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Post by i3lu on Oct 20, 2022 18:56:29 GMT
I hear that the 32 is going to get LTs and is going to W and the 142/642 is getting the ex 32s TEHs. Does anyone know that I’d true? 142 has been confirmed with electrics. Those TEHs are 11 yo now.
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Oct 20, 2022 19:04:30 GMT
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Post by COBO on Oct 20, 2022 19:04:30 GMT
I hear that the 32 is going to get LTs and is going to W and the 142/642 is getting the ex 32s TEHs. Does anyone know that I’d true? 142 has been confirmed with electrics. Those TEHs are 11 yo now. That’s what I thought.
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Oct 20, 2022 19:09:23 GMT
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Post by dragonman on Oct 20, 2022 19:09:23 GMT
142 has been confirmed with electrics. Those TEHs are 11 yo now. That’s what I thought. but the 142 won't be getting their electrics for a while so it makes sense they'll be using the fleet currently allocated to the 32 in the meantime, if the 32 in turn moves back to W to allow this, and converts to LTs.
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Post by COBO on Oct 20, 2022 19:11:23 GMT
but the 142 won't be getting their electrics for a while so it makes sense they'll be using the fleet currently allocated to the 32 in the meantime, if the 32 in turn moves back to W to allow this, and converts to LTs. But why can’t the 142 take the LTs? How do know that it will take while for the 142 to get its electrics? Or couldn’t the 142 take the electrics meant for the 204 temporarily and the 204 keep it TEs and VWs for a while longer.
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Oct 20, 2022 21:45:15 GMT
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Post by ADH45258 on Oct 20, 2022 21:45:15 GMT
I hear that the 32 is going to get LTs and is going to W and the 142/642 is getting the ex 32s TEHs. Does anyone know that I’d true? This could work until the 142's electrics are available, but presumably any spare LTs would have to come from other operators? Also note that 32's TEHs wouldn't cover the 642 as well.
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Post by londonbuses184 on Oct 21, 2022 23:46:36 GMT
The notice Metroline issued on tender apparently stated that this would be part of the allocation. This was posted in the tender thread. DEL2259-65 are off to HZ for storage. What about DEL2612?
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 22, 2022 4:39:34 GMT
i wonder if it'll continue to use new routemasters, if not the new routemasters that are allocated to it currently could be used to possibly convert the 32 if that transfers back to W. I could easily see the 32 convert to use the ones off the 16 for another contract. Route 32 would be an easy candidate for LTs. So I reckon could route 98, at least after it is diverted to Victoria.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 22, 2022 4:42:34 GMT
Another electric allocated route! Personally I would have allocated the spare EVs to the 263 which seems to use Diesels on a daily basis. There are only enough to convert a route with a small PVR which the 317 fits. The 317 also sees regular OME workings too so drivers are already trained with the type. The 263 is allocated diesels for the foreseeable. With route 263 still have diesels, I am not sure how routes E2/E8 can gain hybrids from route 263. I can only suppose that the loss of route 91 will provide hybrids for route 263.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Oct 22, 2022 4:44:13 GMT
Well 263 are going to get its own batch of electrics in 2023 well temporarily until 2025 the electrics originally ordered for the E2/E8 have been temporarily diverted to the 245 and 263 while the E2 and E8 gains there hybrids temporarily until 2025. I presume that 263 are going to get beforehand. It's likely it will get them off the 271 when it goes. Most logical would be when the 263 contract ends that the 271 is withdrawn. Except that route 271 is unlikely to be withdrawn until next October, but the new contracts for routes E2/E8 start next May. EDIT: I have now seen the post indicating that route 271 will be withdrawn in February. So route 263 would inherit the route 271 contract and hybrids. Route 21 would be diverted to Holloway 8 months ahead of its next tender.
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Post by londonbuses184 on Oct 22, 2022 7:07:03 GMT
It's likely it will get them off the 271 when it goes. Most logical would be when the 263 contract ends that the 271 is withdrawn. Except that route 271 is unlikely to be withdrawn until next October, but the new contracts for routes E2/E8 start next May. EDIT: I have now seen the post indicating that route 271 will be withdrawn in February. So route 263 would inherit the route 271 contract and hybrids. Route 21 would be diverted to Holloway 8 months ahead of its next tender. For me it was obvious the 263 was getting hybrids and I would've been baffled if the 263 continued with TEs. Because the tender clearly said that the E2/E8 would inherit hybrids from the 245/263. The VWs can just finish off with the E2/E8 until the electrics are ready.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 22, 2022 9:48:13 GMT
There are only enough to convert a route with a small PVR which the 317 fits. The 317 also sees regular OME workings too so drivers are already trained with the type. The 263 is allocated diesels for the foreseeable. With route 263 still have diesels, I am not sure how routes E2/E8 can gain hybrids from route 263. I can only suppose that the loss of route 91 will provide hybrids for route 263. Until these VWH’s come free whether it’s from the 271 or 91, it will still be allocated diesels hence my comment saying for the foreseeable
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 22, 2022 11:23:12 GMT
With route 263 still have diesels, I am not sure how routes E2/E8 can gain hybrids from route 263. I can only suppose that the loss of route 91 will provide hybrids for route 263. Until these VWH’s come free whether it’s from the 271 or 91, it will still be allocated diesels hence my comment saying for the foreseeable According to a post on The Londoner FB page, OMEs will no longer be allocated on the night 134, with hybrids being used instead. Apparently OMEs need to be 100% charged overnight, ready for the day 134
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Post by SILENCED on Oct 22, 2022 11:46:11 GMT
Until these VWH’s come free whether it’s from the 271 or 91, it will still be allocated diesels hence my comment saying for the foreseeable According to a post on The Londoner FB page, OMEs will no longer be allocated on the night 134, with hybrids being used instead. Apparently OMEs need to be 100% charged overnight, ready for the day 134 How many hybrids does PB have now? Unless missing a batch a handful of VWH22xx and a handful of VMH24xx. This is going to need some good scheduling if this is to be achieved. Seemingly 4 from 9 needed unless more are allocated.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 22, 2022 12:09:14 GMT
Until these VWH’s come free whether it’s from the 271 or 91, it will still be allocated diesels hence my comment saying for the foreseeable According to a post on The Londoner FB page, OMEs will no longer be allocated on the night 134, with hybrids being used instead. Apparently OMEs need to be 100% charged overnight, ready for the day 134 Yeah I read that though not sure how that relates to what I said?
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Post by kmkcheng on Oct 22, 2022 13:38:04 GMT
According to a post on The Londoner FB page, OMEs will no longer be allocated on the night 134, with hybrids being used instead. Apparently OMEs need to be 100% charged overnight, ready for the day 134 Yeah I read that though not sure how that relates to what I said? Don’t know why I quoted your post. It was suppose to be a separate post
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