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Post by atb123 on Oct 23, 2024 19:33:15 GMT
So true. What has happened with the 262 WVNs, ever since its been fully electric? Seems to be a mix of DS school routes and rotating on the 473 Seems likely that those WVNs and some spare from other garages can make the 217 PVR |
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Post by DW221 on Oct 23, 2024 19:34:16 GMT
WVL293 has arrived at NP garage for route learning on 217s
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Post by WH241 on Oct 23, 2024 19:47:11 GMT
WVL293 has arrived at NP garage for route learning on 217s Funny enough I looked on LVF at the 473 earlier and noticed 100% WVN and did wonder if buses were on the move!
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Post by atb123 on Oct 23, 2024 20:11:26 GMT
WVL293 has arrived at NP garage for route learning on 217s Funny enough I looked on LVF at the 473 earlier and noticed 100% VN and did wonder if buses were on the move!
First time to see anything other than ADL officially allocated to the route if you don't include the 3rd of August emergency start where they had to use HVs for 2 weeks |
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Post by BK15AZR on Oct 23, 2024 21:45:41 GMT
Seems to be a mix of DS school routes and rotating on the 473 Seems likely that those WVNs and some spare from other garages can make the 217 PVR Would be nice to see them alongside the VWs on the 231 along the same corridor! |
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Post by adl on Oct 23, 2024 22:57:03 GMT
WVL293 has arrived at NP garage for route learning on 217s So the 473 requires 10 buses, the 217 requires 13 buses. The 657 requires 1 bus. All together 24 buses needed. 21 between DS/SI and NP. There was: 14x WVNs at RR (WVN2-8, 11-16) 5x WVLs at RR/SI (WVL293, 294, 358, 359, 412) 2x WVNs at NP. (WVN9, 17) I feel of it is to use Gemini 2s that the 5x WVLs will be the ones to move as there are enough 09-reg Es for the 101 until it’s electrics arrive. 10 of the current WVNs at RR will be required for the 473 until it converts to electrics, leaving 4 spare and 1 spare at NP however I don’t feel WVNs will be part of the allocation for the 217 and I feel GAL will use their own Gemini 2s with the WVNs continuing to cover for electric delays potentially. Even if this is not the case GAL will need to transfer 3 more buses from other garages should they use the WVNs, as there’s 21 rather the required 24. This also allows GAL to withdraw the Ex First WVNs prior to the WVLs after the 101/473 /99/269/401 electric conversion & loss of the 476 and withdrawal of the 118. |
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Post by lb122 on Oct 24, 2024 10:27:24 GMT
Official allocation of the BYD B11E02: EBD1-18 for route 321 EBD19-34 for route 333 EBD35-44 for route 101 EBD45-54 for route 473 EBD55-75 for route SL4 Source: LOTS TLB (October '24 edition)  Unfortunately it appears there are even more heading to GAL (EBD86 on the far right)  |
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Post by jacques on Oct 24, 2024 10:39:55 GMT
I assume these are being transported by a container ship? |
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Post by mark on Oct 24, 2024 10:44:29 GMT
I assume these are being transported by a container ship? They are transported in a purpose built vehicle carrier. There’s a facility to handle them at Southampton Docks which can be seen from the IOW and Hythe ferries. It’s on the port (or left to landlubbers) side as you sail out to sea. |
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Post by DE20106 on Oct 24, 2024 10:45:12 GMT
That probably explains the 129’s allocation then, that was confirmed to be getting BYDs |
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Post by M1104 on Oct 24, 2024 10:46:10 GMT
When news of the order first came out from other sources (then yet confirmed) the order number was around one-hundred |
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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 24, 2024 10:52:44 GMT
I assume these are being transported by a container ship? They are transported in a purpose built vehicle carrier. There’s a facility to handle them at Southampton Docks which can be seen from the IOW and Hythe ferries. It’s on the port (or left to landlubbers) side as you sail out to sea. The ship is commonly referred to as Ro-Ro, however these could also be seen via normal cargo ship if wrapped and placed in a hold below. The latter isn’t common for land vehicles but is for helicopters, trains and even some planes with the wings removed. Luckily BYD has its own Ro-Ro ships and can transport these relatively cheaply. |
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Post by mark on Oct 24, 2024 11:03:31 GMT
They are transported in a purpose built vehicle carrier. There’s a facility to handle them at Southampton Docks which can be seen from the IOW and Hythe ferries. It’s on the port (or left to landlubbers) side as you sail out to sea. The ship is commonly referred to as Ro-Ro, however these could also be seen via normal cargo ship if wrapped and placed in a hold below. The latter isn’t common for land vehicles but is for helicopters, trains and even some planes with the wings removed. Luckily BYD has its own Ro-Ro ships and can transport these relatively cheaply. Indeed it is although within the shipping industry the terms “pure car carrier” or “pure car and truck carrier” are often used. The common feature is that vehicles are driven, rather than lifted, on and off the vessel. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Oct 24, 2024 11:08:40 GMT
The ship is commonly referred to as Ro-Ro, however these could also be seen via normal cargo ship if wrapped and placed in a hold below. The latter isn’t common for land vehicles but is for helicopters, trains and even some planes with the wings removed. Luckily BYD has its own Ro-Ro ships and can transport these relatively cheaply. Indeed it is although within the shipping industry the terms “pure car carrier” or “pure car and truck carrier” are often used. The common feature is that vehicles are driven, rather than lifted, on and off the vessel. Even car carriers will take fully loaded containers on the top decks. |
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Post by mark on Oct 24, 2024 11:26:13 GMT
Indeed it is although within the shipping industry the terms “pure car carrier” or “pure car and truck carrier” are often used. The common feature is that vehicles are driven, rather than lifted, on and off the vessel. Even car carriers will take fully loaded containers on the top decks. Some do but increasingly they are purely for vehicles as the port infrastructure to handle container ships is fundamentally different to that for RoRo. There’s a pic of one of the BYD fleet here- www.vesselfinder.com/vessels/details/9955181 |
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