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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Jul 24, 2024 9:57:01 GMT
Heard from someone that Ee101 and Ee181 will be completing route assessments on route 200. "A route assessment was done to see if Ee buses will fit around the 200 route. Consensus was yes, a few tight areas but are able to fit, as a result there is a possibilty that one will be out in service in the near future. As I said, a possibility so this is not guaranteed, however they could be appearing on the route in the very near future." Can anyone verify if this is indeed true, and will happen? I mean if 10.8m E200 Darts manage on the route, I don't see why 10.9m E400 Cities can't, but I highly doubt the Metrodeckers will be binned. Might be down to the turning circle and the length of the wheelbase of the BYDs I've read that more recent BYD vehicles are 10.8m as opposed to 10.9m, perhaps this could mean newer BYD's (as opposed to the NP versions) can run on the 200?
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Post by M1104 on Jul 24, 2024 10:27:39 GMT
I believe they failed a test originally in the Wimbledon or Raynes Park area ( M1104 will probably know more being his neck of the woods) which led to the 10.5m Me's being ordered instead. Saw the post in question on Facebook, seems to have only been done so any spare Ee's can substitute single deckers as the Me's are remaining for the 200 judging by the comments from the author of the original post. I always thought the Mitcham terminus was what caused the Ee route test to fail? The 264 have used that terminus to turn around as part of its diversion when London Road was closed northbound between Fair Green and Figgs Marsh. It's also one of the route's curtailment points
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Post by M1104 on Jul 24, 2024 10:33:00 GMT
Might be down to the turning circle and the length of the wheelbase of the BYDs I believe they failed a test originally in the Wimbledon or Raynes Park area ( M1104 will probably know more being his neck of the woods) which led to the 10.5m Me's being ordered instead. Saw the post in question on Facebook, seems to have only been done so any spare Ee's can substitute single deckers as the Me's are remaining for the 200 judging by the comments from the author of the original post. The Atkinson Close/Copse Hill turnaround is the culprit, which the Mes can just about get around
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Post by ! ALEED on Jul 24, 2024 10:38:46 GMT
The 157 seems to be almost fully electric!
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Post by M1104 on Jul 24, 2024 11:21:25 GMT
Heard from someone that Ee101 and Ee181 will be completing route assessments on route 200. "A route assessment was done to see if Ee buses will fit around the 200 route. Consensus was yes, a few tight areas but are able to fit, as a result there is a possibilty that one will be out in service in the near future. As I said, a possibility so this is not guaranteed, however they could be appearing on the route in the very near future." Can anyone verify if this is indeed true, and will happen? I mean if 10.8m E200 Darts manage on the route, I don't see why 10.9m E400 Cities can't, but I highly doubt the Metrodeckers will be binned. I don't know whether that's correct or not but it seems a bit strange if Ee's were previously deemed unsuitable, apparently the Copse Hill/Atkinson Close junction is the problem. It remains to be seen what will happen to the Metrodeckers. It's been reported the Ees can get around if taken very slowly, which was presumably the case with the 10.8m SEs that guest starred over the years. The Metrodeckers mind you are said to still be returning to Merton (thus the 200) on an individual basis following their modifications and MOTs. Though the suggestion of Mes moved to the 151 is practically plausible Ees on the 200 meanwhile could be on occasions problematic around the Phipps Bridge area with night parking...somewhat like the N68 situation with LTs around Old Coulsdon.
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Post by vjaska on Jul 24, 2024 11:37:44 GMT
I believe they failed a test originally in the Wimbledon or Raynes Park area ( M1104 will probably know more being his neck of the woods) which led to the 10.5m Me's being ordered instead. Saw the post in question on Facebook, seems to have only been done so any spare Ee's can substitute single deckers as the Me's are remaining for the 200 judging by the comments from the author of the original post. The Atkinson Close/Copse Hill turnaround is the culprit, which the Mes can just about get around Just as I thought, cheers for confirming - if there’s a 200 expert, it definitely has to be you 😂😉
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Post by M1104 on Jul 24, 2024 11:58:12 GMT
The Atkinson Close/Copse Hill turnaround is the culprit, which the Mes can just about get around Just as I thought, cheers for confirming - if there’s a 200 expert, it definitely has to be you 😂😉 😁thanks!😎
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Post by southlondon413 on Jul 24, 2024 12:03:29 GMT
Just as I thought, cheers for confirming - if there’s a 200 expert, it definitely has to be you 😂😉 😁😎 It honestly surprises me that stop survived after the hospital closed. But then again developers probably just threw money at TfL to keep it. It probably wouldn’t have made much difference to the running time though.
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Post by londonbuses on Jul 24, 2024 12:06:08 GMT
It honestly surprises me that stop survived after the hospital closed. But then again developers probably just threw money at TfL to keep it. It probably wouldn’t have made much difference to the running time though. That double run ensures that all of Copse Hill is within 400m of a bus stop, if they got rid of it then parts of the area would be nearly 1km away from a bus stop.
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Post by southlondonbus on Jul 24, 2024 14:47:46 GMT
Im on DOE51 on the 80 right now!!.
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Post by london23 on Jul 24, 2024 17:00:04 GMT
There also seems a problem with the WSD's as well as the 44 has a lot of other buses on it every day.
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Post by abellion on Jul 24, 2024 17:07:42 GMT
There also seems a problem with the WSD's as well as the 44 has a lot of other buses on it every day. There have always been problems with them although I think that the average number of WHVs on the 44 has been creeping up gradually since SW took over. Absolutely not complaining, the WHVs accelerate so much faster, sound nicer and make the 44 much more fun to use The 155 has been using a lot of EHs every day for a while too.
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 24, 2024 17:15:02 GMT
There also seems a problem with the WSD's as well as the 44 has a lot of other buses on it every day. There have always been problems with them although I think that the average number of WHVs on the 44 has been creeping up gradually since SW took over. Absolutely not complaining, the WHVs accelerate so much faster, sound nicer and make the 44 much more fun to use The 155 has been using a lot of EHs every day for a while too. I think the chances are very high of the WSDs being disposed of when the 44’s contract renews. I think it’ll get new EVs as that seems to happen quite often with sole bidder tenders (can’t imagine anyone else trying for the 44), but even if it’s existing vehicles GAL have got a huge plethora of hybrid vehicles to use and replace them with. I was so happy when they got jettisoned to SW, so I don’t have to suffer them on the 131 anymore
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Post by greg on Jul 24, 2024 20:16:52 GMT
Seems all the dirty buses and nasty refurb bloats get chucked onto the 88, WHVs and etc
I travelled on EH15 coincidentally for my go and return journeys and it just felt ugly. Dirty, torn apart if you know what I mean, but it did have a louder iBus. I noticed the interior is more of a turquoise blue than the original batch, quite irregular and offputting. For a third journey, I caught WHV94 and it was gutless and slow. I had seen it broken down at Vauxhall at around the afternoon but it was the bus that took me back home from PHF.
None of the other SW routes gets this treatment observationally from my locals, 11, 44, 77, 87, 88
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Post by abellion on Jul 24, 2024 21:39:24 GMT
Seems all the dirty buses and nasty refurb bloats get chucked onto the 88, WHVs and etc I travelled on EH15 coincidentally for my go and return journeys and it just felt ugly. Dirty, torn apart if you know what I mean, but it did have a louder iBus. I noticed the interior is more of a turquoise blue than the original batch, quite irregular and offputting. For a third journey, I caught WHV94 and it was gutless and slow. I had seen it broken down at Vauxhall at around the afternoon but it was the bus that took me back home from PHF. None of the other SW routes gets this treatment observationally from my locals, 11, 44, 77, 87, 88 WHV94 sounds like an anomaly to me, the 155’s buses are almost always very quick. As I said above they massively improve the 44 and I quite like how they’ve taken over the 44’s evening service as the drivers are usually faster then. The 88 is allocated the older less clean EHs so it uses them, the 118’s and 337’s older Es are also somewhat dirty and tired so it’s not just the 88. The 11/44/77/87 all use newer vehicles, I can think of a few other garages where the older buses look terrible when the newer ones don’t so it’s not like it’s unusual
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