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Post by Pilot on Feb 11, 2021 12:01:10 GMT
Try to put them to sleep and you'll be ok, but in general you have to be really bad for them to fail you, they are kind of even more desperate now with the corona due to many furloughs so your chances are good.
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Post by deppy42 on Feb 11, 2021 12:36:24 GMT
Good morning all. I am going to have a driving assessment with go ahead on saturday. Can any of you tell me what to expect during the day? Is it like a driving test, where it has to be near perfect and can anyone give me some tips of how to do well? Many thanks Are you a new driver or an existing PCV licence holder? Mirror signal maneuver, every time. Plan ahead, take your time, don't rush into situations.
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Post by deppy42 on Feb 11, 2021 12:41:14 GMT
Try to put them to sleep and you'll be ok, but in general you have to be really bad for them to fail you, they are kind of even more desperate now with the corona due to many furloughs so your chances are good. I don't think so, the failure rate is quite high. Needing drivers is not a factor to the assessor doing the prelim drive. You can quickly tell who to fail (sometime before you have even left the garage!). It's the same for the PCV driving test, I know that I could mostly tell within the first few minutes how the rest of the test would pan out.
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Post by M1104 on Feb 11, 2021 13:28:04 GMT
Are you a new driver or an existing PCV licence holder? New driver When i did it as a new driver, many moons back, it was essentially a ten minute drive to the next town¹ and back in an automatic minibus . The instructor then tells you how you've done and as long as you're not a total disaster on the road any bad habits you may have (steering handling, insufficient mirror checks, too harsh on the pedals, etc) will be noted for when it's time to put you in a trainer bus. Ideally drive as if you're taking a mock driving test and try not to be nervous and you should be ok. If you are presently driving a car iron out any bad habit you 'may' have. ¹ - in my case Mitcham to Colliers Wood and back
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Post by Catford94 on Feb 12, 2021 12:36:37 GMT
Good morning all. I am going to have a driving assessment with go ahead on saturday. Can any of you tell me what to expect during the day? Is it like a driving test, where it has to be near perfect and can anyone give me some tips of how to do well? Many thanks
Depends what sort of vehicle is used for this sort of thing now - at one point in time they would do the assessment with a bus, but presume that now requires you to have the provisional PCV licence first so it may be a van / MPV sized vehicle (I'm a bit out of touch with that end of things - someone else may be better placed to answer this.)
One difference between driving a car and a bus is that most car drivers occasionally glance at the interior mounted mirror and rarely look at the wing / door mirrors except maybe when reversing in to a tight space. With a bus, the interior mirror is only there to see what's going on inside the bus, and a PCV driver will regularly check both nearside and offside mirrors. May be worth practising before the assessment if you drive a car.
The other thing to be thinking about is what line to take round a corner if it's a larger vehicle than you're used to - you don't want the rear wheels to bump over the kerb on a tight left turn, especially if there's railings / bollards / pedestrians there!
(Apologies if the above is stating the obvious if you're already used to driving medium / large sized vehicles)
Hope all goes well
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 20:42:08 GMT
What will happen to the Hybrids especially newer ones on the 25 & 425 + 202 & 405 etc once the entire TFL fleet goes fully Electric in 2030?
I know it's a long way off but imo it's not worth withdrawing vehicles before they get old enough.
Other cities across the country such as Coventry and Oxford are also going fully Electric, I read elsewhere.
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Post by enviroPB on Feb 12, 2021 21:11:24 GMT
What will happen to the Hybrids especially newer ones on the 25 & 425 + 202 & 405 etc once the entire TFL fleet goes fully Electric in 2030? I know it's a long way off but imo it's not worth withdrawing vehicles before they get old enough. Other cities across the country such as Coventry and Oxford are also going fully Electric, I read elsewhere. I know Stagecoach has its policy for a while now to only use leased buses in London. So should they see in two contract terms with no extensions, the smart hybrids on the 25 & 425 can leave in 2030 with no real commotion. I'm not sure about Arriva's hybrids (still gobsmacked they got E40H MMCs tbh) but chances are they're leased as well. That last tidbit is an assumption and not fact, so I await in angst to be potentially corrected by other members.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 22:09:26 GMT
What will happen to the Hybrids especially newer ones on the 25 & 425 + 202 & 405 etc once the entire TFL fleet goes fully Electric in 2030? I know it's a long way off but imo it's not worth withdrawing vehicles before they get old enough. Other cities across the country such as Coventry and Oxford are also going fully Electric, I read elsewhere. The simple answer is no one knows what is going to happen in 9 years time! Stagecoach can easily cascade buses to outside London.
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Post by snowman on Feb 12, 2021 22:19:35 GMT
What will happen to the Hybrids especially newer ones on the 25 & 425 + 202 & 405 etc once the entire TFL fleet goes fully Electric in 2030? I know it's a long way off but imo it's not worth withdrawing vehicles before they get old enough. Other cities across the country such as Coventry and Oxford are also going fully Electric, I read elsewhere. The 2030 date is still a proposal (various dates between 2030 and 2037 have appeared in various documents over time), but if TfL finally decide on earlier date, probably get redeployed to another City. Not much different to what happened in 2006 (end of high floor buses in London), even though some were only 8-9 years old they had to leave London service and go elsewhere
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2021 22:21:57 GMT
What will happen to the Hybrids especially newer ones on the 25 & 425 + 202 & 405 etc once the entire TFL fleet goes fully Electric in 2030? I know it's a long way off but imo it's not worth withdrawing vehicles before they get old enough. Other cities across the country such as Coventry and Oxford are also going fully Electric, I read elsewhere. The 2030 date is still a proposal (various dates between 2030 and 2037 have appeared in various documents over time), but if TfL finally decide on earlier date, probably get redeployed to another City. Not much different to what happened in 2006 (end of high floor buses in London), even though some were only 8-9 years old they had to leave London service and go elsewhere Coventry is going 100% Electric by 2025 read from an article. Interesting times ahead indeed. It's good that routes are still continuing to be awarded with Hybrids/Diesels
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2021 0:03:02 GMT
The 2030 date is still a proposal (various dates between 2030 and 2037 have appeared in various documents over time), but if TfL finally decide on earlier date, probably get redeployed to another City. Not much different to what happened in 2006 (end of high floor buses in London), even though some were only 8-9 years old they had to leave London service and go elsewhere Coventry is going 100% Electric by 2025 read from an article. Interesting times ahead indeed. It's good that routes are still continuing to be awarded with Hybrids/Diesels Still surprised me that Coventry is going all electric. The town centre is an absolute dump, they’ve tried to smarten it up over the last five years but honestly it’s like lipstick on a pig. I’ve had to go to Coventry for work a few times, not by choice, and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
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Post by Busboy105 on Feb 13, 2021 11:34:27 GMT
Coventry is going 100% Electric by 2025 read from an article. Interesting times ahead indeed. It's good that routes are still continuing to be awarded with Hybrids/Diesels Still surprised me that Coventry is going all electric. The town centre is an absolute dump, they’ve tried to smarten it up over the last five years but honestly it’s like lipstick on a pig. I’ve had to go to Coventry for work a few times, not by choice, and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. As a former Birmingham resident, I totally agree 😂😂😂. I believe it was picked because it’s a small city and it was recently made a City of Culture or something like that.
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 13, 2021 12:05:44 GMT
Still surprised me that Coventry is going all electric. The town centre is an absolute dump, they’ve tried to smarten it up over the last five years but honestly it’s like lipstick on a pig. I’ve had to go to Coventry for work a few times, not by choice, and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy. As a former Birmingham resident, I totally agree 😂😂😂. I believe it was picked because it’s a small city and it was recently made a City of Culture or something like that. It's also because Transport for West Midlands, the West Midlands Mayor and National Express West Midlands made a credible submission for the all-electric town bus funding and were asked to develop their business case further. Oxford was also invited to submit a further business case.
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Post by Busboy105 on Feb 13, 2021 12:50:27 GMT
As a former Birmingham resident, I totally agree 😂😂😂. I believe it was picked because it’s a small city and it was recently made a City of Culture or something like that. It's also because Transport for West Midlands, the West Midlands Mayor and National Express West Midlands made a credible submission for the all-electric town bus funding and were asked to develop their business case further. Oxford was also invited to submit a further business case. Coventry City Council didn’t have a say in this?
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Post by wirewiper on Feb 13, 2021 15:44:06 GMT
It's also because Transport for West Midlands, the West Midlands Mayor and National Express West Midlands made a credible submission for the all-electric town bus funding and were asked to develop their business case further. Oxford was also invited to submit a further business case. Coventry City Council didn’t have a say in this? My apologies, my original post is misleading (I really should do my research first!). The successful bid was secured by Coventry City Council, Warwickshire County Council and Transport for West Midlands (TfWM), which is part of the West Midlands Combined Authority (WMCA). National Express West Midlands is involved through its close partnership with TfWM and Coventry City Council, and the operator had already declared last year that it will buy no more diesel buses. Here's more about the scheme, on which work will commence in April with the aim of fully-electric operation by Winter 2025. www.coventry.gov.uk/news/article/3703/all-electric_bus_city_plan_commitment_by_winter_2025
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