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Post by lc1 on Jun 12, 2007 19:10:01 GMT
Even thought I should know this, I dont... when you say "got done by a QSi"... what happens to you? Some points dont require running numbers, all thats recorded is route number, direction and destination... so how will they know its a specific driver? Probably one of them as it is a high frequency route. Could be wrong but I think they go through the AVL etc... which will tell them which bus was running 'out of synq'. As to what happens to the driver (again could be wrong as I have never been done before, perhaps egg and/or 469king would like to help me out ) but depending on the serverity and/or your record with regards timekeeping you could get either a slap on the wrists to a written warning, hopefully as I have never been done for running early before (not even by one of our Controllers) I will get away with a slap on the wrists after all it was only 25 seconds
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2007 21:56:05 GMT
Ahhh I see, thanks for that. Now the job Ive been doing for the past 9 months actually has meaning!! I guess there'll be alot more slaps going around when iBus comes in!!
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Post by eggmiester on Jun 14, 2007 2:22:51 GMT
Probably not because tfl will only still be able to officially time buses at certain locations for QSI purposes, However service controllers will be able to time-check buses anywhere from thier workstations.
Lc1, it depends on what your timekeeping records like, if its anything like mine then your'e in the s**t, if tis squeaky clean then you'll be OK, poss get a slap on the wrist and a 'don't do it again'. It'll be about 3 weeks before you find out though as thats how long it takes tfl and lc to process the data.
For the record my timekeeping record stands at: 1. July 06 Booked by LC offical - Arriving 5 mins early at Q.E. hospital on route 244 2. Oct 06 QSI Report - 3 mins 25 secs early at Welling corner route B16 3. Oct 06 QSI Report - 3 mins 42 secs early at Eltham High Street route B16 Incidentally both the QSI reports were from the same trip on the same day. I'm now on a written warning for 2 years (well 18 months left now)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2007 9:59:50 GMT
Im sure sometimes running early depends on the time. Your clock might say 4:25pm, and the QSi's might say 4:23pm. That could make a big difference... considering its down to the second?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2007 20:46:30 GMT
Im sure sometimes running early depends on the time. Your clock might say 4:25pm, and the QSi's might say 4:23pm. That could make a big difference... considering its down to the second? AFAIR they all have synchronised clocks?
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Post by eggmiester on Jun 14, 2007 22:08:05 GMT
Im sure sometimes running early depends on the time. Your clock might say 4:25pm, and the QSi's might say 4:23pm. That could make a big difference... considering its down to the second? AFAIR they all have synchronised clocks? The Wayfarer's clocks are radio controlled so are accurate to the m/s. I'd assume the QSI's handhelds are radio controlled as well, to give accurate readings.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 14, 2007 23:00:27 GMT
Nope, ours are set individually. I set mine by a 173's clock in Beckton, I presume all buses are set on the same time?
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Post by Madstuntman on Jun 15, 2007 16:41:37 GMT
AFAIR they all have synchronised clocks? The Wayfarer's clocks are radio controlled so are accurate to the m/s. I'd assume the QSI's handhelds are radio controlled as well, to give accurate readings. I thought the clocks were set daily via the module when you sign it on at the garage. It then updating the wayfarer when you put the module in. I once took a bus out that had been in engineering for a couple of weeks when i switched the bus on the time and date were both way out but changed the second i put the module in
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Post by eggmiester on Jun 15, 2007 22:35:15 GMT
Its the module that recieves the radio transmission, once its signed on in the wayfarer it acts as an antenna for the clock and date adjustment.
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Post by lc1 on Jun 16, 2007 1:41:40 GMT
Bloody Taxi Drivers Now, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against them and infact would rather get a black cab than a mini-cab (not so much now that there ALL licencensed) however tonight there was about 20 Taxi's parked up (for those that know it) outside the BMW dealer in Lee Terrace protesting about minicabs with signs on the taxi's saying things like keep the public safe hire a Black Cab etc..., probably a very good thing, however how safe were the public with where they was parked on double yellow lines, on a blind bend and completely blocking a Compulsory Bus Stop Police What good do they do whilst I was attempting to serve said stop blocked by the Taxi Drivers had a Police car come the other way, no blues and two's, obviously he was unable to get past due to the fact I was completely on the wrong side of the road, what's he do, get's out and starts having a go at me for blocking the road I told him in no uncertain terms that instead of harrasing me for doing my job he would be better of harrasing said Taxi Drivers parked in such a dangerous manner, he carried on until my bus load of passengers started on him with the same question (i.e why was he having a go at me and ignoring the traffic offences) with that he, turned to me and said just go, got off the bus, jumped in his car and speed round me using the pavement ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2007 13:24:18 GMT
Police What good do they do whilst I was attempting to serve said stop blocked by the Taxi Drivers had a Police car come the other way, no blues and two's, obviously he was unable to get past due to the fact I was completely on the wrong side of the road, what's he do, get's out and starts having a go at me for blocking the road I told him in no uncertain terms that instead of harrasing me for doing my job he would be better of harrasing said Taxi Drivers parked in such a dangerous manner, he carried on until my bus load of passengers started on him with the same question (i.e why was he having a go at me and ignoring the traffic offences) with that he, turned to me and said just go, got off the bus, jumped in his car and speed round me using the pavement ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You and your passengers against one copper - it's obvious you're gonna win However this is the sad reality of the police force these days - people are getting away with more serious stuff (like murder), while the feds are busy wasting taxpayers' money arresting people for minor offences such as blinking, or other stuff which isn't the fault of the person involved
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Post by lc1 on Jun 16, 2007 22:31:33 GMT
Police What good do they do whilst I was attempting to serve said stop blocked by the Taxi Drivers had a Police car come the other way, no blues and two's, obviously he was unable to get past due to the fact I was completely on the wrong side of the road, what's he do, get's out and starts having a go at me for blocking the road I told him in no uncertain terms that instead of harrasing me for doing my job he would be better of harrasing said Taxi Drivers parked in such a dangerous manner, he carried on until my bus load of passengers started on him with the same question (i.e why was he having a go at me and ignoring the traffic offences) with that he, turned to me and said just go, got off the bus, jumped in his car and speed round me using the pavement ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D You and your passengers against one copper - it's obvious you're gonna win However this is the sad reality of the police force these days - people are getting away with more serious stuff (like murder), while the feds are busy wasting taxpayers' money arresting people for minor offences such as blinking, or other stuff which isn't the fault of the person involved Another run in with the Police today I'm sitting in a residential road waiting for the Police to deal with some Window etchers who were STILL on the bus, notice a Police Van pulling out of a side street about 30 yards in front, put my assualt alarm on and continusly flash my headlights at them, what do they do, yep you've guessed it, turn the other way and speed off with this the etchers realise I'm waiting for the Police so they decamp from the bus and do a runner, infact I'm so annoyed at the fact that the Police could have caught them red handed I might even put in a claim to them for loss of earnings (we get £50 for EVERY person caught graffiting, so by my reckoning the Police's actions have cost me £200 )
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Post by greeny253 on Jun 17, 2007 22:35:31 GMT
This is an unfortuante sign of the times and they way things work. Because the police prioritise their calls things like this are not dealt with as quickly as they could be. Another problem is that police officers are often reluctant to deal with the paperwork. Back when I was at school there was a 374 driver who used to often park his bus outside Harold Hill Police Station and sound the assault alarm. Needless to say not a lot happened. The other problem is some of them have a real attitude problem I say speak to your local police station and let them know that you signalled a van and he drove away. Good to see that people power won the day with the other fella though.
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Post by Steve80 on Jun 17, 2007 23:28:45 GMT
£50 for every person?! It must be pretty bad around those areas!
And taxi drivers lol. I been cut up by them so many times especially in west end. They just jump in front of you and then stop to pick up that passenger even though its right on the junction and trafic lights is showing green. It doesn't bother them at all.
And last week while doing the route 3 I had 4 girls smoking upstairs. So many people came down and complained to me about it. I had to get them off. Its just that normally people ignore it when others smoke on the bus so it seems like passengers have had enough and are fighting back.
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Post by DLA 365 on Jun 18, 2007 10:32:06 GMT
I'm so annoyed at the fact that the Police could have caught them red handed I might even put in a claim to them for loss of earnings (we get £50 for EVERY person caught graffiting, so by my reckoning the Police's actions have cost me £200 ) Do the police give you £50 per vandal every time they cock up?
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