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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Sept 15, 2020 9:15:59 GMT
I find it laughable you say that, you have one looney tune running a mess over the other side of the pond, captain stay at home but go outside running a mess over here while countries such as Germany and South Korea seem to managed to get things in order pretty quickly. And I find the fact that you find the air bridge scheme pathetic........ well pathetic but there we are. I'll leave you to your point scoring. There's a pandemic ravaging the world and you want people to start travelling the world?
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Post by Pilot on Sept 15, 2020 10:30:25 GMT
I don't wanna go too deep into pandemic but when people are locked up at home and can't do anything interesting they will develop mental problems, so yes people much rather fly out to Spain/Turkey and at least try to forget about this whole pandemic by the sunny beach.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 15, 2020 10:35:09 GMT
Morning All I'm going to go a bit off topic here. I feel like ever since David Cameron made that controversial move in 2016 things have not been the same. You have the hostility of Brexit, the climate change and now Covid. Now for me personally if I was in charge of the government I would have quarantined people back in January when cases started to build up (not a lockdown but people coming from countries affected put them in an isolation area where they can be treated). The announcement Boris made in March was clear for people to understand as most things were closed. I feel like many people thought the reason we went into lockdown was for the virus to disappear. The main reason was to keep the virus low as possible to help the NHS out. So from this point you had people panic buying (my own experience going to various supermarkets I saw this with my own eyes), and then people rapidly passing away. I feel like a lot of people expect things to get back to normal quickly. I hate to burst your bubble but it doesn't work like that. This pandemic has affected people in many ways more than one. What I don't agree with is people posting up comments on social media saying stuff like "Oh what is wrong with people, stay at home it's not hard" "i'm able to stay indoors why can't everyone else". First and foremost you have no idea what people are going through, secondly there's only so much a person can take before they begin to crack, it's human nature to act like this. Obviously I don't condone hosting parties of multiple people whilst all of this is happening but what I won't do is complain about how bad things have been. We need to change our mindsets and put it in a better place for our well-being. Finally I want to add this. Some may be reluctant to go out as much as they wouldn't want to potentially infect their loved ones and that's fine. We need to get to the point where we can respect people's views in a nice and calm way and not force things down people's faces. What I dislike is people shouting it to the heavens thay they're doing something for approval, that's just annoying and that's my opinion on this matter. To all of you on here that have lost loved ones or know people that have passed away may they rest in peace. I agree with much of what you say, inevitably Brexit divided the country and now covid has exacerbated things. Maybe quarantine should have been implemented in January but then hindsight is a wonderful thing, if I remember correctly covid wasn't being taken too seriously at that point and this would have undoubtedly been dismissed as a panic measure or a knee jerk reaction by many. The alleged panic buying was basically just people moaning because somebody else got to the loo rolls before they did, inevitably if there is an unforseen surge in demand for particular products it's going to lead to a shortage. As somebody previously alluded to this isn't something that any politician of any political persuasion can solve and all we can do is heed the advice of the chief medical officer. I find the disingenuous attitude of some people rather tiresome, complaining that the rules are too complex and are constantly changing, well it's a constantly changing situation. I've not personally lost any family or friends through covid and I'm thankful for that but I have had to miss a family funeral because of covid regulations and cancel a holiday abroad but that's not the end of the world. The temerity you have to dismiss the alleged panic buying (which, I will have you know, was 100% panic buying due to the constant rumours of a lock down circulating whilst the government dithered) as simply people moaning is astounding - there was mass stockpiling of tissue for something that doesn’t require a stockpiling of tissue as well as many then flogging it at hugely inflated prices online which left the elderly and vulnerable unable to get there usual supply and which led to the creation of special hours where elderly & key workers were allowed in first. If people had continued to buy at a sensible rate, there wouldn't of been a shortage to begin with.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2020 10:37:10 GMT
I don't wanna go too deep into pandemic but when people are locked up at home and can't do anything interesting they will develop mental problems, so yes people much rather fly out to Spain/Turkey and at least try to forget about this whole pandemic by the sunny beach. No one is locked up at home, even during lockdown we could go out daily for exercise. I suffered anxiety like lots during the hight of the pandemic but we can't keep using mental health as an excuse for peoples actions I don't mean for that to sound harsh. Don't see how people will forget about the pandemic when sat on a plane in a face make for several hours. I understand essentially travel but holidays abroad are a luxury that can wait until things are better, plenty of nice places to visit in the UK.
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Post by vjaska on Sept 15, 2020 10:39:35 GMT
I don't wanna go too deep into pandemic but when people are locked up at home and can't do anything interesting they will develop mental problems, so yes people much rather fly out to Spain/Turkey and at least try to forget about this whole pandemic by the sunny beach. You have to have a balance though - if people want to fly abroad, follow the guidelines because the problem is people aren't doing that and are risking potentially another full lockdown - not only are many not following social distancing or mask wearing where it's been compulsory but some people are not self isolating when flying home from countries on the quarantine list. The quicker people follow the rules, the less chance of a lockdown and the quicker we can begin to recover some sort of normal life.
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Post by greenboy on Sept 15, 2020 10:54:14 GMT
I don't wanna go too deep into pandemic but when people are locked up at home and can't do anything interesting they will develop mental problems, so yes people much rather fly out to Spain/Turkey and at least try to forget about this whole pandemic by the sunny beach. We had a holiday booked in Dubrovnik which we were looking forward to but we've had to settle for Bognor instead but I understand your point completely about mental health and everyone needs some sort of escape even if it's just a few days.
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Post by bn12cny on Sept 16, 2020 13:45:22 GMT
As living in China I really don’t understand or know about how many people allowed on the bus...
Here the buses can be full with people standing it doesn’t matter, however you must show your QR Health Code to get on the bus (but now that’s getting relaxed, most drivers here in Ningbo doesn’t ask for it)..
Furthermore is there a same restrictions for trains/underground’s if not why not?
I do understand people most go outside to escape this virus, however what I don’t understand is the way the UK dealing with it, we was on total lockdown for about 1 month where we couldn’t go outside except for once a week to a certain shop at a certain time, security at the end of the road etc but it worked... now I travel all the time over China and absolutely fine...
I hope everyone is safe and well and lives get back to normality soon, when everything is over will come back to England for a week and do some serious riding around London...
My plan is A10 to Uxbridge, 607 to Shepherds Bush, 94 to Oxford Circus, walk to Russell Square, X68 to Croydon then X26 to Heathrow because always stay at Travelodge on Bath Road...any other routes suggested would be great
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Post by greenboy on Sept 16, 2020 15:12:20 GMT
As living in China I really don’t understand or know about how many people allowed on the bus... Here the buses can be full with people standing it doesn’t matter, however you must show your QR Health Code to get on the bus (but now that’s getting relaxed, most drivers here in Ningbo doesn’t ask for it).. Furthermore is there a same restrictions for trains/underground’s if not why not? I do understand people most go outside to escape this virus, however what I don’t understand is the way the UK dealing with it, we was on total lockdown for about 1 month where we couldn’t go outside except for once a week to a certain shop at a certain time, security at the end of the road etc but it worked... now I travel all the time over China and absolutely fine... I hope everyone is safe and well and lives get back to normality soon, when everything is over will come back to England for a week and do some serious riding around London... My plan is A10 to Uxbridge, 607 to Shepherds Bush, 94 to Oxford Circus, walk to Russell Square, X68 to Croydon then X26 to Heathrow because always stay at Travelodge on Bath Road...any other routes suggested would be great It's difficult to restrict the numbers of passengers on trains but stations can be closed in the event of overcrowding and reopened when platforms clear. I don't think the majority of people in the UK would tolerate a lockdown on the scale of the one in China. I assume you know that the X68 only operates Monday to Friday in the pm peak from Russell Square to Croydon.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 17, 2020 16:54:42 GMT
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Post by M1104 on Sept 18, 2020 8:46:15 GMT
In addition to TfL's plans to implement more 24 hour operated bus lanes re-introduction of request stop operation would be plausible in the effort to speed up bus services.
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Post by george on Sept 19, 2020 10:09:27 GMT
Can we please have this on the 316 so local residents can no longer complain about people looking into their rooms 😁
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2020 10:12:29 GMT
Can we please have this on the 316 so local residents can no longer complain about people looking into their rooms 😁 Would be handy on the DLR too especially along around Silvertown / Canning Town where the apartments are very close to the line Technology is amazing!
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Post by SILENCED on Sept 19, 2020 10:23:35 GMT
Can we please have this on the 316 so local residents can no longer complain about people looking into their rooms 😁 Imagine that would be horrible to travel on
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Post by george on Sept 19, 2020 10:37:30 GMT
Can we please have this on the 316 so local residents can no longer complain about people looking into their rooms 😁 Imagine that would be horrible to travel on In all seriousness if I was a regular user on the 316 I would much rather have my window blacked out for a few seconds than be forced to travel on a single decker day in day out that gets very overcrowded.
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Post by redexpress on Sept 19, 2020 11:32:11 GMT
Imagine that would be horrible to travel on In all seriousness if I was a regular user on the 316 I would much rather have my window blacked out for a few seconds than be forced to travel on a single decker day in day out that gets very overcrowded. I think that the objections on the 316 were more to do with vibrations from heavier buses and/or perceived safety risk from DDs, not privacy. After all they already have DD 295s running past their windows. The campaign against the 316 referenced a collision involving a DD 295 and a pedestrian. I don't think the fact that it was a DD had anything to do with the collision, but some people got it into their minds that DDs are inherently unsafe.
In other areas there are indeed objections against DDs because of privacy concerns - I think the 184 is one example. When I travelled on one of the few DDs that managed to escape onto the offending section of the 184 I did have a look to see if there was anything special about the first floors of Alexandra Park Road. It was just another boring residential street.
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