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Sept 16, 2020 14:46:31 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 14:46:31 GMT
Maybe that’s the difference then, Go Ahead made it voluntary allowing drivers to win each other over to it through positive experiences whereas Metroline has made it mandatory. It is voluntary at Metroline as well - was discussed in one of the bus drivers' groups. Okay, strange then that Unite would target one operator but not another.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 14:51:09 GMT
It is voluntary at Metroline as well - was discussed in one of the bus drivers' groups. Okay, strange then that Unite would target one operator but not another. It's just what I and many others have come to expect from Unite.
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Sept 16, 2020 15:19:24 GMT
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Post by greenboy on Sept 16, 2020 15:19:24 GMT
It is voluntary at Metroline as well - was discussed in one of the bus drivers' groups. Okay, strange then that Unite would target one operator but not another. It's probably a case of the right hand not knowing what the left one is doing........ Unite don't have the best of reputations generally.
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Post by COBO on Sept 16, 2020 16:16:30 GMT
Question what happens if the extras on the U4 is needed in December and the 306 needs it’s VWHs to start its new contract what happens then?
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Post by wirewiper on Sept 16, 2020 17:51:13 GMT
Question what happens if the extras on the U4 is needed in December and the 306 needs it’s VWHs to start its new contract what happens then? They will need to find alternative vehicles for the U4 extras in that case.
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Sept 16, 2020 19:05:27 GMT
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 16, 2020 19:05:27 GMT
They may just have a handful of VWHs from the 7 by then.
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Sept 16, 2020 19:09:45 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 19:09:45 GMT
They may just have a handful of VWHs from the 7 by then. I think it was noted that the VWHs won't be free till early 2021 as the hydrogen vehicles haven't even arrived and the process of preparing them is different to normal hybrids etc
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Sept 16, 2020 19:13:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 19:13:27 GMT
Question what happens if the extras on the U4 is needed in December and the 306 needs it’s VWHs to start its new contract what happens then? I guess another question is whether the U4 will still be a DD route or will it return back to SD operation. If so the U4 is fine but like all things now, we have to wait and see. We may know by October how TfL want to continue operating routes
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Post by COBO on Sept 16, 2020 19:16:11 GMT
Question what happens if the extras on the U4 is needed in December and the 306 needs it’s VWHs to start its new contract what happens then? I guess another question is whether the U4 will still be a DD route or will it return back to SD operation. If so the U4 is fine but like all things now, we have to wait and see. We may know by October how TfL want to continue operating routes The U4 is double deck with it’s own double decks. I believe the U3 is the route that has been temporarily converted to double deck for the school journeys thingy.
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Sept 16, 2020 19:25:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 19:25:57 GMT
I guess another question is whether the U4 will still be a DD route or will it return back to SD operation. If so the U4 is fine but like all things now, we have to wait and see. We may know by October how TfL want to continue operating routes The U4 is double deck with it’s own double decks. I believe the U3 is the route that has been temporarily converted to double deck for the school journeys thingy. Yes but the U3 DD where mainly formed from the U4 allocation, explaining the move of the VWHs into UX. TE1429 & TE1432 also moved into UX so therefore at the amount there are enough vehicles between the two routes.
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Post by COBO on Sept 16, 2020 19:28:56 GMT
The U4 is double deck with it’s own double decks. I believe the U3 is the route that has been temporarily converted to double deck for the school journeys thingy. Yes but the U3 DD where mainly formed from the U4 allocation, explaining the move of the VWHs into UX. TE1429 & TE1432 also moved into UX so therefore at the amount there are enough vehicles between the two routes. What happened to the U3s single deckers?
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Sept 16, 2020 19:31:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2020 19:31:35 GMT
Yes but the U3 DD where mainly formed from the U4 allocation, explaining the move of the VWHs into UX. TE1429 & TE1432 also moved into UX so therefore at the amount there are enough vehicles between the two routes. What happened to the U3s single deckers? By the looks of things, all but a few stayed, used on the V extras on routes such as the 331 and A10 while some like DE1329 has moved to WJ for extras there. Obviously during this time, vehicles will move about and so for now, we don't know whether it's more of a permanent transfer or not
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Post by richard on Sept 17, 2020 1:06:20 GMT
Have the hydrogen's been built yet?
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Post by TE920 on Sept 17, 2020 7:14:43 GMT
The problem we have with remote sign on is parking facilities. Lack of information from Unite, as well as the fact Metroline have apparently been in talks with Unite for a long period of time which Unite have failed to mention. and as such like someone has said earlier in this group, Unite have been asleep on the wheel and are trying to fix this.
we have is lack of parking, facilities to use, and if a driver fails to turn up, and was meant to sign on at GG, then Metroline end up losing either mileage or pushing the buses forward etc.
Other drivers are to bring those remote sign on drivers duties to that location. What if they forget etc and will end up being in trouble etc.
Yes a minority of drivers may live closer to the location, which is understandable.
Now it may look all good for now with it all being Voluntary but a lot of drivers on the 139 are Loaned from HT mainly, AC, PV and EW.
With HT it’s probably easier for Remote Sign On.
As they say, it starts with one Route then will spread. Such as 168 and so.
For now, I’m not bothered as much. Parking is a big issue, yes. Especially some drivers are coming from far.
If facilities were improved then I’d be happy to do so.’
Toilet facilities are disgusting and that’s if we have any.
Canteens not always the best and cramped out.
Brent Cross is bad. Finsbury Park is bad.
All cramped, toilets stink, ventilation doesn’t work properly but because you can hear it, it’s working apparently. Finsbury Park, your eating your food and driver is in the toilet and both smells combined....yes not great.
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Post by barrypotter on Sept 17, 2020 7:33:59 GMT
This shouldn't turn into Toilet Of The Year competition, but if there is a more disgusting permanent facility than North Finchley Bus Station, I don't want to know about it. The temporary ones leave much to be desired also.🚽😟
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