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Post by southlondonbus on May 31, 2021 11:54:45 GMT
Given that AL is receiving MEe's I thought these might have been selected for A too, but evidently not now. Could be that both models are being evaluated at this stage. Sutton does have experience of Optare (admittedly very different technology between the DOEs and MEs) and the past tenders they have had one large type ordered different from the rest of Go Ahead.
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Post by dashing0ne on May 31, 2021 17:03:39 GMT
Could be that both models are being evaluated at this stage. Sutton does have experience of Optare (admittedly very different technology between the DOEs and MEs) and the past tenders they have had one large type ordered different from the rest of Go Ahead. Highly doubt GAL will willingly purchase Me's if A could have Ee's.
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Post by LondonNorthern on May 31, 2021 17:07:11 GMT
Always seems wet inside and very steamed up on bad weather days. Probably could have been remedied but being leased Go Ahead found to send them back and purchase the DOEs. A number of EVLs went straight to Go North East who were said to love them. In fact the last of them were only retired early this year. Preferred the VLEs though. Some are being used as school extras across the Go Ahead Group in companies such as Plymouth Citybus & Konectbus so definitely still going strong
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Post by SILENCED on May 31, 2021 17:40:29 GMT
Sutton does have experience of Optare (admittedly very different technology between the DOEs and MEs) and the past tenders they have had one large type ordered different from the rest of Go Ahead. Highly doubt GAL will willingly purchase Me's if A could have Ee's. You could have said the same about EVLs and DOEs before they were ordered ... so I am ruling nothing out. Both completely unique batches.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2021 17:57:51 GMT
Highly doubt GAL will willingly purchase Me's if A could have Ee's. You could have said the same about EVLs and DOEs before they were ordered ... so I am ruling nothing out. Both completely unique batches. Unique bodywork within GAL but the engines in both batches were/are widely used across the company. Given the limited space within A I think GAL, if they retain the 80/93/151/154, would opt for Ees with overhead charging.
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Post by TB123 on Jun 1, 2021 6:09:41 GMT
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Post by wirewiper on Jun 1, 2021 6:24:17 GMT
An interesting development, especially as it brings a new type to London's bus fleet. My main concern is: what happens if the service is disrupted and buses don't get to take their scheduled layover time at the terminals? Presumably Go-Ahead will need to build some contingency into the schedules.
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Post by M1104 on Jun 1, 2021 7:22:50 GMT
You could have said the same about EVLs and DOEs before they were ordered ... so I am ruling nothing out. Both completely unique batches. Unique bodywork within GAL but the engines in both batches were/are widely used across the company. Not just the engines but the undercarriage itself.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 1, 2021 8:43:05 GMT
Not before time ... been mentioned before. Surprising they are going Irizar, and even more surprising they are going for the ie Tram model rather than the conventional bus model. The article seems to switch between singular and plural, so assuming a whole routes worth will be acquired rather than a single example?
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jun 1, 2021 9:57:39 GMT
An interesting development, especially as it brings a new type to London's bus fleet. My main concern is: what happens if the service is disrupted and buses don't get to take their scheduled layover time at the terminals? Presumably Go-Ahead will need to build some contingency into the schedules. I would imagine that the buses would still have quite a sizeable range, so could probably take quite a few rounders before needing a top up somewhere. On the condition they make it to Orpington or Crystal Palace which should be possible, even in the worst of disruption then the buses should be fine. Worst case scenario the 358 also passes the garage where buses can be swapped out.
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Post by SILENCED on Jun 1, 2021 12:41:08 GMT
An interesting development, especially as it brings a new type to London's bus fleet. My main concern is: what happens if the service is disrupted and buses don't get to take their scheduled layover time at the terminals? Presumably Go-Ahead will need to build some contingency into the schedules. I would imagine that the buses would still have quite a sizeable range, so could probably take quite a few rounders before needing a top up somewhere. On the condition they make it to Orpington or Crystal Palace which should be possible, even in the worst of disruption then the buses should be fine. Worst case scenario the 358 also passes the garage where buses can be swapped out. How will controllers react when they give instructions to send a bus out only to be told it can't go yet as it needs more juice.
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Post by DT 11 on Jun 1, 2021 13:19:38 GMT
Is that design? Looks horrid
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Post by tbmlondon on Jun 2, 2021 16:03:16 GMT
Does anybody know when this pantograph trial will take place? Has a demonstrator been built?
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Post by tbe21 on Jun 2, 2021 17:17:12 GMT
From what I heard the trial will take place in sometime 2022. But im not exactly so sure about the official dates.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 2, 2021 19:47:49 GMT
From what I heard the trial will take place in sometime 2022. But im not exactly so sure about the official dates. So effectively that won't be untill the later half of 2022 that the 358 gets new buses. Unless the trial will be for a full batch.
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