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Post by ServerKing on Jul 31, 2024 14:44:38 GMT
Overall this leaves 13 WSDs out of 22 operational, leaving 9 out of service. Also interesting to note that the history of this batch reveals that they had a much more reliable service history when they were at Merton, mabye due to the other classes at AL - however, if the 44 gets renewed it will probably be with the WSD's as these are bought, where some of the aforementioned hybrids are leased. Those WSDs could still be moved away for example to other parts of Go Ahead. Arriva already did similar with their SW class Streetdecks Brighton & Hove would be good candidates seeing as they have similar buses there already. I hope GAL repaint the likes of MHV9 soon as the buses running around with 'London Central' fleetnames in the heart of North London affects my OCD  A lot of the EHVs need a refurb too. Very impressed with what Bus & Coach did to Arriva's HV's fitting LED blinds and new iBus screens, I wonder if the Trim could do the same with the 476 batch? |
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Post by abellion on Jul 31, 2024 14:50:53 GMT
Those WSDs could still be moved away for example to other parts of Go Ahead. Arriva already did similar with their SW class Streetdecks Brighton & Hove would be good candidates seeing as they have similar buses there already. I hope GAL repaint the likes of MHV9 soon as the buses running around with 'London Central' fleetnames in the heart of North London affects my OCD A lot of the EHVs need a refurb too. Very impressed with what Bus & Coach did to Arriva's HV's fitting LED blinds and new iBus screens, I wonder if the Trim could do the same with the 476 batch? Didn't they refurb every EHV before they started running at SW in late 2022/early 2023? I remember pre-refurb overhearing a conversation when an EHV arrived on the 44 and someone said that he'd never seen that sort of vehicle on the 44 before. His friend said it must be brand new despite the dirty body, logos peeling off, 15 plate, trashed interior, blind stuck on 474 or some other random Docklands route, etc  |
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Post by bustavane on Jul 31, 2024 14:57:19 GMT
Brighton & Hove would be good candidates seeing as they have similar buses there already. I hope GAL repaint the likes of MHV9 soon as the buses running around with 'London Central' fleetnames in the heart of North London affects my OCD A lot of the EHVs need a refurb too. Very impressed with what Bus & Coach did to Arriva's HV's fitting LED blinds and new iBus screens, I wonder if the Trim could do the same with the 476 batch? Didn't they refurb every EHV before they started running at SW in late 2022/early 2023? I remember pre-refurb overhearing a conversation when an EHV arrived on the 44 and someone said that he'd never seen that sort of vehicle on the 44 before. His friend said it must be brand new despite the dirty body, logos peeling off, 15 plate, trashed interior, blind stuck on 474 or some other random Docklands route, etc Yes, EHV refurbs started before they got to SW - first one reported June 2022. IIRC they weren't done at H & D Trim either (Plaxtons?). |
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Post by ServerKing on Jul 31, 2024 17:22:16 GMT
Brighton & Hove would be good candidates seeing as they have similar buses there already. I hope GAL repaint the likes of MHV9 soon as the buses running around with 'London Central' fleetnames in the heart of North London affects my OCD A lot of the EHVs need a refurb too. Very impressed with what Bus & Coach did to Arriva's HV's fitting LED blinds and new iBus screens, I wonder if the Trim could do the same with the 476 batch? Didn't they refurb every EHV before they started running at SW in late 2022/early 2023? I remember pre-refurb overhearing a conversation when an EHV arrived on the 44 and someone said that he'd never seen that sort of vehicle on the 44 before. His friend said it must be brand new despite the dirty body, logos peeling off, 15 plate, trashed interior, blind stuck on 474 or some other random Docklands route, etc I remember seeing them on the 91 first of all with SW. A handful of 66 plate MHVs got a recent refurb with latest logo and NP codes, but the majority retain their Q and SW codes. Q never did send over another MHV, so it looks like WVN23 is here to stay, which seems odd. |
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Post by bustavane on Jul 31, 2024 18:14:14 GMT
Didn't they refurb every EHV before they started running at SW in late 2022/early 2023? I remember pre-refurb overhearing a conversation when an EHV arrived on the 44 and someone said that he'd never seen that sort of vehicle on the 44 before. His friend said it must be brand new despite the dirty body, logos peeling off, 15 plate, trashed interior, blind stuck on 474 or some other random Docklands route, etc I remember seeing them on the 91 first of all with SW. A handful of 66 plate MHVs got a recent refurb with latest logo and NP codes, but the majority retain their Q and SW codes. Q never did send over another MHV, so it looks like WVN23 is here to stay, which seems odd. WVN23 is (on paper, at least) the 657 school bus; interesting to see if it manages to stay to the end of the contract next March. |
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Post by london23 on Jul 31, 2024 21:34:52 GMT
Would the 132 work better following the 335 from the sun in sands roundabout to North Greenwich Station instead of going on the A102. If not do you think the 335 will get extended to Eltham Station.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Jul 31, 2024 23:11:42 GMT
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 1, 2024 5:53:58 GMT
Whilst It's still absolutely terrible the way it was reported yday morning was that is sounded like a bus driver had been stabbed whilst on duty. |
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Post by cl54 on Aug 1, 2024 6:03:53 GMT
Would the 132 work better following the 335 from the sun in sands roundabout to North Greenwich Station instead of going on the A102. If not do you think the 335 will get extended to Eltham Station. No to both. The problems with the 132 on the A102 are down to the Silvertown Tunnel works which will be complete next year. The 335 was introduced for the very large housing developments around Kidbrooke station. Empty buses are needed from there. |
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 1, 2024 7:33:55 GMT
Would the 132 work better following the 335 from the sun in sands roundabout to North Greenwich Station instead of going on the A102. If not do you think the 335 will get extended to Eltham Station. No to both. The problems with the 132 on the A102 are down to the Silvertown Tunnel works which will be complete next year. The 335 was introduced for the very large housing developments around Kidbrooke station. Empty buses are needed from there. Agreed keeps getting suggested the 335 should be merged with another route just because it is short particularly the B16. The 335 is very busy now because of the new housing. I’ve not done the Route in a long time however whenever I see a bus at Blackheath, Royal Standard when doing Route 202 it is never empty. |
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Post by DE20106 on Aug 1, 2024 8:51:45 GMT
Would the 132 work better following the 335 from the sun in sands roundabout to North Greenwich Station instead of going on the A102. If not do you think the 335 will get extended to Eltham Station. No to both. The problems with the 132 on the A102 are down to the Silvertown Tunnel works which will be complete next year. The 335 was introduced for the very large housing developments around Kidbrooke station. Empty buses are needed from there. Judging by how late everything runs nowadays I’ll be amazed if the Silvertown tunnel opens on time 😂 |
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Post by ThinLizzy on Aug 1, 2024 9:49:00 GMT
No to both. The problems with the 132 on the A102 are down to the Silvertown Tunnel works which will be complete next year. The 335 was introduced for the very large housing developments around Kidbrooke station. Empty buses are needed from there. Agreed keeps getting suggested the 335 should be merged with another route just because it is short particularly the B16. The 335 is very busy now because of the new housing. I’ve not done the Route in a long time however whenever I see a bus at Blackheath, Royal Standard when doing Route 202 it is never empty. I don't understand the fascination with merging routes "just because they're short." There's plenty of short routes, like the 335 or the new 310, that serve their function perfectly well without having to be extended elsewhere. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Aug 1, 2024 10:21:09 GMT
Agreed keeps getting suggested the 335 should be merged with another route just because it is short particularly the B16. The 335 is very busy now because of the new housing. I’ve not done the Route in a long time however whenever I see a bus at Blackheath, Royal Standard when doing Route 202 it is never empty. I don't understand the fascination with merging routes "just because they're short." There's plenty of short routes, like the 335 or the new 310, that serve their function perfectly well without having to be extended elsewhere. I agree short routes shouldn't be extended for the sake of it. But the length means there is usually more scope for extensions, if there is a need for additional links in the area. For example the E1 works well in its current form as a Greenford-Ealing shuttle, but if a new link to Osterley is needed, the E1 seems a logical route to extend. (Or in some cases it might just help a longer route to be made more reliable) Similarly with the 335, I think a short extension from Kidbrooke south to Grove Park could work well (in place of the SL4 proposal, which I'm not convinced by). Or the 335 could go through the Silvertown Tunnel to provide some new links north of the river. |
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 1, 2024 10:38:55 GMT
I don't understand the fascination with merging routes "just because they're short." There's plenty of short routes, like the 335 or the new 310, that serve their function perfectly well without having to be extended elsewhere. I agree short routes shouldn't be extended for the sake of it. But the length means there is usually more scope for extensions, if there is a need for additional links in the area. For example the E1 works well in its current form as a Greenford-Ealing shuttle, but if a new link to Osterley is needed, the E1 seems a logical route to extend. (Or in some cases it might just help a longer route to be made more reliable) Similarly with the 335, I think a short extension from Kidbrooke south to Grove Park could work well (in place of the SL4 proposal, which I'm not convinced by). Or the 335 could go through the Silvertown Tunnel to provide some new links north of the river. The 335 does not need an extension to Grove Park especially as the SL4 will start this link… |
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Post by DT 11 on Aug 1, 2024 10:40:18 GMT
Agreed keeps getting suggested the 335 should be merged with another route just because it is short particularly the B16. The 335 is very busy now because of the new housing. I’ve not done the Route in a long time however whenever I see a bus at Blackheath, Royal Standard when doing Route 202 it is never empty. I don't understand the fascination with merging routes "just because they're short." There's plenty of short routes, like the 335 or the new 310, that serve their function perfectly well without having to be extended elsewhere. Look how long the W7 has worked. |
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A lot of the EHVs need a refurb too. Very impressed with what Bus & Coach did to Arriva's HV's fitting LED blinds and new iBus screens, I wonder if the Trim could do the same with the 476 batch?
