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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Aug 2, 2024 14:33:03 GMT
I've had a quick count and think there are now 32 LTs (LT306-310, 405-427, 458, 459, 478, 512) for the 5 at RR. But also Q has nicked LT452 which was originally allocated to the EL1. So I think RR should need 2-3 more LTs. Looking at the numbers again, I suspect one EH is allocated to the 5 on paper which leaves 33 buses for the 5 which is perfectly reasonable and then the other remaining 17 reg not part of the 115 is possibly attached to one of the school routes.Should be 677 then as that has always been an MMC route. |
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Post by lj61nwc on Aug 2, 2024 14:33:44 GMT
Also, the YX65s on the 325 seem to be in good condition, so where will they head next? A lot of people originally said they would head to the P4, but is getting Streetlites instead? It been mentioned quite a few times upthread that the SEs were only covering on the P4 until 39 was electrified so WS could come. I think they are going to 170 for the new contract with one of the SEs already there but thats just a guess and not factual |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Aug 2, 2024 14:34:11 GMT
Anyone know when the 376 will get its intended electrics from NP, and when the 325 will take its actual allocation of electric buses? Also, the YX65s on the 325 seem to be in good condition, so where will they head next? A lot of people originally said they would head to the P4, but is getting Streetlites instead? It's widely tipped that those vehicles will go to the 170 as the YX65 batch of 20 would perfectly match its newly increased PVR of 18, and that route categorically cannot use Streetlites. |
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Post by ADH45258 on Aug 2, 2024 15:01:33 GMT
If this is the case there must be an awful lot of buses off the road or they chose not to run a full allocation on the 5. I am not trying to doubt anyone but surely if they have enough buses there would have been at least occasionally full LT allocation? I sometimes people are too hung up on paper allocations and not the day to day practicality of being able to provide a daily run out. Prior to the transfers they did have enough they had an excess of 3-4, the issue was they kept using up to 10 LTs on school routes each day, now the summer has hit they have taken the LTs away which has lead to E/EHs being used. Notably there are 4-5 early EHs either VOR or pending transfer to somewhere else, 1x 61 reg and 3x 13 reg. I’m wondering if potentially there are a few movements happening before schools return in September and also the renewal of the 115/5/15 contracts. Slightly off topic but I do wonder if RR may eventually move out the EHs in favour of WHVs from other garages with electrics replacing hybrids later in the year. The 650/651/649 are also up for tender which could be lost freeing up more WHVs, I can see the 304/104 receiving WHVs when some become free. The EHs are also very limited route wise due to their blinds and can only really work the 5/N15 outside of the their allocated route (115) That's a good point - there's no real need to transfer any additional LTs to RR until the school routes start again. Go Ahead generally don't seem to standardise types much, so with the EHs they could just swap for newer blinds that have more routes on them - for example from the diesels currently on the 101/473. The 304 has been terminated early and so the tender result is now due - Go Ahead could lose it to Arriva or Stagecoach. All three operators have some spare hybrids available. |
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Post by WH241 on Aug 2, 2024 15:17:18 GMT
Looking at the numbers again, I suspect one EH is allocated to the 5 on paper which leaves 33 buses for the 5 which is perfectly reasonable and then the other remaining 17 reg not part of the 115 is possibly attached to one of the school routes.Should be 677 then as that has always been an MMC route. Yet the route has pretty much been route bound with a 11 reg early WHV. What makes you thinks allocated a MMC? |
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Aug 2, 2024 15:20:40 GMT
Should be 677 then as that has always been an MMC route. Yet the route has pretty much been route bound with a 11 reg early WHV. What makes you thinks allocated a MMC? Apologies, seem to have misremembered reading that on here somewhere. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 2, 2024 16:19:33 GMT
Also, the YX65s on the 325 seem to be in good condition, so where will they head next? A lot of people originally said they would head to the P4, but is getting Streetlites instead? It been mentioned quite a few times upthread that the SEs were only covering on the P4 until 39 was electrified so WS could come. I think they are going to 170 for the new contract with one of the SEs already there but thats just a guess and not factual As I understand it, originally, the P4 was intended to keep the SE's when first awarded but that plan changed and instead it will be WS's. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 2, 2024 16:20:34 GMT
Anyone know when the 376 will get its intended electrics from NP, and when the 325 will take its actual allocation of electric buses? Also, the YX65s on the 325 seem to be in good condition, so where will they head next? A lot of people originally said they would head to the P4, but is getting Streetlites instead? That's because, as I understand it, the original plan was for SE's to stay on the P4 but plans change, as inevitably they do, and it's going to sadly stuck with WS's for the contract. |
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Post by BK15AZR on Aug 2, 2024 18:16:13 GMT
I've had a quick count and think there are now 32 LTs (LT306-310, 405-427, 458, 459, 478, 512) for the 5 at RR. But also Q has nicked LT452 which was originally allocated to the EL1. So I think RR should need 2-3 more LTs. If this is the case there must be an awful lot of buses off the road or they chose not to run a full allocation on the 5. I am not trying to doubt anyone but surely if they have enough buses there would have been at least occasionally full LT allocation? I sometimes people are too hung up on paper allocations and not the day to day practicality of being able to provide a daily run out. RR's LTs haven't been reliable to be fair, esp. LT391-416 which were originally allocated to the 15. It seems like there are constantly 3-4 off road from the batch, which may explain why we don't see the 5 being fully LTs yet. |
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Post by atb123 on Aug 2, 2024 18:50:48 GMT
NP to take over 299/389/399 tommorow, What buses could it use?
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Post by superloopsl7 on Aug 2, 2024 19:22:02 GMT
The YX65 Plates are available, so here me out:
Swap two of the P12's YX61's to Orpington, in exchange for two YX65s
Send some Metrobus Tiny tings for the sullivans routes - however - there is the ex- P5 bacth in the commercial fleet, so those could come back, the cream and maroon one, (i think they are SE89-96) or smth - someone correct me
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Post by lj61nwc on Aug 2, 2024 20:06:14 GMT
470 has 2 spare for pvr of 4 so one of these can go. S1 has quite few short buses (SE93, 233/4) which can just be swapped out for longer spare SEs.
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Post by Dad91 on Aug 2, 2024 20:06:53 GMT
NP to take over 299/389/399 tommorow, What buses could it use? Spare SEs if available 65s reg |
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Post by ! ALEED on Aug 2, 2024 20:29:59 GMT
Or maybe if the 325 is electrified as it's supposed to be, the YX65s could be used on those routes.
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Post by LondonNorthern on Aug 2, 2024 20:37:50 GMT
NP to take over 299/389/399 tommorow, What buses could it use? Spare SEs if available 65s reg They cannot fit around the 389 or 399 so I would be very surprised if that were the case. I suspect something shorter will be coming in in the interim. |
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