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Post by snoggle on Jul 30, 2018 0:17:29 GMT
Guys I didn't know where to post this but I'll share it here. I am in the middle of making a list which is called "My Exemption List" meaning the Boris Bus routes that I am exempt from travelling on unless an emergency. Where can I find a list of all routes that use LTs, it will make it easier to make my list. Thanks guys😊😊😊 NB4L operated routes are 3, 5 (some workings), 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 21, 24, 38, 48, 55, 59, 68, 73, 76, 88, 91, 137, 148, 149, 168, 159, 189, 211, 253, 254, 267, 390, 453, EL1, EL2, EL3, N3, N8, N11, N15 (part), N38, N55, N73, N253. Some are 24 hour routes and keep NB4Ls for night jnys. That's what I have on my list. I am sure someone will spring up and point out any errors. I don't have an exemption list. I just don't get on the d*mn things if I can avoid them. One reason for so few bus rides in Zone 1. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2018 0:20:21 GMT
Guys I didn't know where to post this but I'll share it here. I am in the middle of making a list which is called "My Exemption List" meaning the Boris Bus routes that I am exempt from travelling on unless an emergency. Where can I find a list of all routes that use LTs, it will make it easier to make my list. Thanks guys😊😊😊 NB4L operated routes are 3, 5 (some workings), 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 21, 24, 38, 48, 55, 59, 68, 73, 76, 88, 91, 137, 148, 149, 168, 159, 189, 211, 253, 254, 267, 390, 453, EL1, EL2, EL3, N3, N8, N11, N15 (part), N38, N55, N73, N253. That's what I have on my list. I am sure someone will spring up and point out any errors. I don't have an exemption list. I just don't get on the d*mn things if I can avoid them. One reason for so few bus rides in Zone 1. It's good to know that I am not the only one that dislikes NB4Ls  . Thanks for listing the routes one by one, now I should have completed my list by Tuesday Hopefully. As I also said I would only use them in an emergency lol. |
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Post by lwldriver on Jul 30, 2018 5:37:59 GMT
NB4L operated routes are 3, 5 (some workings), 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 15, 16, 21, 24, 38, 48, 55, 59, 68, 73, 76, 88, 91, 137, 148, 149, 168, 159, 189, 211, 253, 254, 267, 390, 453, EL1, EL2, EL3, N3, N8, N11, N15 (part), N38, N55, N73, N253. That's what I have on my list. I am sure someone will spring up and point out any errors. I don't have an exemption list. I just don't get on the d*mn things if I can avoid them. One reason for so few bus rides in Zone 1. It's good to know that I am not the only one that dislikes NB4Ls . Thanks for listing the routes one by one, now I should have completed my list by Tuesday Hopefully. As I also said I would only use them in an emergency lol. You have forgot N21 and the forth coming part allocation on the 415. |
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Post by busaholic on Jul 30, 2018 14:04:41 GMT
It's good to know that I am not the only one that dislikes NB4Ls . Thanks for listing the routes one by one, now I should have completed my list by Tuesday Hopefully. As I also said I would only use them in an emergency lol. You have forgot N21 and the forth coming part allocation on the 415. They also make appearances on the Ni37, as I see when staying at my sister's and they stop outside my bedroom window. That's near enough for me to get to them.  |
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Post by sid on Jul 30, 2018 15:32:12 GMT
You have forgot N21 and the forth coming part allocation on the 415. They also make appearances on the Ni37, as I see when staying at my sister's and they stop outside my bedroom window. That's near enough for me to get to them. Are you sure LT's appear on the N137? I've never seen one or any reports of such workings in fact it was a diversion of the N3 that buried the myth about the left turn at Westow Street/Central Hill. |
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Post by 15002 on Jul 30, 2018 15:38:39 GMT
They also make appearances on the Ni37, as I see when staying at my sister's and they stop outside my bedroom window. That's near enough for me to get to them. Are you sure LT's run on the N137? I've never seen one or any reports of such workings in fact it was a diversion of the N3 that buried the myth about the left turn at Gypsy Hill lights. According to LVF there hasn’t been any appearances of LTs on the N137. The N68, at least under Go Ahead sometimes used LTs. |
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Post by busaholic on Jul 30, 2018 20:59:21 GMT
They also make appearances on the Ni37, as I see when staying at my sister's and they stop outside my bedroom window. That's near enough for me to get to them. Are you sure LT's appear on the N137? I've never seen one or any reports of such workings in fact it was a diversion of the N3 that buried the myth about the left turn at Westow Street/Central Hill. tbh as I'm in my bed at the time I can't confirm the LTs I've seen have been in service: I assumed at least some of them must have been on the N137 but they could all have been running light BN to N and vice versa. Perhaps the engineers are determined to knacker them, seeing as how Arriva don't own them and all that. |
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Post by rugbyref on Jul 31, 2018 10:14:11 GMT
It was bad enough for the able bodied when the R1 was cut from 4bph to 3bph, but this morning, in addition to a load of standing passengers a second wheelchair user wanted to board, and was turned away for a 20 minute wait. 15 minutes means you might just catch the train after the one you intended. 20 minutes would mean missing 2 trains. And the excuse we were given when the service was ruined......to match demand!
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Post by sid on Jul 31, 2018 10:20:46 GMT
It was bad enough for the able bodied when the R1 was cut from 4bph to 3bph, but this morning, in addition to a load of standing passengers a second wheelchair user wanted to board, and was turned away for a 20 minute wait. 15 minutes means you might just catch the train after the one you intended. 20 minutes would mean missing 2 trains. And the excuse we were given when the service was ruined......to match demand! The R11 was increased at the same time, whether that was a good move or not is questionable and I think the R1 should be extended to Foots Cray Tesco but has the service really been ruined? |
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Post by rugbyref on Aug 1, 2018 16:52:27 GMT
The R11 goes nowhere near Eton Road, where the second wheelchair user wanted to board. Tfl seem to ignore the section of R1 route from Repton Road via Chelsfield to Glentrammon Road. The R11 is no earthly use to those passengers. This poor lady would have been delayed by 20 minutes for the next bus, and a further 10 at Orpington Stn. So slashing the R1 service caused her to be at least 30 minutes late at her final destination. The R1 is the only route covering this section.
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Post by sid on Aug 1, 2018 16:55:37 GMT
The R11 goes nowhere near Eton Road, where the second wheelchair user wanted to board. Tfl seem to ignore the section of R1 route from Repton Road via Chelsfield to Glentrammon Road. The R11 is no earthly use to those passengers. This poor lady would have been delayed by 20 minutes for the next bus, and a further 10 at Orpington Stn. So slashing the R1 service caused her to be at least 30 minutes late at her final destination. The R1 is the only route covering this section. And equally if she had been waiting for an R11 there would have been less time to wait until the next one, you can't legislate for every eventuality. |
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Post by rugbyref on Aug 1, 2018 17:05:07 GMT
I repeat, Tfl doesn’t care about people living on the section from Repton Road via Chelsfield to Glentrammon Road. For a significant part of the R1 route, it is the only service available, so the cut had a disproportionate impact. The R11 runs alongside other routes for the majority of its route.
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Post by rugbyref on Aug 1, 2018 17:09:02 GMT
And another rant, the interior of the single door batch of Enviros used on the R routes have the second pole from the front of the bus on the nearside in a poor position. When you see a wheelchair user needing to make a 20 point turn to manoeuvre into position, you wonder why Go Ahead did not check with wheelchair users when designing the interior.
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Post by sid on Aug 1, 2018 17:21:37 GMT
I repeat, Tfl doesn’t care about people living on the section from Repton Road via Chelsfield to Glentrammon Road. For a significant part of the R1 route, it is the only service available, so the cut had a disproportionate impact. The R11 runs alongside other routes for the majority of its route. Are the R1's ram packed and leaving people behind? Certainly not from what I've seen. Maybe it could have been left at 4bph and the R11 not increased but I can't see what else you expect beyond that. Wheelchair users being left behind is unfortunate but it could happen anywhere, irregular services like the R5/8/10 or 146 for example. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 1, 2018 17:44:30 GMT
And another rant, the interior of the single door batch of Enviros used on the R routes have the second pole from the front of the bus on the nearside in a poor position. When you see a wheelchair user needing to make a 20 point turn to manoeuvre into position, you wonder why Go Ahead did not check with wheelchair users when designing the interior. I don’t think Go-Ahead spec where a handrail is placed inside the bus. |
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. Thanks for listing the routes one by one, now I should have completed my list by Tuesday Hopefully. As I also said I would only use them in an emergency lol.
