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Post by bustavane on Sept 22, 2020 15:50:29 GMT
Just to clarify, would that then mean that the 352 is allocated 6 WS & 1 of the 65 reg SE's with the 354 allocated the rest of the 65 reg SE's as a result of the 354's failed route test in regards to using WS's? Probably is the case, unless WS46 is only on temporary loan to Uno, and eventually returns as the 456 spare. Can't see the problem myself, as MB are far from rigid with allocations of vehicle to routes. All the WS routes can and do take short E200s/E20Ds and 19 WS and 44 E200/E20D for a total pvr of 57 seems reasonable, especially given routes R2, R9 and 233 can (and do) take vehicles up to 10.8m, thus giving even more flexibility
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Post by ADH45258 on Sept 22, 2020 16:48:57 GMT
Probably is the case, unless WS46 is only on temporary loan to Uno, and eventually returns as the 456 spare. Can't see the problem myself, as MB are far from rigid with allocations of vehicle to routes. All the WS routes can and do take short E200s/E20Ds and 19 WS and 44 E200/E20D for a total pvr of 57 seems reasonable, especially given routes R2, R9 and 233 can (and do) take vehicles up to 10.8m, thus giving even more flexibility The R2 & R9 are allocated longer vehicles (64reg SEs and 11reg ex-MB respectively).
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Post by vjaska on Sept 22, 2020 17:36:08 GMT
Just to clarify, would that then mean that the 352 is allocated 6 WS & 1 of the 65 reg SE's with the 354 allocated the rest of the 65 reg SE's as a result of the 354's failed route test in regards to using WS's? Probably is the case, unless WS46 is only on temporary loan to Uno, and eventually returns as the 456 spare. Ex WS46 is only on loan to Uno, it’s expected to depart when the 395 school working is finished. I don’t think it’s on loan from Go-Ahead but from the leasing company.
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 22, 2020 21:00:18 GMT
Can't see the problem myself, as MB are far from rigid with allocations of vehicle to routes. All the WS routes can and do take short E200s/E20Ds and 19 WS and 44 E200/E20D for a total pvr of 57 seems reasonable, especially given routes R2, R9 and 233 can (and do) take vehicles up to 10.8m, thus giving even more flexibility The R2 & R9 are allocated longer vehicles (64reg SEs and 11reg ex-MB respectively). The R11 is also allocated longer vehicles. WSs cannot fit round all routes so no surprise they are kept mainly on 352 R3 & R6. Occasionally they work the R2 R4 & R9. I’ve never seen them stray on anything else but I’m aware they have been on 162 & 233.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 23, 2020 5:31:51 GMT
The R2 & R9 are allocated longer vehicles (64reg SEs and 11reg ex-MB respectively). The R11 is also allocated longer vehicles. WSs cannot fit round all routes so no surprise they are kept mainly on 352 R3 & R6. Occasionally they work the R2 R4 & R9. I’ve never seen them stray on anything else but I’m aware they have been on 162 & 233. There was a WS on the R1 recently doing the pm school journey that terminates at Orpington Station although this normally seems to be covered by a double decker.
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Post by bustavane on Sept 23, 2020 8:56:34 GMT
Probably is the case, unless WS46 is only on temporary loan to Uno, and eventually returns as the 456 spare. Ex WS46 is only on loan to Uno, it’s expected to depart when the 395 school working is finished. I don’t think it’s on loan from Go-Ahead but from the leasing company. Do GAL still have the 3 commercial fleet WS (35/6, 38) that were used on the 'Here East' contract?
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 23, 2020 10:23:36 GMT
Ex WS46 is only on loan to Uno, it’s expected to depart when the 395 school working is finished. I don’t think it’s on loan from Go-Ahead but from the leasing company. Do GAL still have the 3 commercial fleet WS (35/6, 38) that were used on the 'Here East' contract? I believe they do although SE26 and MEC14 have recently been refurbished for the HereEast shuttle
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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 23, 2020 22:53:19 GMT
I was just wondering why the 119 ended up losing its WHVs for a couple of weeks when the 405 was lost? I would have assumed the 202 took the older buses until it moved to Arriva? or does the 202 run a long a green corridor?
Also been meaning to ask is there any reason the Metrobus fleet has never been renumbered into the London style fleet codes? noticed MB garage has a mixture of fleet numbers SExxx or 7XX.
Because the WHV's were required for the RR school routes before the school extras began on 1st September and there were enough of the 405's E's spare to cover their early release from the 202. There were never any plans to renumber the Metrobus fleet, although they did internally gain fleet prefixes (for example the E200's SE's, OmniDekka's SO's, OmniCity DD's SOC's and perhaps the strangest one was the OmniCity SD's being known as SOK's). The current GAL fleet codes were only applied to all new Metrobus vehicles delivered after Metrobus's London ops passed to Go-Ahead's control, the first of these being the 39 WHV's for the 119, 202 and 405, the 358's MEC's and 352's SE's.
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Post by COBO on Sept 24, 2020 0:36:58 GMT
What is allocated to the 352 for its new contract?
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 24, 2020 6:22:44 GMT
Officials SE's but unofficially now WS's. Not sure if permanent or whether works will be done to the road junction to allow the WS's to run on the 354 instead.
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Post by DT 11 on Sept 24, 2020 9:39:42 GMT
Officials SE's but unofficially now WS's. Not sure if permanent or whether works will be done to the road junction to allow the WS's to run on the 354 instead. I would be surprised if that is done, MB have got round it by swapping the allocations over between 352 & 354. Vehicles were built the same year so it isn’t much of an issue I would say. The R4 was meant to get WSs however the R3 got them instead.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 24, 2020 11:35:16 GMT
What is allocated to the 352 for its new contract? The 352 is allocated some of the ex 192 WS's whilst it's 65 reg SE's went to the 354.
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Post by LJ17THF on Sept 24, 2020 17:37:51 GMT
Was out for a walk earlier today in Thamesmead where I happened to bump into SE87 YX11CPK. Strangely, it now wears a red & cream livery, similar to the "General" livery on LT50. The bus was being used as a meal relief bus for BX drivers (244 changeovers happen nearby). Normally SE85 does this job, but BX can send out anything that's available I suppose. (WVL83 has been used for meal relief in the past) Here are photos I took of the bus standing on Central Way, Thamesmead, on the bridge just beyond the B11 terminus. View AttachmentView AttachmentAnd another photo of SE87 by bus photographer Bexleybus on Flickr - www.flickr.com/photos/61008783@N06/50375001022/Also interesting to note that the bus is currently blindless, but it'll most likely receive LED blinds at some point in the near future. Looks very cool! If only TfL would allow operators to have their own liveries .
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Post by Busboy105 on Sept 24, 2020 18:30:41 GMT
Was out for a walk earlier today in Thamesmead where I happened to bump into SE87 YX11CPK. Strangely, it now wears a red & cream livery, similar to the "General" livery on LT50. The bus was being used as a meal relief bus for BX drivers (244 changeovers happen nearby). Normally SE85 does this job, but BX can send out anything that's available I suppose. (WVL83 has been used for meal relief in the past) Here are photos I took of the bus standing on Central Way, Thamesmead, on the bridge just beyond the B11 terminus. View AttachmentView AttachmentAnd another photo of SE87 by bus photographer Bexleybus on Flickr - www.flickr.com/photos/61008783@N06/50375001022/Also interesting to note that the bus is currently blindless, but it'll most likely receive LED blinds at some point in the near future. Looks very cool! If only TfL would allow operators to have their own liveries . Yeah I miss the variety each operator had. Now it’s just bland and boring.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 19:07:00 GMT
Does anyone know why SI garage never use the school bus SENs on routes 300/376 other than the school duties? they are blinded so thought that would make use of these buses instead of running for a few hours each day.
Also surprised the WHVs at RR havent managed to escape onto the 5.101.104,115 or 147 yet, guessing maybe drivers are not type trained.
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