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Post by vjaska on Dec 4, 2020 12:06:10 GMT
Dear sir/madam do you know what will happen to the 63 mhv's when the 63 passes to abellio. No update on where the MHV's are going or what the 132's electric buses will be.
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Post by bertrell on Dec 4, 2020 12:42:32 GMT
Dear sir/madam do you know what will happen to the 63 mhv's when the 63 passes to abellio. No update on where the MHV's are going or what the 132's electric buses will be. I can see the MHVs moving to Merton or Sutton, the 132s I suspect will AD BYDs. But time will tell on that!
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Post by Nathan on Dec 4, 2020 12:43:47 GMT
Dear sir/madam do you know what will happen to the 63 mhv's when the 63 passes to abellio. No update on where the MHV's are going or what the 132's electric buses will be. I had a thought the other day that maybe there's enough for the 37 and 337. The Es could then be moved around elsewhere or withdrawn.
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Post by bertrell on Dec 4, 2020 12:51:02 GMT
No update on where the MHV's are going or what the 132's electric buses will be. I had a thought the other day that maybe there's enough for the 37 and 337. The Es could then be moved around elsewhere or withdrawn. There are 34 at Peckham for the 63 plus spares for the 363/ 37. That could be another Possibility. But I Get a feeling they coud head to AL FOR THE 57 or Sutton.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 4, 2020 13:10:47 GMT
No update on where the MHV's are going or what the 132's electric buses will be. I had a thought the other day that maybe there's enough for the 37 and 337. The Es could then be moved around elsewhere or withdrawn. I don't think the E's will be withdrawn having both batches receiving a refurb a couple of years ago. I don't see them moving either as bar the 57, there isn't really any route for them to replace the remaining older vehicles still running with Go-Ahead. My own guess is the majority of the MHV's will move to A or AL either to begin replacing DOE's or to A for the 57 - I say majority as the 363 has some MHV's allocated and the 37 has two new to Q examples allocated (one each from the 40 & 185) as two E's are at Q on the 185.
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Post by bertrell on Dec 4, 2020 13:13:46 GMT
I had a thought the other day that maybe there's enough for the 37 and 337. The Es could then be moved around elsewhere or withdrawn. I don't think the E's will be withdrawn having both batches receiving a refurb a couple of years ago. I don't see them moving either as bar the 57, there isn't really any route for them to replace the remaining older vehicles still running with Go-Ahead. My own guess is the majority of the MHV's will move to A or AL either to begin replacing DOE's or to A for the 57 - I say majority as the 363 has some MHV's allocated and the 37 has two new to Q examples allocated (one each from the 40 & 185) as two E's are at Q on the 185. We think alike, those DOEs could move to the training fleet. As for the new buses for Sutton if the Network is retained i see no Issues with AD BYDs. The Only Issues are the Electrical points which will take up alot of space in the Garage.
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Post by ADH45258 on Dec 4, 2020 13:50:52 GMT
I had a thought the other day that maybe there's enough for the 37 and 337. The Es could then be moved around elsewhere or withdrawn. I don't think the E's will be withdrawn having both batches receiving a refurb a couple of years ago. I don't see them moving either as bar the 57, there isn't really any route for them to replace the remaining older vehicles still running with Go-Ahead. My own guess is the majority of the MHV's will move to A or AL either to begin replacing DOE's or to A for the 57 - I say majority as the 363 has some MHV's allocated and the 37 has two new to Q examples allocated (one each from the 40 & 185) as two E's are at Q on the 185. If the MHVs aren't used for a future tender award, I could perhaps see some of them stay at PM for the 37, releasing the 61/12reg Es to replace older vehicles in the fleet, perhaps at MB? As has been suggested previously, the rest could perhaps go to the 337, giving a fully hybrid DD fleet at AF - or maybe even also stay at PM for the 363, releasing EHs instead? The 59reg WVLs from the 132/180 could perhaps also remain in the fleet in the short term, to replace older batches?
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Post by ADH45258 on Dec 4, 2020 13:54:43 GMT
No update on where the MHV's are going or what the 132's electric buses will be. I can see the MHVs moving to Merton or Sutton, the 132s I suspect will AD BYDs. But time will tell on that! I wouldn't be surprised if the 132 gets Metrodeckers instead, due to the demand for BYDs. It was mentioned that there are limitations on how many BYD/E400s can be built - much of this supply may be used up by RATP and Stagecoach. RATP may have placed a speculative order before tender results, which would cover 5 routes plus extras on the 371, while I think Stagecoach have a deal with ADL so might place an order for the 160 and/or 180. Or maybe Go Ahead might trial a third electric DD type, such as the Streetdeck?
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Post by london23 on Dec 4, 2020 15:37:08 GMT
I can see the MHVs moving to Merton or Sutton, the 132s I suspect will AD BYDs. But time will tell on that! I wouldn't be surprised if the 132 gets Metrodeckers instead, due to the demand for BYDs. It was mentioned that there are limitations on how many BYD/E400s can be built - much of this supply may be used up by RATP and Stagecoach. RATP may have placed a speculative order before tender results, which would cover 5 routes plus extras on the 371, while I think Stagecoach have a deal with ADL so might place an order for the 160 and/or 180. Or maybe Go Ahead might trial a third electric DD type, such as the Streetdeck?
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Post by london23 on Dec 4, 2020 15:40:50 GMT
Dear sir/madam do you know if the 59 Reg wvls from route 132 replace the leased en's from tower transit and abellio london or will go elsewhere t replace older vehicles or will get withdrawn. Thank you
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Post by bertrell on Dec 4, 2020 16:05:54 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if the 132 gets Metrodeckers instead, due to the demand for BYDs. It was mentioned that there are limitations on how many BYD/E400s can be built - much of this supply may be used up by RATP and Stagecoach. RATP may have placed a speculative order before tender results, which would cover 5 routes plus extras on the 371, while I think Stagecoach have a deal with ADL so might place an order for the 160 and/or 180. Or maybe Go Ahead might trial a third electric DD type, such as the Streetdeck? Stagecoach will buy/ lease ADL product for London. RATP, just reserved build spots & they'll get there buses on time & Go ahead I'm certain will get BYDs too. Remember, a production line has now opened for BYDs at Falkirk. Plus ADL themselves recently said their ready to build thousands providing they get the go ahead by January 2021. As for the streetdeck, if they do I'm guessing it will be with the mercedes chassis. Or maybe the Evoseti ELectric which is due out next yr in the 4th Quarter!!! I'll make a prediction now, metroline will win the 13 with Volvo Electric Evosetis. And if their available go ahead will buy them for the Sutton garage network in late 2022!!
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Post by vjaska on Dec 4, 2020 16:33:44 GMT
Dear sir/madam do you know if the 59 Reg wvls from route 132 replace the leased en's from tower transit and abellio london or will go elsewhere t replace older vehicles or will get withdrawn. Thank you The EN’s are not leased from Tower Transit & Abellio - Tower Transit & Abellio sent both batches off lease. No update on the 132’s WVL’s
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Post by lb99 on Dec 4, 2020 23:22:47 GMT
I could see the MHVs going on 321 or moving to BX to replace older vehicles
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Post by YY13VKP on Dec 4, 2020 23:35:55 GMT
WS63 NP > MB. This just leaves WS49 and WS50 at NP for the W10
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Post by lb99 on Dec 5, 2020 6:51:30 GMT
WS63 NP > MB. This just leaves WS49 and WS50 at NP for the W10 wow that’s a lot of WSs at MB do you know what WS60-64 are allocated to they do like to stay on R3/6
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