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Sept 16, 2020 10:17:12 GMT
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Post by mkay315 on Sept 16, 2020 10:17:12 GMT
What's your thoughts on this? Well I guess if drivers live close to the changeover point they'll be in favour of it and if they live close to the garage they won't? I don't really see any problem with it, advances in technology and no cash to pay in make it feasible. There could be problems with duties that start at the changeover point and finish at the garage or vice versa though. I see. I feel like the things of the past is slowly starting to get wiped out. I feel like this was bound to happen. If not now then definitely in the future.
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Metroline
Sept 16, 2020 10:28:04 GMT
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 16, 2020 10:28:04 GMT
What's your thoughts on this? Well I guess if drivers live close to the changeover point they'll be in favour of it and if they live close to the garage they won't? I don't really see any problem with it, advances in technology and no cash to pay in make it feasible. There could be problems with duties that start at the changeover point and finish at the garage or vice versa though. I doubt there is parking facilities near many remote sign-on locations for those that need to drive into work.
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Metroline
Sept 16, 2020 10:33:28 GMT
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Post by greenboy on Sept 16, 2020 10:33:28 GMT
Well I guess if drivers live close to the changeover point they'll be in favour of it and if they live close to the garage they won't? I don't really see any problem with it, advances in technology and no cash to pay in make it feasible. There could be problems with duties that start at the changeover point and finish at the garage or vice versa though. I doubt there is parking facilities near many remote sign-on locations for those that need to drive into work. No probably not in town centre locations but then many garages only have very limited parking facilities.
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Metroline
Sept 16, 2020 10:46:08 GMT
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 16, 2020 10:46:08 GMT
I doubt there is parking facilities near many remote sign-on locations for those that need to drive into work. No probably not in town centre locations but then many garages only have very limited parking facilities. But if you have been TUPE'ed over to a garage that is not near, this could adversely affect you.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 16, 2020 11:07:14 GMT
I did hear elsewhere that the 139 isn't the most popular route at W due to the remote sign on, and now they seem to be balloting over it. Is there a reason this has only affected Metroline and not Go Ahead (and I believe Abellio)? Do they have a different set up or a different style to paying drivers on this? Should drivers opt for Strike action over this it could really be a huge kick in Metroline's teeth, especially if competitors end up being able to use remote sign on but they are being held back by. Could prove a huge issue in the ability to win or retain work over the next few years.
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Post by kmkcheng on Sept 16, 2020 11:12:33 GMT
I did hear elsewhere that the 139 isn't the most popular route at W due to the remote sign on, and now they seem to be balloting over it. Is there a reason this has only affected Metroline and not Go Ahead (and I believe Abellio)? Do they have a different set up or a different style to paying drivers on this? Should drivers opt for Strike action over this it could really be a huge kick in Metroline's teeth, especially if competitors end up being able to use remote sign on but they are being held back by. Could prove a huge issue in the ability to win or retain work over the next few years. Didn’t the Go-Ahead drivers have the same issue as well? I seem to remember someone posting a leaflet or poster on this forum about balloting for strike action as well
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Metroline
Sept 16, 2020 11:41:16 GMT
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Post by greenboy on Sept 16, 2020 11:41:16 GMT
I did hear elsewhere that the 139 isn't the most popular route at W due to the remote sign on, and now they seem to be balloting over it. Is there a reason this has only affected Metroline and not Go Ahead (and I believe Abellio)? Do they have a different set up or a different style to paying drivers on this? Should drivers opt for Strike action over this it could really be a huge kick in Metroline's teeth, especially if competitors end up being able to use remote sign on but they are being held back by. Could prove a huge issue in the ability to win or retain work over the next few years. Didn’t the Go-Ahead drivers have the same issue as well? I seem to remember someone posting a leaflet or poster on this forum about balloting for strike action as well I think Go Ahead won the 403 on the basis of remote sign on?
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Sept 16, 2020 11:44:18 GMT
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Post by vjaska on Sept 16, 2020 11:44:18 GMT
Didn’t the Go-Ahead drivers have the same issue as well? I seem to remember someone posting a leaflet or poster on this forum about balloting for strike action as well I think Go Ahead won the 403 on the basis of remote sign on? I believe that's the case - I also believe there is a remote sign in point at Woolwich for MG?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 12:31:55 GMT
I think Go Ahead won the 403 on the basis of remote sign on? I believe that's the case - I also believe there is a remote sign in point at Woolwich for MG? It's another case of Unite being useless. They're balloting for a strike over something that they've allowed to happen at Go Ahead for 3 years! Union membership amongst drivers has been going down rapidly over the last few years as people have lost faith in them. I think this whole strike ballot thing is Unite realising they've been asleep at the wheel for too long and are trying to overcompensate to gain back some support but it's too late. A lot of drivers have moved on.
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Sept 16, 2020 12:34:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 12:34:11 GMT
Well I guess if drivers live close to the changeover point they'll be in favour of it and if they live close to the garage they won't? I don't really see any problem with it, advances in technology and no cash to pay in make it feasible. There could be problems with duties that start at the changeover point and finish at the garage or vice versa though. I doubt there is parking facilities near many remote sign-on locations for those that need to drive into work. Remote sign on rotas have always been voluntary - so if you drive to work then go on a different rota essentially. As others have said it does suit a lot of drivers who live nearer to the relief point and the Woolwich sign on rotas at MG have been very popular
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Sept 16, 2020 12:42:16 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 12:42:16 GMT
I doubt there is parking facilities near many remote sign-on locations for those that need to drive into work. Remote sign on rotas have always been voluntary - so if you drive to work then go on a different rota essentially. As others have said it does suit a lot of drivers who live nearer to the relief point and the Woolwich sign on rotas at MG have been very popular Maybe that’s the difference then, Go Ahead made it voluntary allowing drivers to win each other over to it through positive experiences whereas Metroline has made it mandatory.
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Sept 16, 2020 12:43:58 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 12:43:58 GMT
Remote sign on rotas have always been voluntary - so if you drive to work then go on a different rota essentially. As others have said it does suit a lot of drivers who live nearer to the relief point and the Woolwich sign on rotas at MG have been very popular Maybe that’s the difference then, Go Ahead made it voluntary allowing drivers to win each other over to it through positive experiences whereas Metroline has made it mandatory. It is voluntary at Metroline as well - was discussed in one of the bus drivers' groups.
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Metroline
Sept 16, 2020 13:02:26 GMT
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 16, 2020 13:02:26 GMT
I doubt there is parking facilities near many remote sign-on locations for those that need to drive into work. Remote sign on rotas have always been voluntary - so if you drive to work then go on a different rota essentially. As others have said it does suit a lot of drivers who live nearer to the relief point and the Woolwich sign on rotas at MG have been very popular But if you're TUPEed you can't transfer rotas without giving up any TUPE protection.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 13:06:35 GMT
Remote sign on rotas have always been voluntary - so if you drive to work then go on a different rota essentially. As others have said it does suit a lot of drivers who live nearer to the relief point and the Woolwich sign on rotas at MG have been very popular But if you're TUPEed you can't transfer rotas without giving up any TUPE protection. Well it's up to them whether they TUPE or not!
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Post by vjaska on Sept 16, 2020 13:07:36 GMT
I believe that's the case - I also believe there is a remote sign in point at Woolwich for MG? It's another case of Unite being useless. They're balloting for a strike over something that they've allowed to happen at Go Ahead for 3 years! Union membership amongst drivers has been going down rapidly over the last few years as people have lost faith in them. I think this whole strike ballot thing is Unite realising they've been asleep at the wheel for too long and are trying to overcompensate to gain back some support but it's too late. A lot of drivers have moved on. I have no opinion on the subject, was merely replying about there being one for the 403 and one for MG
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