyheath.



After being arrested at the scene, he admitted the two offences in April this year and was jailed at Woolwich Crown Court.



Mr Ratliff continued that Asolo-Agugua’s sentence should be increased as there was “a lack of attention to driving for a substantial period of time” and driving “when deprived of adequate sleep”.



He said: “He must have appreciated from the outset, if he had not already, that he was in no fit state to drive and what he was doing was therefore inherently dangerous.”



The barrister acknowledged that Asolo-Agugua “made efforts to seek assistance for the victim” at the time of the collision and had subsequently “demonstrated clear remorse”.



Asolo-Agugua watched proceedings via a video link from HMP Isis in south London, with his mother in attendance at court.



Gregory Fishwick, representing him, said the case was a “tragedy”, and that while the sentence “might be classified as lenient”, it was “not unduly so”.



He said: “He will never forget this. It was a tragedy, one that he will feel forever.”



On Sunday Ada's father and mother, Bora and Nevgül Bicakci, revisited the crash site one year on.

Nevgül said: “We will keep fighting for Ada. Please fight with us.

“Because if you are not with us, we are not strong. We need your support. We need your help.



“We want road safety for everybody. We don't want anyone to suffer like we do.



“Thank you for being here, all of you. It means a lot to us.



“Ada is watching. And she is happy. Thank you.”



Father, Bora, pledged: “No driver will fall asleep on the wheel ever again.”



Ada’s parents have promised to fight for greater road safety following their daughter’s death appealed for the death of their daughter Ada to bring greater safety for pedestrians.



The family has set up a campaign called Ada's Heartbeart to "amplify the message about road safety [and] shine a light on this important issue”.

[mrhk]

Electric chair now.