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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Jul 18, 2022 9:27:51 GMT
What was the 1st few routes to receive Hybrid buses around 2008-09 IIRC? Did TFL advertise on them similar to what they now do with full Electric buses? Did if any major faults occur with Hybrid buses as new technologies can develop? Also I read that it was planned that from 2012 onwards only Hybrid buses would be ordered new into service but it was dropped later. The 360 was the first route to receive hybrids in 2005-06 with a small batch of Wright Electrocitys. After that, the 141 saw HEV1 trialled in 2007, a Versa was trialled by Go-Ahead London and the 129 received Wright Electrocitys under Travel London before the hybrid trial about a year and half later where several different vehicles were ordered: ADH1-2 for Transdev for 482 EH1-5 for Go-Ahead London for 24 HDE1-5 for Transdev for 371 (originally supposed to be for East Thames Buses for 42) HV1-6 for Arriva London for 76 or 141 HW1-5 for Arriva London for 76 or 141 OTH971-975 for Metroline for E2 or E8 TEH915-919 for Metroline for 16 WHD1 for Go-Ahead London for 24 WNH39001-39005 for First London for 328 29001-29005 for ELBG for 276 Pretty sure the OTHs were for the E8 as E2 was double deck. Forgot about them.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 18, 2022 9:38:42 GMT
What was the 1st few routes to receive Hybrid buses around 2008-09 IIRC? Did TFL advertise on them similar to what they now do with full Electric buses? Did if any major faults occur with Hybrid buses as new technologies can develop? Also I read that it was planned that from 2012 onwards only Hybrid buses would be ordered new into service but it was dropped later. It was really from the summer 2013 tender awards of the 54/75/part 262 that it would appear that a change had happened and all new DDs would be hybrid followed by a confirmation of the 96/122/472 being for hybrids following its TBC award. A part allocation on the 418, the 217 with Sullivans and the 62, part 145 and 294 being the last Diesel.
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Post by YY13VKP on Jul 18, 2022 9:57:58 GMT
The 360 was the first route to receive hybrids in 2005-06 with a small batch of Wright Electrocitys. After that, the 141 saw HEV1 trialled in 2007, a Versa was trialled by Go-Ahead London and the 129 received Wright Electrocitys under Travel London before the hybrid trial about a year and half later where several different vehicles were ordered: ADH1-2 for Transdev for 482 EH1-5 for Go-Ahead London for 24 HDE1-5 for Transdev for 371 (originally supposed to be for East Thames Buses for 42) HV1-6 for Arriva London for 76 or 141 HW1-5 for Arriva London for 76 or 141 OTH971-975 for Metroline for E2 or E8 TEH915-919 for Metroline for 16 WHD1 for Go-Ahead London for 24 WNH39001-39005 for First London for 328 29001-29005 for ELBG for 276 Pretty sure the OTHs were for the E8 as E2 was double deck. Forgot about them. They were, they weren’t around for very long from memory
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Post by vjaska on Jul 18, 2022 11:18:49 GMT
The 360 was the first route to receive hybrids in 2005-06 with a small batch of Wright Electrocitys. After that, the 141 saw HEV1 trialled in 2007, a Versa was trialled by Go-Ahead London and the 129 received Wright Electrocitys under Travel London before the hybrid trial about a year and half later where several different vehicles were ordered: ADH1-2 for Transdev for 482 EH1-5 for Go-Ahead London for 24 HDE1-5 for Transdev for 371 (originally supposed to be for East Thames Buses for 42) HV1-6 for Arriva London for 76 or 141 HW1-5 for Arriva London for 76 or 141 OTH971-975 for Metroline for E2 or E8 TEH915-919 for Metroline for 16 WHD1 for Go-Ahead London for 24 WNH39001-39005 for First London for 328 29001-29005 for ELBG for 276 Pretty sure the OTHs were for the E8 as E2 was double deck. Forgot about them. That would make sense thinking about it now
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Post by Alexis on Jul 23, 2022 15:21:00 GMT
Why does the 328 have a separate stand for nighttime at Chelsea?
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jul 23, 2022 15:51:49 GMT
Why does the 328 have a separate stand for nighttime at Chelsea? Might be to do with residents? The 94 has a similar arrangement at Acton Green.
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Post by M1104 on Jul 23, 2022 19:02:30 GMT
Why does the 328 have a separate stand for nighttime at Chelsea? Might be to do with residents? The 94 has a similar arrangement at Acton Green. Similarly with the 11 at West Brompton during such relevant times (light runnings between there and Fulham Broadway)
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 23, 2022 19:43:58 GMT
Why does the 328 have a separate stand for nighttime at Chelsea? Might be to do with residents? The 94 has a similar arrangement at Acton Green. I guess if the 27/328/C3 changes go ahead then it would remove the standing issues at certain times of day. I didn't know the 94 had alternate arrangements?
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Post by COBO on Jul 23, 2022 21:52:50 GMT
Why does the 328 have a separate stand for nighttime at Chelsea? Might be to do with residents? The 94 has a similar arrangement at Acton Green. Where does the 94 stand at night?
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Post by LondonNorthern on Jul 23, 2022 22:15:30 GMT
Might be to do with residents? The 94 has a similar arrangement at Acton Green. Where does the 94 stand at night? Acton Green (Stop V) which clearly says: ‘Buses on Route 94 only stand here 01:30 - 06:30’
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Post by COBO on Jul 23, 2022 22:20:30 GMT
Where does the 94 stand at night? Acton Green (Stop V) which clearly says: ‘Buses on Route 94 only stand here 01:30 - 06:30’ How odd but they are still in vicinity of the residents if they stand there.
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Post by snowman on Jul 24, 2022 11:23:58 GMT
Just a general question from me, when did the last Volvo Olympian run in London, and which was it? From memory it was early 2006 in TfL service (low floor buses were 100% from March 2006, except a few finishing school contracts which continued until July) London United kept a batch in its commercial fleet (and were also used for training), although the numbers fell towards the end, I think some survived until 2017 or 2018 Other Operators had them as well, but no idea which one was last to be used
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Post by vjaska on Jul 24, 2022 11:26:46 GMT
Just a general question from me, when did the last Volvo Olympian run in London, and which was it? Going to guess here but the last Volvo Olympian run on a regular service in London was on the non TfL 420 which runs between Redhill & Sutton. Some National Rail services also saw Volvo Olympians right to the DDA cut off point IIRC TfL wise, it would be on rail replacement (Ensignbus used Volvo Olympians post 2010) or if only counting standard routes, the former mobility route that ran in Wimbledon saw a one off working in 2007 of a NV class Volvo Olympian to cover a duty as no Dart was available - 100% low floor came in end of 2005 so by then, all others were relegated to trainers or commercial work
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Post by lonmark on Jul 26, 2022 11:38:25 GMT
I got the question to ask:
Where can I found the passenger users for London bus routes years by years?
Which one is most increase and most decease?
I can't found any information on here bus forum.
Please can you help me to find it.
Thank you
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Post by COBO on Jul 28, 2022 21:19:49 GMT
Question why are the W prefix bus routes all over the place Walthamstow, Enfield and Harringay?
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