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Post by M1104 on Jul 10, 2020 10:32:08 GMT
I had no idea the 49 and 295 were operated by Go Ahead!! Wow thats interesting I wonder from what garage. The 209 is one you could say as it also serves Hammersmith. 49 and 295 ran from Stockwell ....and Battersea (BB) before it closed in 1998, the 49 then having dual depot operation.
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Post by redexpress on Jul 10, 2020 10:33:40 GMT
I had no idea the 49 and 295 were operated by Go Ahead!! Wow thats interesting I wonder from what garage. The 209 is one you could say as it also serves Hammersmith. 49 and 295 ran from Stockwell At the time when Go-Ahead bought LG the 295 was operated from the Battersea base; it moved to Stockwell when Battersea closed in 1998. Battersea also had a part allocation on the 49 for a while (1996-1998).
I was going to include the 209 but it had already been cut back south of the river when LG took over, so not sure if it still counts as West London or just South-West London!
EDIT: M1104 posted while I was typing!
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Post by M1104 on Jul 10, 2020 10:38:22 GMT
49 and 295 ran from Stockwell At the time when Go-Ahead bought LG the 295 was operated from the Battersea base; it moved to Stockwell when Battersea closed in 1998. Battersea also had a part allocation on the 49 for a while (1996-1998).
I was going to include the 209 but it had already been cut back south of the river when LG took over, so not sure if it still counts as West London or just South-West London!
EDIT: M1104 posted while I was typing!
However yours is better detailed
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Post by M1104 on Jul 10, 2020 10:44:50 GMT
Depends how you define the area. I'd call Hammersmith and Shepherd's Bush "inner West London" so you could include 49, 211, 295, 485 as well. I had no idea the 49 and 295 were operated by Go Ahead!! Incidentally they also used to do the 211, the route then using single doored Dennis Darts
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2020 12:24:11 GMT
Are there any Go Ahead routes which have reached inner nw/w london as of 2010? Im guessing it’s just the 232 and N11 at Neasden and Ealing. Does the X26 count as it serves Heathrow? Yes as Heathrow is in West London
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Post by vjaska on Jul 10, 2020 13:20:46 GMT
Does the X26 count as it serves Heathrow? Yes as Heathrow is in West London Heathrow is outer London rather than inner London which is what the original poster asked about.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 11, 2020 6:02:51 GMT
Unless the range is massively extended then certainly not as daily mileage for a 358 duty is way above what a SEe can manage. I personally am holding out for Hydrogen buses since they're perfect for that route. As Go North East are about to receive Yutongs, maybe GA will wait and see how they perform in service for the first few weeks then, all being well order Yutongs for London route 358? Some unrelated trivia is that one of the forthcoming Yutong routes, route 58, had ex-London Citaro bendis for a while. I even rode one in 2012.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 6:42:06 GMT
Unless the range is massively extended then certainly not as daily mileage for a 358 duty is way above what a SEe can manage. I personally am holding out for Hydrogen buses since they're perfect for that route. As Go North East are about to receive Yutongs, maybe GA will wait and see how they perform in service for the first few weeks then, all being well order Yutongs for London route 358? Some unrelated trivia is that one of the forthcoming Yutong routes, route 58, had ex-London Citaro bendis for a while. I even rode one in 2012. Except GA don’t use a National structure like other big operators. They don’t order as a group and are largely separated between companies. Although this has changed slightly as GA had grown as far as I am aware they still don’t follow each other with orders unlike Stagecoach or First for example.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Jul 11, 2020 6:50:39 GMT
As Go North East are about to receive Yutongs, maybe GA will wait and see how they perform in service for the first few weeks then, all being well order Yutongs for London route 358? Some unrelated trivia is that one of the forthcoming Yutong routes, route 58, had ex-London Citaro bendis for a while. I even rode one in 2012. Except GA don’t use a National structure like other big operators. They don’t order as a group and are largely separated between companies. Although this has changed slightly as GA had grown as far as I am aware they still don’t follow each other with orders unlike Stagecoach or First for example. You are right that GA subsidiaries mostly order vehicles separately. Admittedly 9 new StreetDecks ordered by Go North East have recently been diverted to Oxford. Many years ago a corporate batch of Darts - Marshall were ordered by GA for Brighton, Oxford and Sunderland. What I am predicting is that GA London will liaise with Go North East for feedback on the performance of their imminent Yutongs.
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Post by snowman on Jul 11, 2020 8:33:43 GMT
Unless the range is massively extended then certainly not as daily mileage for a 358 duty is way above what a SEe can manage. I personally am holding out for Hydrogen buses since they're perfect for that route. As Go North East are about to receive Yutongs, maybe GA will wait and see how they perform in service for the first few weeks then, all being well order Yutongs for London route 358? Some unrelated trivia is that one of the forthcoming Yutong routes, route 58, had ex-London Citaro bendis for a while. I even rode one in 2012. Battery technology has improved since early SEe (they even had diesel heaters) The 358 has full size 12m buses so lots of choice, some like the Citaro electric have optional extra batteries (standard is 4, but can have 6 or 8) So I don’t think range will be a problem if properly spec’d
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Post by 10121ddo on Jul 11, 2020 9:02:57 GMT
Saw E68 LX57CJO heading up Chinford Lane yesterday, from Woodford High Road towards Chinford Hatch.
Any idea what it was going up there for? (Around 15:20)
EDIT: I've just thought of something: it was looping up Friday Hill and back down Whitehall Road to the bus stop at Bancroft's to do the 679? It seems the 679 isn't tracking, but I saw BG59FXA WVN24 parked on Broadmead Road too, shortly afterwards.
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Post by Gellico on Jul 13, 2020 1:03:24 GMT
As Go North East are about to receive Yutongs, maybe GA will wait and see how they perform in service for the first few weeks then, all being well order Yutongs for London route 358? Some unrelated trivia is that one of the forthcoming Yutong routes, route 58, had ex-London Citaro bendis for a while. I even rode one in 2012. Battery technology has improved since early SEe (they even had diesel heaters) The 358 has full size 12m buses so lots of choice, some like the Citaro electric have optional extra batteries (standard is 4, but can have 6 or 8) So I don’t think range will be a problem if properly spec’d The removal of the diesel heaters and implementation of the air pump for heating/cooling puts more strain on the capacity, if there has been such development to further extend the range then we would of heard about it. It isn't a case of whether BYD or Yutong can offer an extra 5 miles it needs to be substantially more which just does not exist commercially. Hydrogen's please, that'll be the main technology in 10 years , Lithium based batteries will be old news.
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Post by DOE27 on Jul 13, 2020 7:43:57 GMT
X68 has resumed service
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 8:48:13 GMT
Excellent, great to see services returning.
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Post by northlondonbuses on Jul 13, 2020 9:27:16 GMT
I have a question how come Go ahead got to keep their grey skirt on their WVLs/Es but Other companys couldnt apart from Arriva with their T199
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