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Post by londonbuses on May 27, 2025 11:22:06 GMT
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Post by TB123 on May 27, 2025 11:28:28 GMT
Cheap way of keeping the 16th bus on the schedule |
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Post by WH241 on May 27, 2025 11:31:12 GMT
Much rather the bus used on the 173 instead of the very expensive cost per mile of school routes.
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The 673 needs one bus to operate the afternoon service - this bus will be re-allocated to route 173’s schedule to improve reliability
This change will allow us to better use our limited resources
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 27, 2025 12:13:01 GMT
Pretty bog standard, ever since the 173 went decker in 2015 there has been no need for the route. I think everyone is all for the extra bus on the 173.
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Post by randomy on May 27, 2025 13:44:52 GMT
Welp, here we go again
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Post by JUNIOR26 on May 27, 2025 15:06:35 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if the 687's next up in line for withdrawal.
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Post by lonmark on May 27, 2025 20:32:33 GMT
It could be next is.... 672
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Post by southlondon413 on May 27, 2025 20:47:07 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if the 687's next up in line for withdrawal. I think any school route that could be easily replaced by a cheaper regular bus service will be on the chopping block over the next few years. |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 27, 2025 20:55:07 GMT
Wouldn't surprise me if the 687's next up in line for withdrawal. I think any school route that could be easily replaced by a cheaper regular bus service will be on the chopping block over the next few years. As I've said before alot of school routes began in the days when more day routes used SDs and before free travel for kids when providing cross town links were more important. Is there a massive need for the 613 from Glenthrone when the 80 is DD every 8 mins as opposed to every 12 mins with SDs 10 years ago. To me the resource would be better on an extra bph on the 213 during the peaks and shopping hours. |
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Post by southlondon413 on May 27, 2025 21:04:13 GMT
I think any school route that could be easily replaced by a cheaper regular bus service will be on the chopping block over the next few years. As I've said before alot of school routes began in the days when more day routes used SDs and before free travel for kids when providing cross town links were more important. Is there a massive need for the 613 from Glenthrone when the 80 is DD every 8 mins as opposed to every 12 mins with SDs 10 years ago. To me the resource would be better on an extra bph on the 213 during the peaks and shopping hours. The 613 is actually one of the school routes I’d expect to stay given it provides a unique link from Tolworth to Worcester Park and Cheam where there are quite a lot of large high schools with wide reaching catchments. It is not out the question for a girl living in Tolworth to be accepted to Nonsuch Girls, a boy from Tolworth may go to Coombe Boys, the list goes on. An extra 213 wouldn’t solve that unique loss. |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 27, 2025 21:10:48 GMT
As I've said before alot of school routes began in the days when more day routes used SDs and before free travel for kids when providing cross town links were more important. Is there a massive need for the 613 from Glenthrone when the 80 is DD every 8 mins as opposed to every 12 mins with SDs 10 years ago. To me the resource would be better on an extra bph on the 213 during the peaks and shopping hours. The 613 is actually one of the school routes I’d expect to stay given it provides a unique link from Tolworth to Worcester Park and Cheam where there are quite a lot of large high schools with wide reaching catchments. It is not out the question for a girl living in Tolworth to be accepted to Nonsuch Girls, a boy from Tolworth may go to Coombe Boys, the list goes on. An extra 213 wouldn’t solve that unique loss. They could extend one of the 627s to Malden Manor in its place. |
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Post by southlondon413 on May 27, 2025 21:16:05 GMT
The 613 is actually one of the school routes I’d expect to stay given it provides a unique link from Tolworth to Worcester Park and Cheam where there are quite a lot of large high schools with wide reaching catchments. It is not out the question for a girl living in Tolworth to be accepted to Nonsuch Girls, a boy from Tolworth may go to Coombe Boys, the list goes on. An extra 213 wouldn’t solve that unique loss. They could extend one of the 627s to Malden Manor in its place. The 613 doesn’t go to Malden Manor so I’m not sure how that would help? The roundabout is pretty awful and I don’t think double deckers would be suitable for it as there are often cars parked against it. If one of the 627s was extended it would have to convert to small single deckers to be useful and that is a lot of lost capacity. |
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Post by PGAT on May 27, 2025 21:27:49 GMT
They could extend one of the 627s to Malden Manor in its place. The 613 doesn’t go to Malden Manor so I’m not sure how that would help? The roundabout is pretty awful and I don’t think double deckers would be suitable for it as there are often cars parked against it. If one of the 627s was extended it would have to convert to small single deckers to be useful and that is a lot of lost capacity. I think he meant extend it to Tolworth via the current 613? But this doesn't account for the lost capacity between Sutton and New Malden which is desperately needed. While 80 has had massive uplifts on the Glenthorne end, the 213 has seen hefty cuts including a school extra. |
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Post by southlondon413 on May 27, 2025 21:31:20 GMT
The 613 doesn’t go to Malden Manor so I’m not sure how that would help? The roundabout is pretty awful and I don’t think double deckers would be suitable for it as there are often cars parked against it. If one of the 627s was extended it would have to convert to small single deckers to be useful and that is a lot of lost capacity. I think he meant extend it to Tolworth via the current 613? But this doesn't account for the lost capacity between Sutton and New Malden which is desperately needed Yeah, but the 613 doesn’t go through Malden Manor. It uses the A3 to get to Tolworth. I actually think with the increase on SL7 and traffic improvements in Worcester Park since Covid the current frequency of the 213 is pretty much spot on. There are considerably less turns than pre-Covid and the lower frequency means buses tend to get a lot further than 5 years ago. It’s actually more common to see a Kingston Hospital turn than it is Coombe Road nowadays. |
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Post by southlondonbus on May 27, 2025 21:35:45 GMT
They could extend one of the 627s to Malden Manor in its place. The 613 doesn’t go to Malden Manor so I’m not sure how that would help? The roundabout is pretty awful and I don’t think double deckers would be suitable for it as there are often cars parked against it. If one of the 627s was extended it would have to convert to small single deckers to be useful and that is a lot of lost capacity. Sorry i meant Tolworth. I was thinking of the S3. |
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