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Post by DE20106 on Sept 11, 2024 8:56:12 GMT
A BYD BD11 has been spotted on a low-loader in Superloop colours. Presumably one for the SL4 which mustn't be far off starting now. Photo courtesy of David Vghuir on Londoner page Potentially unpopular opinion: I quite like that. The two tone red/white suits the disjointed upper and lower shape of it Also at least it’s finally a deviation from the endless humdrum tidal wave of Ees. Like it or not it’s certainly something different and interesting 😂
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 11, 2024 8:58:34 GMT
Photo courtesy of David Vghuir on Londoner page Potentially unpopular opinion: I quite like that. The two tone red/white suits the disjointed upper and lower shape of it Also at least it’s finally a deviation from the endless humdrum tidal wave of Ees. Like it or not it’s certainly something different and interesting 😂 I quite like it as well. I like the look of a huge windscreen that makes you feel slightly scared when up front.
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Post by BK15AZR on Sept 11, 2024 9:01:19 GMT
A BYD BD11 has been spotted on a low-loader in Superloop colours. Presumably one for the SL4 which mustn't be far off starting now. I'm now going to predict the 100 BYDs will be for 129, SL4, 22, 88 and 473. Would the numbers add up? I doubt if they're for the 22, 88 and 473 as think all of them have road restrictions that may make the longer BYDs unsuitable. I'd guess some are for the 101 and 321 rather?
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 11, 2024 9:02:36 GMT
22 - PVR16/TVR18 88 - PVR21/TVR23/24(?) 129 - PVR22/TVR24/25(?) 473 - PVR9/TVR10 SL4 - PVR18/TVR20 That's slightly over the 100 mark.....There is also reportedly some ADL models coming although unsure whether they are integral or more Ees Surely something has to come soon for the 151 so if it was the integral that would be suitable and possibly the 88 due to PHF. The 473 was also suggested to have an issue with longer DDs. I do think there’s a very good chance of some ADL integral vehicles coming for the 151 and 473. The 151 problem can’t be avoided forever and re the 473, I’m 99.9% the Ee’s would have come with the 262’s if it could take them. I always said even when the 473 was first awarded to GAL that a longer vehicle would struggle around the city airport forecourt
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 11, 2024 9:24:39 GMT
Surely something has to come soon for the 151 so if it was the integral that would be suitable and possibly the 88 due to PHF. The 473 was also suggested to have an issue with longer DDs. I do think there’s a very good chance of some ADL integral vehicles coming for the 151 and 473. The 151 problem can’t be avoided forever and re the 473, I’m 99.9% the Ee’s would have come with the 262’s if it could take them. I always said even when the 473 was first awarded to GAL that a longer vehicle would struggle around the city airport forecourt My money is still on the 151 going hybrid with the 57 keeping the ones AL took and the 80 taking the remaining allocation from Q. The 80 and 151 could then swap garages leaving A as a fully EV garage on paper. It wouldn’t be the worst thing and unlike a lot of EV contracts now the 151 isn’t massively inflated so the cost difference isn’t huge for the public purse.
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Post by WH241 on Sept 11, 2024 9:45:09 GMT
A BYD BD11 has been spotted on a low-loader in Superloop colours. Presumably one for the SL4 which mustn't be far off starting now. Well considering the tunnel is not even open I am doubtful they are for the SL4. Being local to the tunnel I am sure it will be communicated to local residents when the opening date is announced. As others have said it’s more likely for trial on other SL routes!
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 11, 2024 9:51:21 GMT
I do think there’s a very good chance of some ADL integral vehicles coming for the 151 and 473. The 151 problem can’t be avoided forever and re the 473, I’m 99.9% the Ee’s would have come with the 262’s if it could take them. I always said even when the 473 was first awarded to GAL that a longer vehicle would struggle around the city airport forecourt My money is still on the 151 going hybrid with the 57 keeping the ones AL took and the 80 taking the remaining allocation from Q. The 80 and 151 could then swap garages leaving A as a fully EV garage on paper. It wouldn’t be the worst thing and unlike a lot of EV contracts now the 151 isn’t massively inflated so the cost difference isn’t huge for the public purse. Plausible, but that only kicks the can down the road, also doesn’t A need a certain amount of hybrids for the evenings/93’s night runs? Haven’t fully kept up with what’s going on in Sutton land tbh
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 11, 2024 9:54:38 GMT
My money is still on the 151 going hybrid with the 57 keeping the ones AL took and the 80 taking the remaining allocation from Q. The 80 and 151 could then swap garages leaving A as a fully EV garage on paper. It wouldn’t be the worst thing and unlike a lot of EV contracts now the 151 isn’t massively inflated so the cost difference isn’t huge for the public purse. Plausible, but that only kicks the can down the road, also doesn’t A need a certain amount of hybrids for the evenings/93’s night runs? Haven’t fully kept up with what’s going on in Sutton land tbh No, both night routes are also fully EV. There is the occasional sporadic hybrid appearance but they are quite few and far between since they are now housed at GM. Having a lot of EVs and only a requirement of 6 overnight means A is fully EV capable at night.
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 11, 2024 9:55:58 GMT
My money is still on the 151 going hybrid with the 57 keeping the ones AL took and the 80 taking the remaining allocation from Q. The 80 and 151 could then swap garages leaving A as a fully EV garage on paper. It wouldn’t be the worst thing and unlike a lot of EV contracts now the 151 isn’t massively inflated so the cost difference isn’t huge for the public purse. Plausible, but that only kicks the can down the road, also doesn’t A need a certain amount of hybrids for the evenings/93’s night runs? Haven’t fully kept up with what’s going on in Sutton land tbh No. As it turned out the night services on the 93 and 213 have easily been covered by the Ees. I can understand why Go Ahead had concerns but I think the part allocations on the 57 and 119 have not really been needed either for that purpose.
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Post by TB123 on Sept 11, 2024 10:09:37 GMT
A BYD BD11 has been spotted on a low-loader in Superloop colours. Presumably one for the SL4 which mustn't be far off starting now. Well considering the tunnel is not even open I am doubtful they are for the SL4. Being local to the tunnel I am sure it will be communicated to local residents when the opening date is announced. As others have said it’s more likely for trial on other SL routes! Can't believe you've typed all that out for a dig about something beyond pedantic
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 11, 2024 10:37:14 GMT
A BYD BD11 has been spotted on a low-loader in Superloop colours. Presumably one for the SL4 which mustn't be far off starting now. Photo courtesy of David Vghuir on Londoner page Is it just me or does the seat in the top window at the front look more like the one Arriva and Abellio have used? It might just be that it's loosely covered with factory plastic.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 11, 2024 10:39:39 GMT
A BYD BD11 has been spotted on a low-loader in Superloop colours. Presumably one for the SL4 which mustn't be far off starting now. Well considering the tunnel is not even open I am doubtful they are for the SL4. Being local to the tunnel I am sure it will be communicated to local residents when the opening date is announced. As others have said it’s more likely for trial on other SL routes! Why would a trial bus be a) used specifically on a Superloop route b) come in a branded livery? It's very clearly for the SL4 as that route needed an order and they need to be prepared for an earliest possible start date.
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Post by southlondon413 on Sept 11, 2024 10:51:21 GMT
Well considering the tunnel is not even open I am doubtful they are for the SL4. Being local to the tunnel I am sure it will be communicated to local residents when the opening date is announced. As others have said it’s more likely for trial on other SL routes! Why would a trial bus be a) used specifically on a Superloop route b) come in a branded livery? It's very clearly for the SL4 as that route needed an order and they need to be prepared for an earliest possible start date. Seems to still be in China so could be a while before it actually arrives in the UK. I do believe that BYD does have their own RoRo ships but they could be full or booked months in advance.
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Post by M1104 on Sept 11, 2024 11:06:47 GMT
Photo courtesy of David Vghuir on Londoner page Potentially unpopular opinion: I quite like that. The two tone red/white suits the disjointed upper and lower shape of it Also at least it’s finally a deviation from the endless humdrum tidal wave of Ees. Like it or not it’s certainly something different and interesting 😂 Photo courtesy of David Vghuir on Londoner page Potentially unpopular opinion: I quite like that. The two tone red/white suits the disjointed upper and lower shape of it Also at least it’s finally a deviation from the endless humdrum tidal wave of Ees. Like it or not it’s certainly something different and interesting 😂 Would have preferred more modern headlight designs to that retro look cluster. However if I can get use to the 'angry' looking Mes I can get use to this. The overall tipping point for me will be its general performance and as a noise enthusiasts the melody of the motors. If that aspect's like the Mes (but more reliable) I'd then lean towards 'thumbs up'. I agree with you straight away on a couple aspects, the colour coordination doing it justice on its design and the potential deviation away from more Ees
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Post by southlondonbus on Sept 11, 2024 11:09:57 GMT
Well considering the tunnel is not even open I am doubtful they are for the SL4. Being local to the tunnel I am sure it will be communicated to local residents when the opening date is announced. As others have said it’s more likely for trial on other SL routes! Why would a trial bus be a) used specifically on a Superloop route b) come in a branded livery? It's very clearly for the SL4 as that route needed an order and they need to be prepared for an earliest possible start date. It's not illogical thou that the SL7 would be a good route for a trial due to concerns over its route length.
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