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Post by Pilot on Nov 20, 2018 2:21:26 GMT
Must be route/bus specific, not seen those ones.
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Post by Londonbuses54 on Nov 20, 2018 6:47:33 GMT
It was on one of the 67 plate 336’s last night. I was at the back, but it didn’t seem like the driver played it, because most of the time it was whilst the bus was moving
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 20, 2018 16:39:36 GMT
I don't see why the public doesn't understand that if you need to top up your oyster after the ETM does the double beep and you ask the driver to wait,they can't because they've got a timetable to keep to
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Post by redbus on Nov 20, 2018 16:46:12 GMT
I don't see why the public doesn't understand that if you need to top up your oyster after the ETM does the double beep and you ask the driver to wait,they can't because they've got a timetable to keep to Never mind the timetable, what about consideration for your fellow passengers that you are keeping waiting? |
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 20, 2018 16:52:54 GMT
I don't see why the public doesn't understand that if you need to top up your oyster after the ETM does the double beep and you ask the driver to wait,they can't because they've got a timetable to keep to Never mind the timetable, what about consideration for your fellow passengers that you are keeping waiting? Exactly,they at least checked/topped up their balance beforehand |
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Post by sid on Nov 20, 2018 16:57:59 GMT
I don't see why the public doesn't understand that if you need to top up your oyster after the ETM does the double beep and you ask the driver to wait,they can't because they've got a timetable to keep to Never mind the timetable, what about consideration for your fellow passengers that you are keeping waiting? And I wonder how much revenue is being lost through them getting a free ride as a result? Faulty chip seems to be a common reason/excuse. |
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Post by ibus246 on Nov 20, 2018 18:13:40 GMT
I don't see why the public doesn't understand that if you need to top up your oyster after the ETM does the double beep and you ask the driver to wait,they can't because they've got a timetable to keep to Really? |
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Post by redbus on Nov 20, 2018 18:59:07 GMT
I don't see why the public doesn't understand that if you need to top up your oyster after the ETM does the double beep and you ask the driver to wait,they can't because they've got a timetable to keep to Really? Arguably there should be top up machines on buses precisely for such situations! |
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 20, 2018 19:06:14 GMT
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 20, 2018 19:09:49 GMT
The obvious issue there is you have to then bring back the whole cash processing procedure which TfL got rid of a few years ago as it was too costly. If you are paying by a card chances are you can use Contactless anyway. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 20, 2018 19:14:59 GMT
The obvious issue there is you have to then bring back the whole cash processing procedure which TfL got rid of a few years ago as it was too costly. If you are paying by a card chances are you can use Contactless anyway. You could only be allowed to use cash at the topup machine not directly as the fare to topup your card.Just some *slight* modifications to the machine would be needed |
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on Nov 20, 2018 19:29:16 GMT
The obvious issue there is you have to then bring back the whole cash processing procedure which TfL got rid of a few years ago as it was too costly. If you are paying by a card chances are you can use Contactless anyway. You could only be allowed to use cash at the topup machine not directly as the fare to topup your card.Just some *slight* modifications to the machine would be needed But if you have to use the cash on an on board top up machine someone still has to pay for the administration of the cash, by which point TfL could have just continued accepting cash on the buses. |
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 20, 2018 19:55:26 GMT
You could only be allowed to use cash at the topup machine not directly as the fare to topup your card.Just some *slight* modifications to the machine would be needed But if you have to use the cash on an on board top up machine someone still has to pay for the administration of the cash, by which point TfL could have just continued accepting cash on the buses. True point,didn't think of that |
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Post by galwhv69 on Nov 21, 2018 15:58:58 GMT
Someone was lighting a lighter for fun on T88,that is so dangerous!
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Post by snoggle on Nov 21, 2018 16:28:44 GMT
Based on a Twitter exchange with London Travelwatch it seems that you will not be able to buy Travelcard season tickets on paper tickets (so mag stripe) within the Greater London / Oyster PAYG area from next January. All Travelcard seasons will HAVE to be issued on Oyster cards. This does NOT apply to point to point season tickets nor Out Boundary + Travelcard seasons (the latter can only be bought outside the zonal area).
This creates an interesting dilemma because it means almost all TOC Travelcard season ticket sales will HAVE to be via passenger operated machines as so few TOC ticket offices have the ability to issue Travelcard seasons on Oyster Cards. Some TOCs are already pushing their season ticket sales for tickets starting outside Greater London to be on the Key or their own version of ITSO Smartcards.
It is also rumoured that Oyster PAYG will be extended to Hertford North on Great Northern and Epsom (both SWR and Southern routes) from early January. Seems SWR (First / MTR) are more ameanable that Stagecoach were to Oyster and Failing Grayling hasn't decided to interfere.
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*I know of a few companies in Poland at least
