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Post by lj61nwc on Jun 23, 2024 21:18:44 GMT
Surely the R routes would see the Enviro 100 EVs? The only alternative would be a Metrocity and they have no chance No London version of the Enviro 100EV is available yet. It just standard spec without tip up seats and with TfL equipment?
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2024 21:41:30 GMT
Phipps Bridge shouldn't be any issue - the section that rendered the Ee unsuitable was the Copse Hill double run as I understand it (presumably they have a worse steering lock than the many 10.7m Darts that managed this section in the past without issue) and an Electroliner would have no issue getting through there given Me's are a similar length (0.1m difference) and are the allocation. For the 280 itself, I suspect it will be more Ee's - so far, Go-Ahead have been rigid with their electric orders, only differentiating because the 200 needed something shorter than a Ee and the 358 needed something to go with the pantograph charging. It'll be the R routes where we might start to see something different be ordered Surely the R routes would see the Enviro 100 EVs? The only alternative would be a Metrocity and they have no chance That's literally what I said - the Enviro 100EV isn't the same as the SEe's currently being ordered so it's something different even if it's coming from the same manufacturer. As for your second sentence, unless you've got inside knowledge of Go-Ahead's ordering, I don't think you can say Switch or anyone else have 'no chance' of being chosen for the R routes. Do I think ADL are likely to be chosen - yes but that's not the same as saying someone else has no chance.
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Post by vjaska on Jun 23, 2024 21:44:25 GMT
For the 280 itself, I suspect it will be more Ee's - so far, Go-Ahead have been rigid with their electric orders, only differentiating because the 200 needed something shorter than a Ee and the 358 needed something to go with the pantograph charging. It'll be the R routes where we might start to see something different be ordered Since last order was confirmed publicly, they have trialled BZL, Electroliner and potentially are ordering 100 BYD Integrals, although both companies are tight lipped about deal. They have trialled the Electroliner as far back as the order for the 119 & 264 and over 150 Ee's have continued to poor in since. The only different thing we have is the 100 BYD integrals articles that you mention but even then, most orders are still trending heavily towards more Ee's
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Post by lj61nwc on Jun 23, 2024 22:17:38 GMT
Since last order was confirmed publicly, they have trialled BZL, Electroliner and potentially are ordering 100 BYD Integrals, although both companies are tight lipped about deal. They have trialled the Electroliner as far back as the order for the 119 & 264 and over 150 Ee's have continued to poor in since. Ah I see, I presume they brang it back just for 151 evaluation then?
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Post by M1104 on Jun 23, 2024 22:21:58 GMT
As the 200 when electric relied on the 57/131/280's buses every night, there could be logic in avoiding Ees so that there can be a wider pool of buses for the 200 outside of the 57's WHVs. I hope they do go for something new regardless There was a (very low quality) rumour going round with YouTube enthusiasts that apparently more MetroDeckers had been ordered for the 131. Obviously to be taken with a quarry-ful of salt, and don’t expect that for one second to come true given GAL experience with those Me’s Needless to say if that does comes through I was officially stage a protest 🤣 do not want those abominations on my favourite route I'm surprised the rumour's not more on Electroliners given EL1's returned for the third time, abeit on the 151
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Post by M1104 on Jun 23, 2024 22:24:44 GMT
They have trialled the Electroliner as far back as the order for the 119 & 264 and over 150 Ee's have continued to poor in since. Ah I see, I presume they brang it back just for 151 evaluation then? Presumably so given it's not been used on any other route from that shed so far. At this point the type (or similar length options) could be considered for the route over its intended Ees due to that ongoing issue at Worcester Park. I wouldn't totally rule out yet on some similar length buses for Merton's fleet practicalities
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Post by cl54 on Jun 24, 2024 5:37:40 GMT
No London version of the Enviro 100EV is available yet. It just standard spec without tip up seats and with TfL equipment? Not quite. TfL require an electric ramp. The vehicles currently available have a manual ramp.
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Post by kmkcheng on Jun 24, 2024 14:17:52 GMT
In the N&P
PK0001816 SN LONDON GENERAL TRANSPORT SERVICES LIMITED Director(s): JOHN HENRY TRAYNER, CHRISTOPHER McKEOWN, ANDREW DUNCAN EDWARDS, MATTHEW CARNEY, Thomas Joyner 18 MERTON HIGH STREET, LONDON, SW19 1DN New operating centre: UNIT 1, NEWTONS COURT, CROSSWAYS BUSINESS PARK, DARTFORD, DA2 6QL New authorisation at this operating centre will be: 27 vehicle(s)
I assume this will be the base for the fastway.
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Post by vxm on Jun 24, 2024 20:34:38 GMT
E119 has recently transferred to PM and WS87 has transferred to NX for route P4, does this mean the P4 will be allocated to the WS’s as the 39 has the electric buses and does this mean the 65 reg SEs will the replace the 14 reg SEs on the 170 & and the 61 reg SEs be scattered in different depots or going for withdrawal?
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Post by lj61nwc on Jun 24, 2024 20:45:08 GMT
E119 has recently transferred to PM and WS87 has transferred to NX for route P4, does this mean the P4 will be allocated to the WS’s as the 39 has the electric buses and does this mean the 65 reg SEs will the replace the 14 reg SEs on the 170 & and the 61 reg SEs be scattered in different depots or going for withdrawal? Yes WSs are going on P4, I think LVF admin confirm it on here before or something, they'll probably be scattered all over the shop but I think quite a few could get rid of the OMs if they're desperate to
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 24, 2024 20:51:46 GMT
E119 has recently transferred to PM and WS87 has transferred to NX for route P4, does this mean the P4 will be allocated to the WS’s as the 39 has the electric buses and does this mean the 65 reg SEs will the replace the 14 reg SEs on the 170 & and the 61 reg SEs be scattered in different depots or going for withdrawal? Good call I'd say. The 14 reg are. Abit on the knuckle for a late 2030 conttact end and we know WSs are considered too tall for the route. There should just be enough 65 reg SEs for the 170. That said I'd much rather have the Citaros from the 358 on the route for the length but also the Citaro ride.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jun 24, 2024 20:52:30 GMT
E119 has recently transferred to PM and WS87 has transferred to NX for route P4, does this mean the P4 will be allocated to the WS’s as the 39 has the electric buses and does this mean the 65 reg SEs will the replace the 14 reg SEs on the 170 & and the 61 reg SEs be scattered in different depots or going for withdrawal? Yes WSs are going on P4, I think LVF admin confirm it on here before or something, they'll probably be scattered all over the shop but I think quite a few could get rid of the OMs if they're desperate to The 14 reg would see out the contract on the S1 nicely being the same age as the OMs.
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Post by YY13VKP on Jun 24, 2024 21:17:28 GMT
E119 has recently transferred to PM This now leaves four of E100-E128 left at AL from the original 57 contract: E120-124, though unsurprising given the 57 and 157 are now receiving their full compliment of electrics. What do PM need these E400's for though?
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Post by vxm on Jun 24, 2024 21:23:00 GMT
E119 has recently transferred to PM This now leaves four of E100-E128 left at AL from the original 57 contract: E120-124, though unsurprising given the 57 and 157 are now receiving their full compliment of electrics. What do PM need these E400's for though? Probably refurb floats or something to cover for PM’s EHs and MHVs for refurbishments? And they’ve been using them on the 37 quite a lot lately since they’ve got transferred to PM
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Post by vxm on Jun 24, 2024 21:26:31 GMT
This now leaves four of E100-E128 left at AL from the original 57 contract: E120-124, though unsurprising given the 57 and 157 are now receiving their full compliment of electrics. What do PM need these E400's for though? Probably refurb floats or something to cover for PM’s EHs and MHVs for refurbishments? And they’ve been using them on the 37 quite a lot lately since they’ve got transferred to PM But they still have the WVLs from the D7 until the 157 gets their batch since 4 of them have arrived which the first 2 of them were on loan for route 132 to cover for EP6. WVL413 recently had a crash on Friday.
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