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Post by greenboy on Aug 4, 2024 9:08:01 GMT
TfL's decision to not allow the use of the commercial fleet vehicles on the routes taken over from Sullivan means that correct destinations and route numbers won't be displayed on most buses. The dot matrix displays are not high quality but commercial fleet buses were allowed for Covid extras. They’re perfectly fit for purpose and it's ridiculous that they're not allowed on ex Sullivan routes in the current circumstances. |
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Post by se10 on Aug 4, 2024 9:20:11 GMT
Havent seen this mentioned but when 280 was renewed 2 weeks ago the running number which usually start and end at GM with 5 hour break at AL has now been changed to have the break at A with the break now being 6 hours due to less deadrunning required, I assume driver interworks on another duty at A Sorry for asking, but I have the brain of a turkey sometimes - what does this mean exactly? Are the buses now coming from A for the 280 or just the drivers, or something else entirely? |
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Post by WH241 on Aug 4, 2024 9:27:18 GMT
TfL's decision to not allow the use of the commercial fleet vehicles on the routes taken over from Sullivan means that correct destinations and route numbers won't be displayed on most buses. The dot matrix displays are not high quality but commercial fleet buses were allowed for Covid extras. They’re perfectly fit for purpose and it's ridiculous that they're not allowed on ex Sullivan routes in the current circumstances. Perhaps they will have to change their mind when they realise how stretched operators are during the week day peaks and when schools are back in September. |
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Post by SILENCED on Aug 4, 2024 9:28:57 GMT
TfL's decision to not allow the use of the commercial fleet vehicles on the routes taken over from Sullivan means that correct destinations and route numbers won't be displayed on most buses. The dot matrix displays are not high quality but commercial fleet buses were allowed for Covid extras. Dot matrix displays are not of high enough quality, but pieces of paper are? |
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Post by greenboy on Aug 4, 2024 9:30:06 GMT
Havent seen this mentioned but when 280 was renewed 2 weeks ago the running number which usually start and end at GM with 5 hour break at AL has now been changed to have the break at A with the break now being 6 hours due to less deadrunning required, I assume driver interworks on another duty at A Sorry for asking, but I have the brain of a turkey sometimes - what does this mean exactly? Are the buses now coming from A for the 280 or just the drivers, or something else entirely? I would imagine this change is in anticipation of the 280 getting electric buses? I have heard suggestions that the 280 will move fully to A with the 151 moving to GM but that's not been confirmed as far as I know. |
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Post by abellion on Aug 4, 2024 10:07:22 GMT
Havent seen this mentioned but when 280 was renewed 2 weeks ago the running number which usually start and end at GM with 5 hour break at AL has now been changed to have the break at A with the break now being 6 hours due to less deadrunning required, I assume driver interworks on another duty at A Sorry for asking, but I have the brain of a turkey sometimes - what does this mean exactly? Are the buses now coming from A for the 280 or just the drivers, or something else entirely? I spotted a 280 doing a changeover in Sutton this morning. My guess is that that the day starts with an AL/GM driver, then they take their break from A with a changeover to an A driver at Sutton Green (which I saw), then resume from Sutton when the break is over |
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Post by southlondonbus on Aug 4, 2024 10:08:43 GMT
Sorry for asking, but I have the brain of a turkey sometimes - what does this mean exactly? Are the buses now coming from A for the 280 or just the drivers, or something else entirely? I would imagine this change is in anticipation of the 280 getting electric buses? I have heard suggestions that the 280 will move fully to A with the 151 moving to GM but that's not been confirmed as far as I know. Perhaps the 280 is going to take the buses intended for the 151. |
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Post by se10 on Aug 4, 2024 10:54:43 GMT
Ee251 showing on 200 - probably just a login or something, but mildly interesting still
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Post by lj61nwc on Aug 4, 2024 11:00:06 GMT
Havent seen this mentioned but when 280 was renewed 2 weeks ago the running number which usually start and end at GM with 5 hour break at AL has now been changed to have the break at A with the break now being 6 hours due to less deadrunning required, I assume driver interworks on another duty at A Sorry for asking, but I have the brain of a turkey sometimes - what does this mean exactly? Are the buses now coming from A for the 280 or just the drivers, or something else entirely? Essentially when the route moved from AL to GM, there was a bus that took a break at AL during the middle off peak period, however when the contract was renewed, they changed it to have the break at A instead as its technically cheaper due to less deadrunning. It's only 1 bus which isn't needed between peaks, with the driver probably taking a break at A before doing a changeover at Sutton Green as mentioned above. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 4, 2024 11:04:32 GMT
TfL's decision to not allow the use of the commercial fleet vehicles on the routes taken over from Sullivan means that correct destinations and route numbers won't be displayed on most buses. The dot matrix displays are not high quality but commercial fleet buses were allowed for Covid extras. Dot matrix displays are not of high enough quality, but pieces of paper are? Regardless of the LEDs, I’m surprised they were refused especially given it would have allowed the 389/399 to operate yesterday and it only requires one bus. The 389/399 also caters for a more elderly patronage. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2024 11:42:22 GMT
Sorry for asking, but I have the brain of a turkey sometimes - what does this mean exactly? Are the buses now coming from A for the 280 or just the drivers, or something else entirely? Essentially when the route moved from AL to GM, there was a bus that took a break at AL during the middle off peak period, however when the contract was renewed, they changed it to have the break at A instead as its technically cheaper due to less deadrunning. It's only 1 bus which isn't needed between peaks, with the driver probably taking a break at A before doing a changeover at Sutton Green as mentioned above. That's correct, also there are three Monday to Saturday and two Sunday duties covered by A drivers. The 44 has a similar arrangement with a few duties each day still covered by AL drivers |
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Post by lj61nwc on Aug 4, 2024 11:53:49 GMT
Essentially when the route moved from AL to GM, there was a bus that took a break at AL during the middle off peak period, however when the contract was renewed, they changed it to have the break at A instead as its technically cheaper due to less deadrunning. It's only 1 bus which isn't needed between peaks, with the driver probably taking a break at A before doing a changeover at Sutton Green as mentioned above. That's correct, also there are three Monday to Saturday and two Sunday duties covered by A drivers. The 44 has a similar arrangement with a few duties each day still covered by AL drivers Yeah I've heard about the 44 but couldn't confirm it 100% so didn't want to post. They have some interesting arrangements but I assume they're make sure the routes are operating at a low cost despite being in non optimal garages. |
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Post by M1104 on Aug 4, 2024 12:11:26 GMT
Ee251 showing on 200 - probably just a login or something, but mildly interesting still Appears to be just a login, although there's consideration of using them on route when necessary hence the evaluation recently done with them on route |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Aug 4, 2024 12:27:10 GMT
I'm a bit lost as to what vehicles work route 280 nowadays. I thought it was classic WHVs at GM outstationed from AL, but I have seen about other AL vehicles potentially covering. If so, I wonder which routes the WHVs cover instead?
Little has been said about MetroCities on route S1 for a couple of weeks or so, suggesting that a few are still in service.
It is reported that route 170 will be converted entirely to 65 reg SEs. While the early ones will surely be withdrawn, I wonder what will happen to the 14 reg examples.
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Post by abellion on Aug 4, 2024 12:32:20 GMT
I'm a bit lost as to what vehicles work route 280 nowadays. I thought it was classic WHVs at GM outstationed from AL, but I have seen about other AL vehicles potentially covering. If so, I wonder which routes the WHVs cover instead? Little has been said about MetroCities on route S1 for a couple of weeks or so, suggesting that a few are still in service. It is reported that route 170 will be converted entirely to 65 reg SEs. While the early ones will surely be withdrawn, I wonder what will happen to the 14 reg examples. The 280 uses anything from its own WHVs to the 57’s WHVs to the 131/157 WVN/Ls, the buses rotate in and out of GM from AL as necessary. I rode an OM on the S1 today, still a bit boring but unique nonetheless  |
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