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Post by M1104 on Oct 19, 2024 14:30:05 GMT
I’m guessing the 321 will be the first route to run these fingers crossed, so I’m guessing all of the 321’s 2011/2 Es/EHs and MHV55/86 & WHV50 will be scattered everywhere or go to BX for a 99, 269 & 401 temporary allocation? Those Es could be prepped for the 217 if the EBDs enter service soon enough, which brings around the query on whether type training's already in progress with EBD8
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Post by M1104 on Oct 19, 2024 14:31:20 GMT
If they got rid of that black arrow around the driver's window, and painted the headlight surround black it might look better. I actually think it looks better with the driver window black surround but definately agree that the headlights should also have it
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Post by M1104 on Oct 19, 2024 14:36:57 GMT
Official allocation of the BYD B11E02:
EBD1-18 for route 321
EBD19-34 for route 333
EBD35-44 for route 101
EBD45-54 for route 473
EBD55-75 for route SL4
Source: LOTS TLB (October '24 edition)
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Post by DE20106 on Oct 19, 2024 14:48:53 GMT
Official allocation of the BYD B11E02: EBD1-18 for route 321 EBD19-34 for route 333 EBD35-44 for route 101 EBD45-54 for route 473 EBD55-75 for route SL4 Source: LOTS TLB (October '24 edition) So 75 ordered, and no indication of what the 129 will get 😳
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Post by M1104 on Oct 19, 2024 14:51:44 GMT
Official allocation of the BYD B11E02: EBD1-18 for route 321 EBD19-34 for route 333 EBD35-44 for route 101 EBD45-54 for route 473 EBD55-75 for route SL4 Source: LOTS TLB (October '24 edition) So 75 ordered, and no indication of what the 129 will get 😳 Presumably printed before news was available on that, like with orders for the 131, 280, etc
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Post by southlondonbus on Oct 19, 2024 15:05:58 GMT
So 75 ordered, and no indication of what the 129 will get 😳 Presumably printed before news was available on that, like with orders for the 131, 280, etc Now it's all but confirmed the 151 is going to get something new I wouldn't be surprised if the 280 took the spare City's.
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Post by ! ALEED on Oct 19, 2024 15:17:53 GMT
Presumably printed before news was available on that, like with orders for the 131, 280, etc Now it's all but confirmed the 151 is going to get something new I wouldn't be surprised if the 280 took the spare City's. I think the 151 is getting the Electroliners that are expected to arrive this year. 280 could take the spare Cities, but I think it will need an extra given that the 151 had a PVR of 14 buses whilst the 280 requires 15, so 17 TVR.
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Post by thewhetstonebusguy on Oct 19, 2024 15:22:13 GMT
My understanding is that the buses currently in build for NXWM will be the last BYD/ADL Enviro400EVs. It's been posted in another group by a reliable staff member that Metroline have ordered ADL ones. What?, like what the SL3 is getting or is it the ones identical to what’s on the 264
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Post by DE20106 on Oct 19, 2024 15:25:05 GMT
So 75 ordered, and no indication of what the 129 will get 😳 Presumably printed before news was available on that, like with orders for the 131, 280, etc The 131 is confirmed to be getting BYDs?! If that’s the case I’ve missed that somewhere
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Post by ! ALEED on Oct 19, 2024 15:25:27 GMT
Also I've noticed a lot of people talking about the 99, 269 and 401 which would require around 39-40 buses.
It's also likely that they will have a temporary allocation on the routes, and the 217 will also require around 12 buses.
With that being said, Go Ahead will have to source around 52 buses.
I can see: - WVNs from the 262 and 473 going to support. - WVLs from the 157. - Es from the 147 and 321.
BX is already electrified, and I could potentially see the 151's Cities going to the 269, and the 99 and 401 gain Electroliners as part of the 167 orders for London this year, which could include Electroliners for the 280/151. The reason why I say this is because I'm not too sure, but I think there could be a length restriction on the 280 preventing it from getting E400 Cities, but this is just pure speculation and I am happy to have a discussion about it!
The following routes were retained/awarded with electrics for Go Ahead [2024/2025]: - 188 - 360 - 444 - 171 - 172 - 99 - 269 - 401 - 280 - 131 - 22 - 88 - 355 - 320 - R2 - R11 - 299 - 389 - 399 - B16 - SL7 - 129 - 151
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Post by vjaska on Oct 19, 2024 15:27:59 GMT
Now it's all but confirmed the 151 is going to get something new I wouldn't be surprised if the 280 took the spare City's. I think the 151 is getting the Electroliners that are expected to arrive this year. 280 could take the spare Cities, but I think it will need an extra given that the 151 had a PVR of 14 buses whilst the 280 requires 15, so 17 TVR. If the total spares across GM & AL is enough in Go-Aheads mind, the 280 could operate with 16 vehicles.
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Post by vjaska on Oct 19, 2024 15:32:06 GMT
Also I've noticed a lot of people talking about the 99, 269 and 401 which would require around 39-40 buses. It's also likely that they will have a temporary allocation on the routes, and the 217 will also require around 12 buses. With that being said, Go Ahead will have to source around 52 buses. I can see: - WVNs from the 262 and 473 going to support. - WVLs from the 157. - Es from the 147 and 321. BX is already electrified, and I could potentially see the 151's Cities going to the 269, and the 99 and 401 gain Electroliners as part of the 167 orders for London this year, which could include Electroliners for the 280/151. The reason why I say this is because I'm not too sure, but I think there could be a length restriction on the 280 preventing it from getting E400 Cities, but this is just pure speculation and I am happy to have a discussion about it! The following routes were retained/awarded with electrics for Go Ahead [2024/2025]: - 188 - 360 - 444 - 171 - 172 - 99 - 269 - 401 - 280 - 131 - 22 - 88 - 355 - 320 - R2 - R11 - 299 - 389 - 399 - B16 - SL7 - 129 - 151 The 280 has no restrictions - it’s practically a straight route sticking to main roads apart from at St George’s and 10.9m vehicles already serve the loop with the 264. 147 has no E’s anymore, it’s mixed MHV & WHV. Any E’s are just covering for refurbs or are strays from other routes
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Post by vjaska on Oct 19, 2024 15:32:53 GMT
Presumably printed before news was available on that, like with orders for the 131, 280, etc The 131 is confirmed to be getting BYDs?! If that’s the case I’ve missed that somewhere The 131 order is still unconfirmed, same with 280, 320 among others
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Post by twobellstogo on Oct 19, 2024 15:38:54 GMT
Official allocation of the BYD B11E02: EBD1-18 for route 321 EBD19-34 for route 333 EBD35-44 for route 101 EBD45-54 for route 473 EBD55-75 for route SL4 Source: LOTS TLB (October '24 edition) Nice info - thanks for this. Will SW be ready to take these EBDs though, or will they operate elsewhere temporarily?
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Post by M1104 on Oct 19, 2024 15:40:13 GMT
Presumably printed before news was available on that, like with orders for the 131, 280, etc The 131 is confirmed to be getting BYDs?! If that’s the case I’ve missed that somewhere No I mean whatever's planned for the 129 hadn't yet been released at time of printing, putting it in the same boat as the 131, 280, etc on that
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