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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Dec 11, 2021 7:42:31 GMT
I think route 31 would be better back at HT (who had an allocation in 1987-89) with route 91 moving to HT, taking all HT VMHs and some VWHs with it. While route 297 is currently VW operated, it could require more modern buses upon retender next December. I’m guessing you meant 91 moving to KC? Oh yes While I'm about it, the reasons I suggest route 91 rather than route 17 is that route 17 is now BCE/LT while route 91 does not serve Archway.
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Dec 11, 2021 11:04:16 GMT
Not surprised about PA closing, probably the most logical garage to close given all the excess capacity in the area. It's relatively small, and very close to both G and PV which have space available. Though I would still question the need for the new Alperton garage, with PV being round the corner with excess space still, could easily keep the 83/483 there in the long term. Regarding reshuffles, I think this would be the best solution. 31 to KC - filling the space still available from the 214 (plus the 393 was previously rumoured to be moving there). Very close to the Camden Town terminus, and maintains a standardised VMH fleet with the 30/274. 90 to G - Not far from the line of route or the terminus at Northolt, has space available, and VMHs are already used on the 607/E9. 297 to PV - Very close to the line of route, and already has VWs. I think route 31 would be better back at HT (who had an allocation in 1987-89) with route 91 moving to HT, taking all HT VMHs and some VWHs with it. While route 297 is currently VW operated, it could require more modern buses upon retender next December. The 91 could move to KC without any VWH's. VWH2108 -> SG for 120 VWH2109 -> SG for 120 These would replace VMH2532 and VMH2533 currently on the 120. VMH2532 -> KC for 91 VMH2533 -> KC for 91 VMH2583 -> KC for 91 VMH2584 -> KC for 91 VMH2585 -> KC for 91 VMH2586 -> KC for 91 These would replace VWH2093 to VWH2099 (bar 2097) currently on the 91. The 31 would operate using: VMH2558 - VMH2560 VMH2564 VMH2572 - VMH2580 VWH2093 - VWH2096 VWH2098 - VWH2099
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Dec 11, 2021 11:22:00 GMT
I think route 31 would be better back at HT (who had an allocation in 1987-89) with route 91 moving to HT, taking all HT VMHs and some VWHs with it. While route 297 is currently VW operated, it could require more modern buses upon retender next December. The 91 could move to KC without any VWH's. VWH2108 -> SG for 120 VWH2109 -> SG for 120 These would replace VMH2532 and VMH2533 currently on the 120. VMH2532 -> KC for 91 VMH2533 -> KC for 91 VMH2583 -> KC for 91 VMH2584 -> KC for 91 VMH2585 -> KC for 91 VMH2586 -> KC for 91 These would replace VWH2093 to VWH2099 (bar 2097) currently on the 91. The 31 would operate using: VMH2558 - VMH2560 VMH2564 VMH2572 - VMH2580 VWH2093 - VWH2096 VWH2098 - VWH2099 What is good about this is that it keeps KC all VMH albeit with route 31 instead of 91 mixed VMH/VWH. I wish PB would swap its final VMHs for more VWHs but still.
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Post by metrolinewest on Dec 11, 2021 15:55:29 GMT
The 91 could move to KC without any VWH's. VWH2108 -> SG for 120 VWH2109 -> SG for 120 These would replace VMH2532 and VMH2533 currently on the 120. VMH2532 -> KC for 91 VMH2533 -> KC for 91 VMH2583 -> KC for 91 VMH2584 -> KC for 91 VMH2585 -> KC for 91 VMH2586 -> KC for 91 These would replace VWH2093 to VWH2099 (bar 2097) currently on the 91. The 31 would operate using: VMH2558 - VMH2560 VMH2564 VMH2572 - VMH2580 VWH2093 - VWH2096 VWH2098 - VWH2099 What is good about this is that it keeps KC all VMH albeit with route 31 instead of 91 mixed VMH/VWH. I wish PB would swap its final VMHs for more VWHs but still. VWH from HT end up on 30 and 274 from time to time so I don’t think it would be a priority to have one type at KC
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Post by BE37054 (quoll662) on Dec 11, 2021 16:07:42 GMT
What is good about this is that it keeps KC all VMH albeit with route 31 instead of 91 mixed VMH/VWH. I wish PB would swap its final VMHs for more VWHs but still. VWH from HT end up on 30 and 274 from time to time so I don’t think it would be a priority to have one type at KC Yes but they're not based at KC. If KC do any maintenance in house, no engineers at KC need to be trained to work with the VWH.
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Post by metrolinewest on Dec 11, 2021 17:12:46 GMT
VWH from HT end up on 30 and 274 from time to time so I don’t think it would be a priority to have one type at KC Yes but they're not based at KC. If KC do any maintenance in house, no engineers at KC need to be trained to work with the VWH. I think maintenance is at HT as the VMH from 30 and 274 end up on HT routes as well
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Dec 15, 2021 9:43:14 GMT
Route 235 will still transfer over to RATP on 8th January with route 120 transferring over to SG, so whoever posted on Facebook that the takeover will be delayed was telling fake news.
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Post by kmkcheng on Dec 15, 2021 18:09:52 GMT
The latest TLB from LOTS reports that 17 BDEs have been ordered for the 204
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Post by rj131 on Dec 15, 2021 18:14:55 GMT
The latest TLB from LOTS reports that 17 BDEs have been ordered for the 204 Oh wow, I have to be honest I’m very surprised they didn’t order say like 11 or 12 with ex-43 BDEs topping then up.
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Post by wirewiper on Dec 15, 2021 18:15:23 GMT
The latest TLB from LOTS reports that 17 BDEs have been ordered for the 204 That will surprise a lot of people who thought that the new Volvo BZL would be a shoo-in!
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Post by Busboy105 on Dec 15, 2021 18:20:49 GMT
The latest TLB from LOTS reports that 17 BDEs have been ordered for the 204 Oh wow, I have to be honest I’m very surprised they didn’t order say like 11 or 12 with ex-43 BDEs topping then up. The ex-43 BDEs are with the 17 now
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Post by kmkcheng on Dec 15, 2021 18:23:29 GMT
The latest TLB from LOTS reports that 17 BDEs have been ordered for the 204 That will surprise a lot of people who thought that the new Volvo BZL would be a shoo-in! They haven’t even started using the demonstrator yet so it would be quite a risk to order it before trialling it. Speaking of the demonstrator, it is also reported to be going on trial at existing electric garages so likely to expect to see it on 17/43 and 134
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Post by vjaska on Dec 15, 2021 18:26:22 GMT
Oh wow, I have to be honest I’m very surprised they didn’t order say like 11 or 12 with ex-43 BDEs topping then up. The ex-43 BDEs are with the 17 now Yes but they could be moved to the 204 quite easily with LT’s replacing them to leave a full LT allocation
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Post by JUNIOR26 on Dec 15, 2021 18:55:28 GMT
The fleet numbers for route 204s batch should be BDE2751-2767.
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Post by VMH2537 on Dec 15, 2021 19:00:08 GMT
The fleet numbers for route 204s batch should be BDE2751-2767. Does this confirm E400 EVs are ordered for the 204?
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