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Post by COBO on Aug 9, 2024 21:10:01 GMT
Pre-covid I recall them constantly running through White City in the evenings completely rammed because of Westfield, it absolutely needed double decks in those moments although I have no clue what it is like now. I was hoping for the 92's TEs two years ago but those were leased and promptly withdrawn Yeah the 92 TEs would've been a very good upgrade for the 95. I think it could maybe do with an increased PVR with a partial decker allocation. I don't think it would need deckers all the time as the 95 is shadowed by the likes of 105 and 487. Just because it’s shadowed by 487 and 105 doesn’t mean it doesn’t need dds all the time.
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Aug 9, 2024 21:15:49 GMT
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Post by mrhk on Aug 9, 2024 21:15:49 GMT
Yeah the 92 TEs would've been a very good upgrade for the 95. I think it could maybe do with an increased PVR with a partial decker allocation. I don't think it would need deckers all the time as the 95 is shadowed by the likes of 105 and 487. Just because it’s shadowed by 487 and 105 doesn’t mean it doesn’t need dds all the time. Fair enough. Would like to see EvoSetis on the 95 though, only happened a few times back when they were newer.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 10, 2024 5:45:35 GMT
It very well could get decked. There aren't very many young single deckers free to be used except some of the ex-235 batch DELs. EDIT: If its retained by ML. Then again they could slap single decker electric buses on the 95 I hope it's retained with double deckers, one reason they could double deck it is to also allow for a larger pool of double deckers at Greenford, though not the best reason it could still be a little advantage! After all, it's now the only single decker route there after the E6 has left. A more refreshing change on route 95 would be Transport UK Electroliners
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Aug 10, 2024 9:12:06 GMT
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Post by YX18KVJ (DLE30221) on Aug 10, 2024 9:12:06 GMT
I hope it's retained with double deckers, one reason they could double deck it is to also allow for a larger pool of double deckers at Greenford, though not the best reason it could still be a little advantage! After all, it's now the only single decker route there after the E6 has left. A more refreshing change on route 95 would be Transport UK Electroliners Or Metroline could retain it with evosetis off the 4. Alternatively they could use them for a 105 bid.
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Post by mrhk on Aug 10, 2024 20:16:28 GMT
I hope it's retained with double deckers, one reason they could double deck it is to also allow for a larger pool of double deckers at Greenford, though not the best reason it could still be a little advantage! After all, it's now the only single decker route there after the E6 has left. A more refreshing change on route 95 would be Transport UK Electroliners Would make it the 6th or so route to be lost to Abellio/TUK. Then again (other than RATP) there isn't any other company 95 could go to. 427 207/N207 E1 (They did win it back recently so I don't know if I should count it) E5 E6 E7 E9 (Won back too) E10 E11
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Post by mrhk on Aug 10, 2024 20:17:40 GMT
A more refreshing change on route 95 would be Transport UK Electroliners Or Metroline could retain it with evosetis off the 4. Alternatively they could use them for a 105 bid. I reckon RATP have got 105 in the bag however 105 back to ML would be nice. Especially if the VWs are able to stray back onto it.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 11, 2024 11:21:49 GMT
I hope that Metroline vehicle with fleet number 3000 will not replicate an existing operation, in other words that it is on a type that will then be new to its garage.
By way of a true story, I rode First 33000, formerly London TN1000, in Glasgow in 2011.
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Post by LK65EBO on Aug 11, 2024 12:16:11 GMT
As mentioned on LOTS Metroline has ordered 108 new buses (of 3 types) for routes 4, 90, 98, 153, E2 and E8. It has also allocated fleet numbers to the 102 buses that are already on order, taking the number series up to 3030. Full details will be in TLB720.
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Post by adl on Aug 11, 2024 12:29:26 GMT
As mentioned on LOTS Metroline has ordered 108 new buses (of 3 types) for routes 4, 90, 98, 153, E2 and E8. It has also allocated fleet numbers to the 102 buses that are already on order, taking the number series up to 3030. Full details will be in TLB720. 3 types will be 1 SD, 2 DD. At a guess I’d imagine it’s BDEs and WDEs, E2, E8 and 90, Id imagine as WDEs with the 98 having BDEs ordered. 153 I’m not sure could be BZLs, BYD E200 or a Kite. I think it will be a BE if the route is going into HT keeping it all BYD/ADL.
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Post by DE20106 on Aug 11, 2024 15:59:44 GMT
As mentioned on LOTS Metroline has ordered 108 new buses (of 3 types) for routes 4, 90, 98, 153, E2 and E8. It has also allocated fleet numbers to the 102 buses that are already on order, taking the number series up to 3030. Full details will be in TLB720. Oooo can’t wait to see what types for each route. It says three types so here’s my guess: 4 - BDEs 90, E2 & E8 - WDEs 98 and 153 - BZLs Praying to see more BZL DDs, I’m besotted with the Stagecoach ones on the 58
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Aug 11, 2024 16:11:10 GMT
As mentioned on LOTS Metroline has ordered 108 new buses (of 3 types) for routes 4, 90, 98, 153, E2 and E8. It has also allocated fleet numbers to the 102 buses that are already on order, taking the number series up to 3030. Full details will be in TLB720. Oooo can’t wait to see what types for each route. It says three types so here’s my guess: 4 - BDEs 90, E2 & E8 - WDEs 98 and 153 - BZLs Praying to see more BZL DDs, I’m besotted with the Stagecoach ones on the 58 That would make 4 types so I'm not too sure if that's what will be the case. I think it's BZLs for the 153 and a mix of Wright and ADL for the deckers.
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Post by DE20106 on Aug 11, 2024 16:20:17 GMT
Oooo can’t wait to see what types for each route. It says three types so here’s my guess: 4 - BDEs 90, E2 & E8 - WDEs 98 and 153 - BZLs Praying to see more BZL DDs, I’m besotted with the Stagecoach ones on the 58 That would make 4 types so I'm not too sure if that's what will be the case. I think it's BZLs for the 153 and a mix of Wright and ADL for the deckers. If I was to be a pedant I’d say not really, the BZL (like the BYD) SDs and DDs are really the same bus, they are mechanically anyway. One just has an extra deck plonked on top, I’d call them the same type but it depends how the LOTs message has been interpreted
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Post by adl on Aug 11, 2024 16:24:41 GMT
That would make 4 types so I'm not too sure if that's what will be the case. I think it's BZLs for the 153 and a mix of Wright and ADL for the deckers. If I was to be a pedant I’d say not really, the BZL (like the BYD) SDs and DDs are really the same bus, they are mechanically anyway. One just has an extra deck plonked on top, I’d call them the same type but it depends how the LOTs message has been interpreted I can’t see the BZLs ordered the 98 I recon will be BDEs.
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Post by ADH45258 on Aug 11, 2024 17:18:41 GMT
As mentioned on LOTS Metroline has ordered 108 new buses (of 3 types) for routes 4, 90, 98, 153, E2 and E8. It has also allocated fleet numbers to the 102 buses that are already on order, taking the number series up to 3030. Full details will be in TLB720. Oooo can’t wait to see what types for each route. It says three types so here’s my guess: 4 - BDEs 90, E2 & E8 - WDEs 98 and 153 - BZLs Praying to see more BZL DDs, I’m besotted with the Stagecoach ones on the 58 I can't see Metroline order many more BZLs. It seemed an obvious option given their preference for Volvo diesels and hybrids, however they had a BZL DD demonstrator a while back, and didn't result in any orders. While it was never used in public service, it had been seen route testing for some routes including the 142. And with the SD version - beyond the initial order, Metroline have only purchased more batches for PB and WJ, where they had already been introduced, so could just be for standardisation. I would have expected BZLs for the 143/C11, but they are getting GB Kites instead.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 11, 2024 19:31:05 GMT
As mentioned on LOTS Metroline has ordered 108 new buses (of 3 types) for routes 4, 90, 98, 153, E2 and E8. It has also allocated fleet numbers to the 102 buses that are already on order, taking the number series up to 3030. Full details will be in TLB720. Oooo can’t wait to see what types for each route. It says three types so here’s my guess: 4 - BDEs 90, E2 & E8 - WDEs 98 and 153 - BZLs Praying to see more BZL DDs, I’m besotted with the Stagecoach ones on the 58 Lets play this game 4 - I think more BDE's as well or the equivalent ADL intregal, whatever Metroline decide to call it in terms of class code 90, E2 & E8 - again, agree with you regarding WDE's 98 & 153 - I don't see any double deck BZL's myself for the 98 but I'm torn between more BDE's/ADL's or WDE's for it, 153 I think we'll see more BZL single deckers though
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