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Post by TB123 on Aug 8, 2022 8:16:21 GMT
I suspect they will either directly or indirectly go to the 470 470 isn't cleared for 10.5, which these are iirc Notice the wording *indirectly*😉 470 can use that length too at present and previously had such an allocation with the DE fleet.
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 8, 2022 8:31:58 GMT
470 isn't cleared for 10.5, which these are iirc Notice the wording *indirectly*😉 470 can use that length too at present and previously had such an allocation with the DE fleet. Indirectly could be a swap with the Optares off the S1 for the 470.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 8, 2022 8:51:51 GMT
Worth noting SE294, 5 and 6 have not been used since the service changes on 16 July. Most likely the first to move on from AF following several buses being freed up on paper from said changes. Wonder what they will do next, upgrade G1's length maybe  ( They are blinded for it after all) The G1 was retained with its current SE’s and there isn’t enough 10.5m SE’s to convert it anyway. On top of that, longer buses can’t negotiate the Battersea stand and are always turned short at Clapham Junction
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Post by M1104 on Aug 8, 2022 9:21:52 GMT
You know how Q sometimes provides buses for night routes at other garages do they ever do the same with day routes? The garage has provided a bus to cover breakdowns on night buses for many years with suitable blinds. Necessary as services were/are infrequent. I assume Go Ahead are paid to do this now. This contract has always been specific and would not cover day routes. As well as breakdowns it also covers for any staff shortages, which could mean Q does the whole duty.
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Post by mkay315 on Aug 8, 2022 10:54:19 GMT
Mr Views from the upper deck really took it back to the 90s. M1104. You might enjoy this one. Route 155 from 1997 youtu.be/hP70b4sZ-I8I still remembered when stockwell still had the one way system. TBF, the one way system was only removed a few years ago 😂 😂😂 It's now made that area a bit congested. Especially with the red light traffic when the 345 turns right if it's going towards Peckham is such a pain as you have drivers who realise they're in the wrong lane and then try to switch lanes at the last minute.
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Post by vjaska on Aug 8, 2022 11:22:18 GMT
TBF, the one way system was only removed a few years ago 😂 😂😂 It's now made that area a bit congested. Especially with the red light traffic when the 345 turns right if it's going towards Peckham is such a pain as you have drivers who realise they're in the wrong lane and then try to switch lanes at the last minute. Completely agree, not a fan of the layout at all. Btw, do you or M1104 know when the Colliers Wood one way system disappeared? I vaguely remember it as a kid in the 90's when going on coach trips down the A24
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Post by lb99 on Aug 8, 2022 11:22:22 GMT
Just a quick question does anyone know if BX can take more electric buses at the moment with them soon getting B13 they would have to install chargers for it. With the 89 and 486 being up for tender next year and the fact both are high PVR routes I wonder if they could fit In more electrics in for both routes.
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Post by mkay315 on Aug 8, 2022 11:36:45 GMT
😂😂 It's now made that area a bit congested. Especially with the red light traffic when the 345 turns right if it's going towards Peckham is such a pain as you have drivers who realise they're in the wrong lane and then try to switch lanes at the last minute. Completely agree, not a fan of the layout at all. Btw, do you or M1104 know when the Colliers Wood one way system disappeared? I vaguely remember it as a kid in the 90's when going on coach trips down the A24 I can't remember the specific year unfortunately. I know from when that video was made I was more familiar with the North London setup especially visiting family in Edmonton
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Post by Unorm on Aug 8, 2022 17:17:59 GMT
The G1 was retained with its current SE’s and there isn’t enough 10.5m SE’s to convert it anyway. On top of that, longer buses can’t negotiate the Battersea stand and are always turned short at Clapham Junction Perhaps pedantic from me but for a time the 9.3m SE92/93 (surprisingly the first and only dual door vehicles I know to reach Shaftesbury Estate) were temporarily allocated to G1 when refurb float/gearbox replacement floats SE288-290 returned from SW to MB. After 315 left SW those 9.3m SEs saw less of G1 as 315's SENs became spare, not to mention SE93 leaving to C. Now with 322 also out, SE92 has no haste to see G1 again.
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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Aug 8, 2022 18:48:14 GMT
The G1 was retained with its current SE’s and there isn’t enough 10.5m SE’s to convert it anyway. On top of that, longer buses can’t negotiate the Battersea stand and are always turned short at Clapham Junction It was a joke, hence the emoji
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Post by ADH45258 on Aug 8, 2022 22:02:12 GMT
The G1 was retained with its current SE’s and there isn’t enough 10.5m SE’s to convert it anyway. On top of that, longer buses can’t negotiate the Battersea stand and are always turned short at Clapham Junction Not sure how busy the G1 gets, but could increase capacity if needed by cutting back to Clapham Junction, with something else taking over the Battersea section. For example, route 315 could extend from Balham to Shaftesbury Estate, via Clapham South and Clapham Junction. This would also provide some new orbital links to/from Clapham Junction.
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Post by borneobus on Aug 9, 2022 11:11:37 GMT
Apologies as this has probably been discussed before elsewhere. In short I recently travelled on the 346 on SE234 based River Road - is the 346 the route with the longest dead-run? (circa 12.5 miles River Road to Upminster) - thanks
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Post by abellion on Aug 9, 2022 11:23:57 GMT
The G1 was retained with its current SE’s and there isn’t enough 10.5m SE’s to convert it anyway. On top of that, longer buses can’t negotiate the Battersea stand and are always turned short at Clapham Junction Not sure how busy the G1 gets, but could increase capacity if needed by cutting back to Clapham Junction, with something else taking over the Battersea section. For example, route 315 could extend from Balham to Shaftesbury Estate, via Clapham South and Clapham Junction. This would also provide some new orbital links to/from Clapham Junction. The G1 copes most of the time, however the extra capacity could be useful at busier periods. In terms of new orbital links the 417 extension to Clapham Junction that was mentioned years ago should be revived.
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Post by M1104 on Aug 9, 2022 12:05:22 GMT
😂😂 It's now made that area a bit congested. Especially with the red light traffic when the 345 turns right if it's going towards Peckham is such a pain as you have drivers who realise they're in the wrong lane and then try to switch lanes at the last minute. Completely agree, not a fan of the layout at all. Btw, do you or M1104 know when the Colliers Wood one way system disappeared? I vaguely remember it as a kid in the 90's when going on coach trips down the A24 IIRC that 'particular' gyratory only came into effect from the late 80s/early 90s with High Street Colliers Wood reverting back to two-way by 2000. Christchurch Road (by the tube station and nearby school) and Priory Road then became two-way for the first time, Priory Road done so after widening from two lanes to four lanes. I totally agree about the new road layout at Stockwell as it also means that buses are now included in the banned right turn from Clapham Road into Binfield Road (for SW Garage).
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Post by southlondon413 on Aug 9, 2022 12:34:13 GMT
Completely agree, not a fan of the layout at all. Btw, do you or M1104 know when the Colliers Wood one way system disappeared? I vaguely remember it as a kid in the 90's when going on coach trips down the A24 IIRC that 'particular' gyratory only came into effect from the late 80s/early 90s with High Street Colliers Wood reverting back to two-way by 2000. Christchurch Road (by the tube station and nearby school) and Priory Road then became two-way for the first time, Priory Road done so after widening from two lanes to four lanes. I totally agree about the new road layout at Stockwell as it also means that buses are now included in the banned right turn from Clapham Road into Binfield Road (for SW Garage). Would Christchurch Road have gone two way around the time they removed the frankly dangerous roundabout by The Tandem Centre? That would have been in the early 2000s.
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