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Post by gwiwer on Aug 18, 2024 22:19:21 GMT
If a TFL inspector boards a bus and finds out that a passenger hasn't paid for their fare, does the driver also get a sanction / fine / warning for letting them on for free? No. In addition the MDT has a Fare Evasion button that makes TFL aware of where the Fare Evasion occurs. As the threat level to staff - actual or perceived - has risen over the years so the need to act in their best interests has also risen. Where once the conductor (or driver of a driver-only vehicle) could be reported and sanctioned for "allowing" fare evasion whether they actually sanctioned it or not these days it is safety of staff first. Comms now allows the transmission of messages if fare evasion is detected but generally a passenger is simply allowed on with a shrug of the driver's shoulders. Quite often they have "forgotten their pass" and might well be entitled to free travel anyway were they carrying it. The days are long gone where the conductor was responsible for extracting every penny of revenue due. They were expected to remember every passenger and what value of ticket they had been issued, therefore also where they were allowed to travel to and not beyond. Some conductors were better than others; some trips were busier than others. It was unrealistic to expect every last penny to ever be taken. There were disputes too of course. I was on a 25 in mid-afternoon when someone downstairs started arguing over the fare being asked. Next thing I knew there were four bells rung and the conductor hopped off trying to give chase to the passenger. Four bells normally meant "boot it to the nick and pull up outside" but the driver had clearly made good use of his mirrors (and probably had been aware of the fracas anyway) and stopped. The conductor stopped too. Collapsed on the pavement in Forest Gate with a stab wound to his abdomen. Realising we weren't going any further I also hopped off in time to hear the driver's Code Red call. I hung on until the police and ambulance arrived having been witness to the offender's identity. He had been asked to pay 25p but insisted the fare was 22p. One conductor stabbed for just 3p. And the almost obligatory stop-work by route 25 crews the next day in support. I don't think the offender was ever caught.
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Post by LK65EBO on Aug 19, 2024 20:25:26 GMT
If a TFL inspector boards a bus and finds out that a passenger hasn't paid for their fare, does the driver also get a sanction / fine / warning for letting them on for free? Once upon a time a driver would be reported for it and possibly have to answer for it to the garage manager but it doesn’t happen now. Generally, if fare dodgers are on then the driver will inform the RPI when they board and tell them they’ve used the ‘Fare Evasion’ text message on the iBus MDT. I don’t know about any other company but we’re told not to challenge fare dodgers and simply report them via the text message Was meant to ask this yesterday, but what's the RPI?
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Post by yunus on Aug 19, 2024 20:27:06 GMT
Which of the E prefix Ealing area routes are converting to EVs? I have lost track!
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Post by LK65EBO on Aug 19, 2024 20:28:59 GMT
Which of the E prefix Ealing area routes are converting to EVs? I have lost track! E2, E5, E6, E7 and E8.
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Post by greenboy on Aug 19, 2024 20:29:30 GMT
Once upon a time a driver would be reported for it and possibly have to answer for it to the garage manager but it doesn’t happen now. Generally, if fare dodgers are on then the driver will inform the RPI when they board and tell them they’ve used the ‘Fare Evasion’ text message on the iBus MDT. I don’t know about any other company but we’re told not to challenge fare dodgers and simply report them via the text message Was meant to ask this yesterday, but what's the RPI? Revenue Protection Inspector.
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Post by VWH1413 on Aug 19, 2024 21:41:30 GMT
Which of the E prefix Ealing area routes are converting to EVs? I have lost track! E2, E5, E6, E7 and E8. E5 and E7 are probably the top priority if you to nab some non EV rides. Those are imminent for full conversion this month or two if I an not mistaken. E8 probably has some breathing space, but be canny of new EVs freeing up hybrids. E2 same thing really, but with later deadline? I believe E6 is fully converted now.
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Post by Paul on Aug 20, 2024 5:20:39 GMT
Once upon a time a driver would be reported for it and possibly have to answer for it to the garage manager but it doesn’t happen now. Generally, if fare dodgers are on then the driver will inform the RPI when they board and tell them they’ve used the ‘Fare Evasion’ text message on the iBus MDT. I don’t know about any other company but we’re told not to challenge fare dodgers and simply report them via the text message Was meant to ask this yesterday, but what's the RPI? Sorry, shouldn’t have used the acronym. As greenboy says - Revenue Protection Inspector
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Post by COBO on Aug 22, 2024 15:26:41 GMT
Is the information on bustimes accurate?
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 22, 2024 16:00:02 GMT
Is the information on bustimes accurate? As with any computer system, only as accurate as the data feed into it. When you allow users to change details, it will never be 100% accurate ... but on the whole it is pretty reliable. As with a lot of places people races to make changes as soon as they hear info, whether true or false.
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Post by lj61nwc on Aug 22, 2024 16:07:25 GMT
Is the information on bustimes accurate? As with any computer system, only as accurate as the data feed into it. When you allow users to change details, it will never be 100% accurate ... but on the whole it is pretty reliable. As with a lot of places people races to make changes as soon as they hear info, whether true or false. User 8427 fits your description perfectly for TfL buses, but I agree, it's got a pretty nice team of volunteer moderators who do try their best moderating the edits on over 50000 buses
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Post by lj61nwc on Aug 27, 2024 20:58:34 GMT
Think this shows how much the MMC design has aged like fine wine, with the MCV design also proving its worth in the background. New Gen ADL is too boxy and sharp imo. (Creds: Bus Roundel HK)
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Post by matthieu1221 on Aug 28, 2024 19:44:21 GMT
Think this shows how much the MMC design has aged like fine wine, with the MCV design also proving its worth in the background. New Gen ADL is too boxy and sharp imo. (Creds: Bus Roundel HK) Hong Kong will likely end up being the place with the last MMC deliveries... full electrification is a long long way off. Much like how the last Plaxton Pointer 2 Dennis Dart also went to Hong Kong!
The new KMB retro livery does suit the MMC really well but really so does every Hong Kong livery. It's just a very attractive bus (and how nice it would be to have gotten some 11.3m tri-axles to London!)... though oddly enough in Hong Kong I prefer the E400-style front that preceded it even if in London I prefer the MMC front for some inexplicable reason!
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Post by COBO on Aug 29, 2024 18:50:00 GMT
So are 20u and 150u still running?
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Post by busoccultation on Aug 29, 2024 19:01:49 GMT
So are 20u and 150u still running? Nope, both of them stopped around February/March along with the peak shuttle between Epping & Chingford via Loughton and Debden that also stopped around the same time.
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Post by abellion on Aug 29, 2024 19:42:44 GMT
Is the SL5’s tree issue on South Eden Park Road?
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