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Post by richard on Dec 1, 2021 21:44:46 GMT
Usual apologies if this is in another thread, but I have just noticed the company announcement that Perivale West (PA) is to close at the end of next February. Again, sorry if this is old news. So another send off/running day is on the cards then just like at ON?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 1, 2021 21:52:40 GMT
Usual apologies if this is in another thread, but I have just noticed the company announcement that Perivale West (PA) is to close at the end of next February. Again, sorry if this is old news. So another send off/running day is on the cards then just like at ON? Highly unlikely since PA is on an industrial estate, can't imagine the owners of the industrial estate would be happy
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Post by LT 20181 on Dec 1, 2021 22:04:00 GMT
Didn’t PA started off as an F. E. Thorpes depot?
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Post by kmkcheng on Dec 1, 2021 22:13:36 GMT
Didn’t PA started off as an F. E. Thorpes depot? Yes it was the Thorpes base when Metroline acquired them
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Post by rj131 on Dec 1, 2021 22:13:58 GMT
Wonder where the routes other than the 120 will move 31/N31 could go to HT or KC, the 297 would probably end up at PV or the new Alperton garage whenever it opens or even AC if they do have space to run another route from there and as for the 90 it would probably go to PV as well. Im pretty sure it’s been mentioned AC is pretty much full capacity, I think previous PVR cuts to the 52 and 98 have released about 8 buses, so probably not enough to fit most routes in it. I had completely overestimated how many routes PA had. When I looked at LBR to see what routes needed to be sent off elsewhere I couldn’t believe they were down to just four routes. I envisaged they had a lot more than that. I know they used to have the 105, was there anything else that’s recently departed from there making me think it used to be fuller? 90/297 very likely to PV as they’ll easily fit in once the 83/483 depart to the new Alperton base, tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if the 31 follows too to PV to make driver logistics easier. They run it very well from Perivale currently so not worth fixing what ain’t broke imo
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Post by YX10FFN on Dec 1, 2021 22:21:36 GMT
31/N31 could go to HT or KC, the 297 would probably end up at PV or the new Alperton garage whenever it opens or even AC if they do have space to run another route from there and as for the 90 it would probably go to PV as well. Im pretty sure it’s been mentioned AC is pretty much full capacity, I think previous PVR cuts to the 52 and 98 have released about 8 buses, so probably not enough to fit most routes in it. I had completely overestimated how many routes PA had. When I looked at LBR to see what routes needed to be sent off elsewhere I couldn’t believe they were down to just four routes. I envisaged they had a lot more than that. I know they used to have the 105, was there anything else that’s recently departed from there making me think it used to be fuller? 90/297 very likely to PV as they’ll easily fit in once the 83/483 depart to the new Alperton base, tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if the 31 follows too to PV to make driver logistics easier. They run it very well from Perivale currently so not worth fixing what ain’t broke imo They lost both the 79 and 105 in 2018 and the 395 in 2019. The E6 went to G sometime around there aswell.
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Post by kmkcheng on Dec 1, 2021 22:23:43 GMT
31/N31 could go to HT or KC, the 297 would probably end up at PV or the new Alperton garage whenever it opens or even AC if they do have space to run another route from there and as for the 90 it would probably go to PV as well. Im pretty sure it’s been mentioned AC is pretty much full capacity, I think previous PVR cuts to the 52 and 98 have released about 8 buses, so probably not enough to fit most routes in it. I had completely overestimated how many routes PA had. When I looked at LBR to see what routes needed to be sent off elsewhere I couldn’t believe they were down to just four routes. I envisaged they had a lot more than that. I know they used to have the 105, was there anything else that’s recently departed from there making me think it used to be fuller? 90/297 very likely to PV as they’ll easily fit in once the 83/483 depart to the new Alperton base, tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if the 31 follows too to PV to make driver logistics easier. They run it very well from Perivale currently so not worth fixing what ain’t broke imo Depends how much more room PV has, you’re right they could just move 31, 90 and 297 there. There will be an overlap as I believe ON’s replacement won’t be ready till the 2nd half of 2022 so would have to accommodate all the routes for a few months
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Post by kmkcheng on Dec 1, 2021 22:26:46 GMT
Im pretty sure it’s been mentioned AC is pretty much full capacity, I think previous PVR cuts to the 52 and 98 have released about 8 buses, so probably not enough to fit most routes in it. I had completely overestimated how many routes PA had. When I looked at LBR to see what routes needed to be sent off elsewhere I couldn’t believe they were down to just four routes. I envisaged they had a lot more than that. I know they used to have the 105, was there anything else that’s recently departed from there making me think it used to be fuller? 90/297 very likely to PV as they’ll easily fit in once the 83/483 depart to the new Alperton base, tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if the 31 follows too to PV to make driver logistics easier. They run it very well from Perivale currently so not worth fixing what ain’t broke imo They lost both the 79 and 105 in 2018 and the 395 in 2019. The E6 went to G sometime around there aswell. The 79 did operate out of PA in the middle of the contract but the first and last few months of the last contract was at PV
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Post by foxhat on Dec 1, 2021 22:26:52 GMT
31/N31 could go to HT or KC, the 297 would probably end up at PV or the new Alperton garage whenever it opens or even AC if they do have space to run another route from there and as for the 90 it would probably go to PV as well. Im pretty sure it’s been mentioned AC is pretty much full capacity, I think previous PVR cuts to the 52 and 98 have released about 8 buses, so probably not enough to fit most routes in it. I had completely overestimated how many routes PA had. When I looked at LBR to see what routes needed to be sent off elsewhere I couldn’t believe they were down to just four routes. I envisaged they had a lot more than that. I know they used to have the 105, was there anything else that’s recently departed from there making me think it used to be fuller? 90/297 very likely to PV as they’ll easily fit in once the 83/483 depart to the new Alperton base, tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if the 31 follows too to PV to make driver logistics easier. They run it very well from Perivale currently so not worth fixing what ain’t broke imo Don't think the new base is going to be built within three months especially as it's still being used by the current owners.
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Post by YX10FFN on Dec 1, 2021 22:27:37 GMT
31/N31 could go to HT or KC, the 297 would probably end up at PV or the new Alperton garage whenever it opens or even AC if they do have space to run another route from there and as for the 90 it would probably go to PV as well. Im pretty sure it’s been mentioned AC is pretty much full capacity, I think previous PVR cuts to the 52 and 98 have released about 8 buses, so probably not enough to fit most routes in it. I had completely overestimated how many routes PA had. When I looked at LBR to see what routes needed to be sent off elsewhere I couldn’t believe they were down to just four routes. I envisaged they had a lot more than that. I know they used to have the 105, was there anything else that’s recently departed from there making me think it used to be fuller? 90/297 very likely to PV as they’ll easily fit in once the 83/483 depart to the new Alperton base, tbh I wouldn’t be surprised if the 31 follows too to PV to make driver logistics easier. They run it very well from Perivale currently so not worth fixing what ain’t broke imo Could it take the 297 if the 460 went to PB and AC took the entire N98 allocation?
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Dec 1, 2021 22:58:17 GMT
Usual apologies if this is in another thread, but I have just noticed the company announcement that Perivale West (PA) is to close at the end of next February. Again, sorry if this is old news. Wonder where the routes other than the 120 will move I also saw/heard about this notice aswell, I haven't been told where the routes will exactly go apart from route 120, but I'm guessing for the others: Route 31/N31 PA > PV Route 90 PA > PV Route 297 PA > new Alperton garage (maybe this could explain why routes 220 and 295 tenders were announced earlier with route 297 delayed)
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Post by kmkcheng on Dec 1, 2021 23:23:25 GMT
Wonder where the routes other than the 120 will move I also saw/heard about this notice aswell, I haven't been told where the routes will exactly go apart from route 120, but I'm guessing for the others: Route 31/N31 PA > PV Route 90 PA > PV Route 297 PA > new Alperton garage (maybe this could explain why routes 220 and 295 tenders were announced earlier with route 297 delayed) I believe the new base won’t be ready when PA closes so the 297 would have to go elsewhere, likely PV as well. The new base is likely once it does open as the 297 passes by it
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Dec 1, 2021 23:40:27 GMT
I also saw/heard about this notice aswell, I haven't been told where the routes will exactly go apart from route 120, but I'm guessing for the others: Route 31/N31 PA > PV Route 90 PA > PV Route 297 PA > new Alperton garage (maybe this could explain why routes 220 and 295 tenders were announced earlier with route 297 delayed) I believe the new base won’t be ready when PA closes so the 297 would have to go elsewhere, likely PV as well. The new base is likely once it does open as the 297 passes by it Yeah I know, route 297 could temporarily run from AC with route 460 temporarily going to PB as there's plenty of space over there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2021 10:15:22 GMT
Some rationalisation at this company is probably due. They can save money by reducing their overheads in the Alperton / Perivale area.
The 297 is yet to be awarded and WJ have lost two big routes as of Oct next year. Also the 186 , if that goes it could give HD a problem. I hope they don’t lose it.
120 into SG makes sense. Presume AH would do engineering.
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Post by greenboy on Dec 2, 2021 10:24:35 GMT
Some rationalisation at this company is probably due. They can save money by reducing their overheads in the Alperton / Perivale area. The 297 is yet to be awarded and WJ have lost two big routes as of Oct next year. Also the 186 , if that goes it could give HD a problem. I hope they don’t lose it. 120 into SG makes sense. Presume AH would do engineering. Metroline do seem to have an abundance of spare capacity and I can't help thinking that the new Alperton garage would be of more use to Abellio or RATP but I guess there is no chance of that happening.
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