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Post by ak121 on Aug 11, 2018 22:41:39 GMT
The 482 is that it is low frequency so it must be on time (no more than about 2 minutes early or 5 minutes late). The problem is that traffic in Southall (Western Road, King Street, The Green, South Road) and in Hounslow West (Henlys Roundabout) is unpredictable. Some days you'll get through there fine and other days you'll get stuck, and there is no obvious pattern of which particular days it will happen. So Metroline have assumed there will be some traffic, and being cautious gives them have a better chance of meeting the targets. Although it hasn't worked as they have only met the on-time figures in one period out of the last 26  bus.data.tfl.gov.uk/boroughreports/routes/performance-route-482.pdf . A significant amount of that has had roadworks on South Road which is a bit unlucky, but the Sunday shopping hours have never had enough time to take into account traffic on Western Road and in Hounslow West  Wow. I’m surprised at the 482. The traffic in Southall has gotten worse and worse lately especially since the new road layout on South Road. The H32 seems to be uneffected most of the time I see it. Pretty much all the bus routes in Southall are affected by traffic daily, apart from the N207 . The 195, 105, 482, H32 srtuggle up Western Road, King Street and South Road. The 120 struggles up Norwood Road and Heston Road sometimes and daily up King Street and South Road. The E5 struggles up South Road and also Havelock Road towards Toplocks, when people wanting to visit the Gurdwara block the road. This happens all the time  . The 207, 427 and 607 struggle up the Uxbridge Road and The Broadway. Lastly, southbound Lady Margaret Road can get quite congested, affecting the E5, 105, 95 and 120. Pretty much most main roads in Southall all have quite a bit of traffic at certain, unpredictable times. |
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Post by busoccultation on Aug 12, 2018 18:53:10 GMT
I do wonder if Enviro 9401 may be an additional one from next year when the 452 wouldn't then moved to Westbourne Park Garage. Drifting slightly off subject Go-Ahead's 06 reg E1 should also be nominated. I think Stagecoach 19000 should definitely be preserved as well seeing it was the first ever Enviro 400 to be built plus one from 19131-19140 batch at TB seeing that batch are one of very few LWB Enviro 400 ever to see in service in London. |
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Post by YY13VKP on Aug 12, 2018 19:18:55 GMT
I do wonder if Enviro 9401 may be an additional one from next year when the 452 wouldn't then moved to Westbourne Park Garage. Drifting slightly off subject Go-Ahead's 06 reg E1 should also be nominated. I think Stagecoach 19000 should definitely be preserved as well seeing it was the first ever Enviro 400 to be built plus one from 19131-19140 batch at TB seeing that batch are one of very few LWB Enviro 400 ever to see in service in London. I would assume the Bromley Bus Preservation Group would be after one of the LWB E400's especially as they operated around there. |
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Post by sid on Aug 12, 2018 19:45:48 GMT
I do wonder if Enviro 9401 may be an additional one from next year when the 452 wouldn't then moved to Westbourne Park Garage. Drifting slightly off subject Go-Ahead's 06 reg E1 should also be nominated. I think Stagecoach 19000 should definitely be preserved as well seeing it was the first ever Enviro 400 to be built plus one from 19131-19140 batch at TB seeing that batch are one of very few LWB Enviro 400 ever to see in service in London. I read somewhere that 19000 is going to Brooklands museum in the near future, apparently it's not a popular bus with drivers anyway. *Just checked LVF and it's not seen service since 02/07 so presumably withdrawn? |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 12, 2018 23:22:35 GMT
I think Stagecoach 19000 should definitely be preserved as well seeing it was the first ever Enviro 400 to be built plus one from 19131-19140 batch at TB seeing that batch are one of very few LWB Enviro 400 ever to see in service in London. I read somewhere that 19000 is going to Brooklands museum in the near future, apparently it's not a popular bus with drivers anyway. *Just checked LVF and it's not seen service since 02/07 so presumably withdrawn? Hopefully, someone else preserves it as sadly, the buses that go to Brooklands rarely get regular outings. WVL1 did a recent outing but you had to be a member of the museum to use it |
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Post by YY13VKP on Aug 13, 2018 11:54:46 GMT
A gang of youths threw something at WHV46 while on the 119 just now outside Croydon Airport, who then fled the scene after the bus had to stop. Didn’t see exactly what happened but Think a window has been smashed. Police are now on the scene.
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Post by busoccultation on Aug 14, 2018 10:34:06 GMT
I think Stagecoach 19000 should definitely be preserved as well seeing it was the first ever Enviro 400 to be built plus one from 19131-19140 batch at TB seeing that batch are one of very few LWB Enviro 400 ever to see in service in London. I read somewhere that 19000 is going to Brooklands museum in the near future, apparently it's not a popular bus with drivers anyway. *Just checked LVF and it's not seen service since 02/07 so presumably withdrawn? 19000 is now back out on the 252 today, so it is not been withdrawn just yet  |
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Post by sid on Aug 15, 2018 6:24:46 GMT
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Post by John tuthill on Aug 15, 2018 9:17:31 GMT
Complete and utter gridlock. The traffic using Victoria Street would divert via Horseferry Road to use Lambeth Bridge, like wise with the reverse, Whitehall diverts via Horse Guards and the Embankment to use Westminster Bridge, and the reverse. Pedestrianise the square? That would be the thin end of the wedge. What next? Piccadilly Circus? It's not a bike you will need but a pair of stout walking shoes!
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Post by twobellstogo on Aug 15, 2018 9:41:34 GMT
Thinking of another recent thread, that would definitely mean the 53 being permanently curtailed to Lambeth North! |
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Post by VPL630 on Aug 15, 2018 10:37:01 GMT
I think Stagecoach 19000 should definitely be preserved as well seeing it was the first ever Enviro 400 to be built plus one from 19131-19140 batch at TB seeing that batch are one of very few LWB Enviro 400 ever to see in service in London. I read somewhere that 19000 is going to Brooklands museum in the near future, apparently it's not a popular bus with drivers anyway. *Just checked LVF and it's not seen service since 02/07 so presumably withdrawn? Driver’s don’t like it because it’s different to everything else in the garage, the doors are an issue for some drivers that are too quick on the buttons and the bus is LWB so Cranham is a bit tight I’m still yet to get a drive of this bus as it always seems to be unfit when I want it, even to the point where I get allocated it for a private hire and drops all it’s oil a few days before (This is why it’s been off the road for ages) I’m driving next week do a few days so hopefully I finally get a drive of it |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 15, 2018 11:23:50 GMT
It's another case of people overreacting - if they really think pedestrianisation would stop attacks from happening, then they're deluded - what would simply happen is people won't use cars as weapons and go back to more traditional weapons. None of them have clearly thought about the knock on effect it would have to traffic either. |
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Post by sid on Aug 15, 2018 11:28:53 GMT
It's another case of people overreacting - if they really think pedestrianisation would stop attacks from happening, then they're deluded - what would simply happen is people won't use cars as weapons and go back to more traditional weapons. None of them have clearly thought about the knock on effect it would have to traffic either. What it would stop is anybody getting near the Houses of Parliament with a large vehicle bomb or using the vehicle itself as a weapon. |
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Post by vjaska on Aug 15, 2018 11:37:02 GMT
It's another case of people overreacting - if they really think pedestrianisation would stop attacks from happening, then they're deluded - what would simply happen is people won't use cars as weapons and go back to more traditional weapons. None of them have clearly thought about the knock on effect it would have to traffic either. What it would stop is anybody getting near the Houses of Parliament with a large vehicle bomb or using the vehicle itself as a weapon. I've already addressed that point above and just to add, it would simply move the problem on to other landmarks and then we'll end pedestrianising half of London in the process. |
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Post by 6HP502C on Aug 15, 2018 23:21:25 GMT
It's another case of people overreacting - if they really think pedestrianisation would stop attacks from happening, then they're deluded - what would simply happen is people won't use cars as weapons and go back to more traditional weapons. None of them have clearly thought about the knock on effect it would have to traffic either. Safety takes precedence...London Bridge has effectively lost its bus lanes but it is a small price to pay to protect pedestrians. |
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bus.data.tfl.gov.uk/boroughreports/routes/performance-route-482.pdf . A significant amount of that has had roadworks on South Road which is a bit unlucky, but the Sunday shopping hours have never had enough time to take into account traffic on Western Road and in Hounslow West 
. The 207, 427 and 607 struggle up the Uxbridge Road and The Broadway. Lastly, southbound Lady Margaret Road can get quite congested, affecting the E5, 105, 95 and 120. Pretty much most main roads in Southall all have quite a bit of traffic at certain, unpredictable times.
