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Post by YY13VKP on Sept 14, 2024 8:45:13 GMT
According to a post on the LVF Facebook group, Metrobus 184 was involved in a head on collision whilst on the 138 yesterday morning.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 14, 2024 9:05:38 GMT
What route is this on? I can't imagine what route would need to use the SL2 for reliefs as a lot of the SL2s route is RR routes instead. I've seen some drivers use the SL2 to go to the last stop in North Woolwich. Unless they're probably local in Barking but this has happened a few times in recent times I would imagine these might be drivers who live in the area, I can't imagine there's any route they'd be used for reliefs on, especially with RR down the road.
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Post by WH241 on Sept 14, 2024 9:11:33 GMT
What route is this on? I can't imagine what route would need to use the SL2 for reliefs as a lot of the SL2s route is RR routes instead. I've seen some drivers use the SL2 to go to the last stop in North Woolwich. Unless they're probably local in Barking but this has happened a few times in recent times I wonder if its drivers moving buses between garages? There is almost a constant back and forward of buses from DS to RR. Maybe drivers find it easier to catch a EL from RR and then the SL2.
Just a guess and not saying that is the case......
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Post by bustler on Sept 14, 2024 9:55:14 GMT
Has there been official confirmation that the 188 is heading back to Camberwell and leaving MG?
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Post by mkay315 on Sept 14, 2024 10:04:28 GMT
I've seen some drivers use the SL2 to go to the last stop in North Woolwich. Unless they're probably local in Barking but this has happened a few times in recent times I would imagine these might be drivers who live in the area, I can't imagine there's any route they'd be used for reliefs on, especially with RR down the road. Perhaps
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Post by mkay315 on Sept 14, 2024 10:05:30 GMT
I've seen some drivers use the SL2 to go to the last stop in North Woolwich. Unless they're probably local in Barking but this has happened a few times in recent times I wonder if its drivers moving buses between garages? There is almost a constant back and forward of buses from DS to RR. Maybe drivers find it easier to catch a EL from RR and then the SL2.
Just a guess and not saying that is the case...... Potentially but at least that route is gaining more popularity now. Took a while but it's here.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 14, 2024 10:15:22 GMT
I wonder if its drivers moving buses between garages? There is almost a constant back and forward of buses from DS to RR. Maybe drivers find it easier to catch a EL from RR and then the SL2.
Just a guess and not saying that is the case...... Potentially but at least that route is gaining more popularity now. Took a while but it's here. Would be interested in seeing the figures. The SL2 seems to be doing well north of Ilford but ever SL2 I see at Barking in the rush hour is carrying air fresher than the Lake District.
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 14, 2024 10:43:50 GMT
Potentially but at least that route is gaining more popularity now. Took a while but it's here. Would be interested in seeing the figures. The SL2 seems to be doing well north of Ilford but ever SL2 I see at Barking in the rush hour is carrying air fresher than the Lake District. I think that was inevitable though. The North Woolwich area is pretty Baron with not much there, so its lack of usage at the southern end of the SL2 is unsurprising. I think it only goes down there for the stand space tbh and so TfL can call it a proper ‘loop’ separated only by the river
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Post by WH241 on Sept 14, 2024 10:50:54 GMT
Would be interested in seeing the figures. The SL2 seems to be doing well north of Ilford but ever SL2 I see at Barking in the rush hour is carrying air fresher than the Lake District. I think that was inevitable though. The North Woolwich area is pretty Baron with not much there, so its lack of usage at the southern end of the SL2 is unsurprising. I think it only goes down there for the stand space tbh and so TfL can call it a proper ‘loop’ separated only by the river I see pretty decent loading's on the SL2 at the North Woolwich end. I would probably say more use this than the 474 over the revised routing in the Canning Town area as a comparison.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 14, 2024 10:51:12 GMT
Would be interested in seeing the figures. The SL2 seems to be doing well north of Ilford but ever SL2 I see at Barking in the rush hour is carrying air fresher than the Lake District. I think that was inevitable though. The North Woolwich area is pretty Baron with not much there, so its lack of usage at the southern end of the SL2 is unsurprising. I think it only goes down there for the stand space tbh and so TfL can call it a proper ‘loop’ separated only by the river I do think sending it that little bit further to LCY would help ever so slightly with its pax numbers, especially as it employs a lot of people from the Barking area too. Not much traffic and minimal run time, especially for an express route. The other alternative might be to actually cull it at Ilford and extend it further north, reducing the time it spends on the A406 as well as then potentially providing new links. Heading south of Ilford the EL1 is more likely to turn up first and isn't much slower, if it is slower at all, and the 366 towards Gallions Reach has the benefit of using Jenkins Lane to escape all the traffic and I've frequently been beaten to Gallions Reach by a 366 from Barking too.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 14, 2024 10:52:10 GMT
I think that was inevitable though. The North Woolwich area is pretty Baron with not much there, so its lack of usage at the southern end of the SL2 is unsurprising. I think it only goes down there for the stand space tbh and so TfL can call it a proper ‘loop’ separated only by the river I see pretty decent loading's on the SL2 at the North Woolwich end. I would probably say more use this than the 474 over the revised routing in the Canning Town area as a comparison. The figures for the 474 show a notable passenger increase around the time of its rerouting, so unless the bit around Silvertown for the 474 was constantly empty I'd not be confident the 474s are actually empty down there.
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Post by DE20106 on Sept 14, 2024 11:14:42 GMT
I think that was inevitable though. The North Woolwich area is pretty Baron with not much there, so its lack of usage at the southern end of the SL2 is unsurprising. I think it only goes down there for the stand space tbh and so TfL can call it a proper ‘loop’ separated only by the river I do think sending it that little bit further to LCY would help ever so slightly with its pax numbers, especially as it employs a lot of people from the Barking area too. Not much traffic and minimal run time, especially for an express route. The other alternative might be to actually cull it at Ilford and extend it further north, reducing the time it spends on the A406 as well as then potentially providing new links. Heading south of Ilford the EL1 is more likely to turn up first and isn't much slower, if it is slower at all, and the 366 towards Gallions Reach has the benefit of using Jenkins Lane to escape all the traffic and I've frequently been beaten to Gallions Reach by a 366 from Barking too. Sending the SL2 over there would seriously overbus LCY though. The 473 and 474 are adequate, and the 129 is going there next year when the tunnel opens
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 14, 2024 11:21:36 GMT
I do think sending it that little bit further to LCY would help ever so slightly with its pax numbers, especially as it employs a lot of people from the Barking area too. Not much traffic and minimal run time, especially for an express route. The other alternative might be to actually cull it at Ilford and extend it further north, reducing the time it spends on the A406 as well as then potentially providing new links. Heading south of Ilford the EL1 is more likely to turn up first and isn't much slower, if it is slower at all, and the 366 towards Gallions Reach has the benefit of using Jenkins Lane to escape all the traffic and I've frequently been beaten to Gallions Reach by a 366 from Barking too. Sending the SL2 over there would seriously overbus LCY though. The 473 and 474 are adequate, and the 129 is going there next year when the tunnel opens However it wouldn't specifically overbus the airport as it would not follow any routes there apart from just the one stop. Overbussing usually happens in terms of many routes going to the same place, which the SL2 will not do.
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Post by bustler on Sept 14, 2024 11:56:19 GMT
Superloops ... Horrible livery, eyesores.
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Post by ThinLizzy on Sept 14, 2024 15:54:59 GMT
Would be interested in seeing the figures. The SL2 seems to be doing well north of Ilford but ever SL2 I see at Barking in the rush hour is carrying air fresher than the Lake District. I think that was inevitable though. The North Woolwich area is pretty Baron with not much there, so its lack of usage at the southern end of the SL2 is unsurprising. I think it only goes down there for the stand space tbh and so TfL can call it a proper ‘loop’ separated only by the river The SL2 does pick up a fair few passengers in the afternoon at UEL (and me on my way home from Beckton Depot,) but notably less during the Summer break. Theres usually a handful of passengers from North Woolwich. My journey in the morning is usually just before the AM peak, so not usualy when students are travelling down to UEL.
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