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Post by greenboy on Jul 23, 2024 16:38:43 GMT
The blinds display 'Croydon Collonades, Croydon Airport' now. I think the blind should just be ‘Croydon Colonnades’— Croydon Airport is irrelevant to the general public, and potentially misleading, as people may think that there’s an actual operating airport in Croydon which there isn’t I agree that Croydon Airport is irrelevant to most people but surely Purley Way Colonnades is fine?
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 23, 2024 16:51:30 GMT
Apologies if its been brought up elsewhere on the forum but why has the ultimate destination on C's Ee's on the 119 changed from Purley Way - Colonnades to Croydon Colonnades - Croydon Airport? Too many people know the area as Croydon Airport, so needs to be included.
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Post by SouthLondoner468 on Jul 23, 2024 16:52:19 GMT
I think the blind should just be ‘Croydon Colonnades’— Croydon Airport is irrelevant to the general public, and potentially misleading, as people may think that there’s an actual operating airport in Croydon which there isn’t I agree that Croydon Airport is irrelevant to most people but surely Purley Way Colonnades is fine? Purley Way Colonnades is also fine, but I think Croydon Colonnades makes more sense— that’s what it’s known as
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 23, 2024 16:55:33 GMT
I agree that Croydon Airport is irrelevant to most people but surely Purley Way Colonnades is fine? Purley Way Colonnades is also fine, but I think Croydon Colonnades makes more sense— that’s what it’s known as Not how I would refer to it or quite a few people I know. If it wasn't for the bus twisting there, I would not know where the Colonnades was and I have lived in Croydon the majority of my life. It that little retail park at Croydon Airport, that used to be the Water Palace that you never have a need to go to. It's not as though I am suggesting calling it the Purley Lido, at least the Airport buildings are still there and have a far longer historical connection to the location than 'The Colennades'. Why do people always want to erase historical roots?
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Post by ! ALEED on Jul 23, 2024 16:59:53 GMT
I honestly love the Ee's on the 262, all the LED blinds are quite good looking and don't look that bad, the LCD screens inside the bus are perfectly programmed and show information about the route such as '2 minutes to _ station', and it obviously looks better with the high spec interior.
Though I am upset that the buses no longer carry the Go Ahead logo at the front, I think I'll get used to it soon anyway.
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Post by greenboy on Jul 23, 2024 17:07:39 GMT
I agree that Croydon Airport is irrelevant to most people but surely Purley Way Colonnades is fine? Purley Way Colonnades is also fine, but I think Croydon Colonnades makes more sense— that’s what it’s known as I suspect a lot of people wouldn't know where Colonnades is in Croydon but Purley Way is obviously a bit more specific.
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Post by londonbuses on Jul 23, 2024 17:18:46 GMT
Purley Way Colonnades is also fine, but I think Croydon Colonnades makes more sense— that’s what it’s known as Not how I would refer to it or quite a few people I know. If it wasn't for the bus twisting there, I would not know where the Colonnades was and I have lived in Croydon the majority of my life. It that little retail park at Croydon Airport, that used to be the Water Palace that you never have a need to go to. It's not as though I am suggesting calling it the Purley Lido, at least the Airport buildings are still there and have a far longer historical connection to the location than 'The Colennades'. Why do people always want to erase historical roots? I'm sorry but the suggestion of calling it "Croydon Airport" is just as bad as calling it Purley Lido would be, both locations do not exist anymore. The blinds and i-Bus should show "Purley Way Collonades," its as simple as that. The use of the word Croydon could be misleading as it is not really in Croydon itself.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 23, 2024 17:30:14 GMT
Not how I would refer to it or quite a few people I know. If it wasn't for the bus twisting there, I would not know where the Colonnades was and I have lived in Croydon the majority of my life. It that little retail park at Croydon Airport, that used to be the Water Palace that you never have a need to go to. It's not as though I am suggesting calling it the Purley Lido, at least the Airport buildings are still there and have a far longer historical connection to the location than 'The Colennades'. Why do people always want to erase historical roots? I'm sorry but the suggestion of calling it "Croydon Airport" is just as bad as calling it Purley Lido would be, both locations do not exist anymore. The blinds and i-Bus should show "Purley Way Collonades," its as simple as that. The use of the word Croydon could be misleading as it is not really in Croydon itself. Many of the airport buildings exist, hell there is the Areodrome Hotel, which was the terminal building ... So saying it does not exist is untrue. The airport is still there, it just no longer functions as an airport. Not to mention a huge plane on display that served the airport. It would not be misleading as that is what the area is know as. Things like the Brighton Road to not go to Brighton, but is that misleading or confusing, no it is what it is called.
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Post by PGAT on Jul 23, 2024 18:53:09 GMT
I personally don't like the fact the word Croydon shows up twice in the same blind it feels needlessly repetitive
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 23, 2024 18:54:40 GMT
I think the blind should just be ‘Croydon Colonnades’— Croydon Airport is irrelevant to the general public, and potentially misleading, as people may think that there’s an actual operating airport in Croydon which there isn’t I agree that Croydon Airport is irrelevant to most people but surely Purley Way Colonnades is fine? Purley Way, Colonnades is fine the new destination looks so ugly and repetitive.
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Post by WH241 on Jul 23, 2024 19:19:49 GMT
DS have been fairly rigid with their allocation of EV (Ee263-Ee273) to the 262. In the last 10 days this is the only diesel/hybrid I can find working the route: GAL WVN3 LK59FEU 18/07/24 18:58 20:25 ...wonder if this was a log-on jobbie? This is to be expected for a few reasons :
The 473 is still at SI as far as I am aware and has not been confirmed if it can take Ee's so not mixing of types like when the 262 was using diesels . The 69 Ee's are manual blinds and don't believe they have received updated sets so can't mix with the newer batch.
I can't confirmed about the WVN but suspect it was a real working. Maybe a electric was having issues or a driver covered a 262 duty that was not type trained.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 23, 2024 20:34:12 GMT
I'm sorry but the suggestion of calling it "Croydon Airport" is just as bad as calling it Purley Lido would be, both locations do not exist anymore. The blinds and i-Bus should show "Purley Way Collonades," its as simple as that. The use of the word Croydon could be misleading as it is not really in Croydon itself. Many of the airport buildings exist, hell there is the Areodrome Hotel, which was the terminal building ... So saying it does not exist is untrue. The airport is still there, it just no longer functions as an airport. Not to mention a huge plane on display that served the airport. It would not be misleading as that is what the area is know as. Things like the Brighton Road to not go to Brighton, but is that misleading or confusing, no it is what it is called. It would be misleading because it no longer functions as an airport and if you stick airport on blinds, people will expect an actual working airport and not a museum. No one outside of enthusiasts that I’ve met call it Croydon Airport - my best mate has used the shops there and he calls it either Purley Way or Colonnades. Your example about Brighton Road is respectfully irrelevant to this conversation because people don’t see Brighton Road on a signpost and think Brighton but they do see airport and immediately think it’s an airport. The best blind IMO is Purley Way, Colonnades as it accurately describes where the bus terminates and by not including Croydon in the blind, it prevents confusion with people thinking they’ll end up in Croydon itself.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 23, 2024 20:40:15 GMT
Many of the airport buildings exist, hell there is the Areodrome Hotel, which was the terminal building ... So saying it does not exist is untrue. The airport is still there, it just no longer functions as an airport. Not to mention a huge plane on display that served the airport. It would not be misleading as that is what the area is know as. Things like the Brighton Road to not go to Brighton, but is that misleading or confusing, no it is what it is called. It would be misleading because it no longer functions as an airport and if you stick airport on blinds, people will expect an actual working airport and not a museum. No one outside of enthusiasts that I’ve met call it Croydon Airport - my best mate has used the shops there and he calls it either Purley Way or Colonnades. Your example about Brighton Road is respectfully irrelevant to this conversation because people don’t see Brighton Road on a signpost and think Brighton but they do see airport and immediately think it’s an airport. The best blind IMO is Purley Way, Colonnades as it accurately describes where the bus terminates and by not including Croydon in the blind, it prevents confusion with people thinking they’ll end up in Croydon itself. I think you hold a fairly dim view of the London public by some of those statements. I asked 7 people in the pub this afternoon what they refer to the area where the Water Palace was, 2 said the Colonnades, 5 Croydon Airport. It is a name of and area. Not sure how a name can be confusing. Lastly convenience to just dimiss counter arguments as irrelevant
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Post by DT 11 on Jul 23, 2024 20:48:31 GMT
It would be misleading because it no longer functions as an airport and if you stick airport on blinds, people will expect an actual working airport and not a museum. No one outside of enthusiasts that I’ve met call it Croydon Airport - my best mate has used the shops there and he calls it either Purley Way or Colonnades. Your example about Brighton Road is respectfully irrelevant to this conversation because people don’t see Brighton Road on a signpost and think Brighton but they do see airport and immediately think it’s an airport. The best blind IMO is Purley Way, Colonnades as it accurately describes where the bus terminates and by not including Croydon in the blind, it prevents confusion with people thinking they’ll end up in Croydon itself. I think you hold a fairly dim view of the London public by some of those statements. I asked 7 people in the pub this afternoon what they refer to the area where the Water Palace was, 2 said the Colonnades, 5 Croydon Airport. It is a name of and area. Not sure how a name can be confusing. Lastly convenience to just dimiss counter arguments as irrelevant They need to get with the times. Purley Way, Colonnades has been on display for a long time now. Sidcup Police Station is still used yet the place hasn’t existed for years… poor description of the area.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Jul 23, 2024 21:08:16 GMT
I think you hold a fairly dim view of the London public by some of those statements. I asked 7 people in the pub this afternoon what they refer to the area where the Water Palace was, 2 said the Colonnades, 5 Croydon Airport. It is a name of and area. Not sure how a name can be confusing. Lastly convenience to just dimiss counter arguments as irrelevant They need to get with the times. Purley Way, Colonnades has been on display for a long time now. Sidcup Police Station is still used yet the place hasn’t existed for years… poor description of the area. I totally agree with this, you can't keep holding onto place names that are no longer in use just because people keep calling ti something. You'd not expect the 321s blind to remain as Foots Cray Tesco if the Tesco ever closed so I don't see why this would be any different.
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