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Post by M1104 on Oct 10, 2021 15:24:38 GMT
What has been the most unpopular routing change/area scheme that TFL went ahead with anyway in the last 10 years in your opinion? TfL wanting the four temporarily allocated Tridents off the 152 after their eighteen months in use, the route then reverting back to 100% single deckers.
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Post by dashing0ne on Oct 10, 2021 20:24:42 GMT
What has been the most unpopular routing change/area scheme that TFL went ahead with anyway in the last 10 years in your opinion? TfL wanting the four temporarily allocated Tridents off the 152 after their eighteen months in use, the route then reverting back to 100% single deckers. Local to the route perhaps a couple of deckers could be good.
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Post by mkay315 on Oct 11, 2021 4:47:37 GMT
What has been the most unpopular routing change/area scheme that TFL went ahead with anyway in the last 10 years in your opinion? The 25 route change for starters. Then the 15 cutback to trafalgar square. Also the 176 cutback to Tottenham Court Road in which they said it would be temporary only for them to make that change permanent.
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Post by capitalomnibus on Oct 11, 2021 20:29:42 GMT
What has been the most unpopular routing change/area scheme that TFL went ahead with anyway in the last 10 years in your opinion? route 48 cut, made it high in media also and still went ahead
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Post by YX10FFN on Oct 11, 2021 20:45:48 GMT
What has been the most unpopular routing change/area scheme that TFL went ahead with anyway in the last 10 years in your opinion? route 48 cut, made it high in media also and still went ahead Haven't read the consultation report but I struggle to believe how they got a majority of positive responses for the 48. Wouldn't be surprised if they just went and did it anyway. It's not like the 48 was underused.
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Post by ronnie on Oct 11, 2021 20:49:07 GMT
Having used the 132/335/108 extensively for the past few weeks, the timing / scheduling is quite annoying
In the evening the frequency drops to 15 min for the 132, 108 and 335. Given the overlap (at least initially) ne would have spaced out the buses to have a more pleasant customer experience (esp when you have the tube coming every 2-3 min keeping in mind frequencies on both sides). But no - the 3 buses leave at almost the same time. So if you are unlucky like me and you miss one you miss them all and then there is a 15 min wait - has happened twice now! Then you have a convoy leaving together with nothing else for the next 15 min. I have actually beaten the 132s by using 422 or a combination of 188/286 in that way
It’s little things like this which are off-putting for customer experience and contribute to decline in bus ridership
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Post by vjaska on Oct 11, 2021 21:10:55 GMT
Having used the 132/335/108 extensively for the past few weeks, the timing / scheduling is quite annoying In the evening the frequency drops to 15 min for the 132, 108 and 335. Given the overlap (at least initially) ne would have spaced out the buses to have a more pleasant customer experience (esp when you have the tube coming every 2-3 min keeping in mind frequencies on both sides). But no - the 3 buses leave at almost the same time. So if you are unlucky like me and you miss one you miss them all and then there is a 15 min wait - has happened twice now! Then you have a convoy leaving together with nothing else for the next 15 min. I have actually beaten the 132s by using 422 or a combination of 188/286 in that way It’s little things like this which are off-putting for customer experience and contribute to decline in bus ridership It's not the only corridor where this happens - same thing happens on the Tulse Hill corridor where the 2, 415 & 432 frequently arrive together and I agree it's very frustrating
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Post by Deleted on Oct 11, 2021 21:21:00 GMT
What has been the most unpopular routing change/area scheme that TFL went ahead with anyway in the last 10 years in your opinion? I was going to say the withdrawal of route 10, but I think the changes to the Acton / Hammersmith / Sands End routes weren’t thought through very well.
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Post by DT 11 on Oct 11, 2021 21:30:53 GMT
Having used the 132/335/108 extensively for the past few weeks, the timing / scheduling is quite annoying In the evening the frequency drops to 15 min for the 132, 108 and 335. Given the overlap (at least initially) ne would have spaced out the buses to have a more pleasant customer experience (esp when you have the tube coming every 2-3 min keeping in mind frequencies on both sides). But no - the 3 buses leave at almost the same time. So if you are unlucky like me and you miss one you miss them all and then there is a 15 min wait - has happened twice now! Then you have a convoy leaving together with nothing else for the next 15 min. I have actually beaten the 132s by using 422 or a combination of 188/286 in that way It’s little things like this which are off-putting for customer experience and contribute to decline in bus ridership From doing the 335s in the evenings many times I’ve noticed that. 335s are scheduled to depart 00 15 30 45 same as 132s. The 108 schedule shows timings shortly before these times and a few with these exact times. The 208 & 320 is annoying too both buses usually arrive at the same time.
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Post by dlroper on Oct 11, 2021 21:40:07 GMT
Having used the 132/335/108 extensively for the past few weeks, the timing / scheduling is quite annoying In the evening the frequency drops to 15 min for the 132, 108 and 335. Given the overlap (at least initially) ne would have spaced out the buses to have a more pleasant customer experience (esp when you have the tube coming every 2-3 min keeping in mind frequencies on both sides). But no - the 3 buses leave at almost the same time. So if you are unlucky like me and you miss one you miss them all and then there is a 15 min wait - has happened twice now! Then you have a convoy leaving together with nothing else for the next 15 min. I have actually beaten the 132s by using 422 or a combination of 188/286 in that way It’s little things like this which are off-putting for customer experience and contribute to decline in bus ridership I feel your pain .............. Since the N9 frequency cut ................... N9 arrives Trafalgar Square at 08 / 38 - N551 departs Trafalgar Square at 06 / 36 - I now get a 28 minute wait - irritating
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Post by YX10FFN on Oct 11, 2021 22:13:00 GMT
What has been the most unpopular routing change/area scheme that TFL went ahead with anyway in the last 10 years in your opinion? I was going to say the withdrawal of route 10, but I think the changes to the Acton / Hammersmith / Sands End routes weren’t thought through very well. The 391 reliability was pretty poor in the years leading up to the cutback so there was at least some justification for that. However, from a Kew standpoint we have been given an equally as unreliable, sometimes worse, route in the 110. As has been heavily debated on here, there are various aspects of the 306 that don't seem right, like not running it in to Acton, and in my opinion it didn't need to be decked. Every observation of the 306 I've had its had manageable single deck capacity, I've never seen a full 306.
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Post by dashing0ne on Oct 12, 2021 5:53:27 GMT
What has been the most unpopular routing change/area scheme that TFL went ahead with anyway in the last 10 years in your opinion? I was going to say the withdrawal of route 10, but I think the changes to the Acton / Hammersmith / Sands End routes weren’t thought through very well. The 306/218 arrangement boils my blood. Easily you could have a North Acton-Sands End route witht he 306 and 218 essentially merged. In fact, I never saw much point in cutting the small yet valuable section of the 266 but then you got a Sands End underserved so you need a route so I essentially would opt for a 218/206 merger. At least Sands End now gets deckers, although it could survive with SD's but I will always advocate for decking.
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Post by YX10FFN on Oct 12, 2021 6:15:49 GMT
I was going to say the withdrawal of route 10, but I think the changes to the Acton / Hammersmith / Sands End routes weren’t thought through very well. The 306/218 arrangement boils my blood. Easily you could have a North Acton-Sands End route witht he 306 and 218 essentially merged. In fact, I never saw much point in cutting the small yet valuable section of the 266 but then you got a Sands End underserved so you need a route so I essentially would opt for a 218/206 merger. At least Sands End now gets deckers, although it could survive with SD's but I will always advocate for decking. Combining the two routes entirely will give you the same kind of reliability issues the 391 faced due to the length of the route. A40 issues, Acton Town Centre and Uxbridge Road traffic, Hammersmith, North End Road. The one thing I will give the 306 credit for is that its reliable, and in some cases, even over timed. No question that the Sands End section should be served, although even when the 391 went there it wasn't overused. Most simple solution to make this scheme work for the better in the long term is to finally bring the 306 to Acton. The 218 probably should be extended at the northern end too, I'm sure West Acton residents would appreciate the Park Royal link being reinstated for a start.
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Post by TB123 on Oct 12, 2021 7:12:58 GMT
The 306/218 arrangement boils my blood. Easily you could have a North Acton-Sands End route witht he 306 and 218 essentially merged. In fact, I never saw much point in cutting the small yet valuable section of the 266 but then you got a Sands End underserved so you need a route so I essentially would opt for a 218/206 merger. At least Sands End now gets deckers, although it could survive with SD's but I will always advocate for decking. Combining the two routes entirely will give you the same kind of reliability issues the 391 faced due to the length of the route. A40 issues, Acton Town Centre and Uxbridge Road traffic, Hammersmith, North End Road. The one thing I will give the 306 credit for is that its reliable, and in some cases, even over timed. No question that the Sands End section should be served, although even when the 391 went there it wasn't overused. Most simple solution to make this scheme work for the better in the long term is to finally bring the 306 to Acton. The 218 probably should be extended at the northern end too, I'm sure West Acton residents would appreciate the Park Royal link being reinstated for a start. 218 is planned to eventually be extended to Old Oak Common
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Post by enviroPB on Oct 14, 2021 7:06:11 GMT
Pardon my language, but I'm getting really f**king peeed off at some of the drivers on the N15. I've said in the past that certain bad apples who work at night feel impunity because there's no one conscious enough to report their misdeeds.
I had to report a driver last week, the same driver who told me to walk from Romford to Barking at 2am in November after I broke my bank card being trapped in a toilet. I alighted in the Stepney area last week and he deliberately didn't stop for me. Me. The only one alighting. It was targeted, it wasn't accidental, and I felt I had to report it.
Fast forward to this week where I haven't mentioned it on here (the walls definitely have ears) and a driver who's quite friendly with me, Dean, has flung me around so violently that I've lost my passport within the final 2 minutes of being on the bus. I take responsibility for losing it, but I believe it wasn't natural for me to have possession for roughly 7 hours whilst in an inebriated state, only to lose it in the final 2 mins of my journey. And the reason why I mention the friendly driver is normally he'd be responsive to me & punters in general. This guy has stopped me for receipts falling out my pocket when I tap in, why was a passport falling out not classed as something he should flag up?
I cancelled it immediately after alighting, and I'm sure it was near the driver area of the aisle as that's the only place I hadn't looked. But for these childish grown ups spiting me for what; because I say thanks when I board and alight? Because I have manners and wish to bestow that on people? Swearing at the start of this post doesn't back up my claims, but I'm still very annoyed at what happened.
But it's okay. It's my 28th birthday soon and I clearly have been using my passport as ID for too long. Somehow, including getting up 2 minutes early before my stop to make sure I had all my contents, this is still my fault. And I'll take responsibility, but driver behaviour definitely played a part in the misplacing of my crucial document.
There are three night routes into Barking, I guess I better explore those other options for a while. I won't be played with by immature, insecure children masquerading as adults. Akin to the time in the height of the pandemic last year where some drivers decided I wasn't a key worker and wouldn't stop for me, I need a break from taking the N15.
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