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Post by londonbusboy on May 18, 2019 15:34:20 GMT
What starts to annoy me lately is people think they got trick up their sleeves at how they stop the bus...they think because they wiggle the hand in a funny way the bus driver will stop right next to them. This is mostly the case in very busy bus stops where space could potentially be an issue so they try to wave or do something special to make sure you stop next to them and so they can board first and then in half cases they give you look of madness if you don't...which of course I don't because I don't stop for just one person. I dont stop at those people. The ones that barge on for the front seat and say im coming back to do my pass or just stand there hunting
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Post by Pilot on May 18, 2019 15:39:26 GMT
What starts to annoy me lately is people think they got trick up their sleeves at how they stop the bus...they think because they wiggle the hand in a funny way the bus driver will stop right next to them. This is mostly the case in very busy bus stops where space could potentially be an issue so they try to wave or do something special to make sure you stop next to them and so they can board first and then in half cases they give you look of madness if you don't...which of course I don't because I don't stop for just one person. I dont stop at those people. The ones that barge on for the front seat and say im coming back to do my pass or just stand there hunting I don't acknowledge those people because they're waste of time, they've got no manners so don't really deserve it back and in other cases they be nearly falling over when the bus moves because they take 5 mins to look through their handbag when they sort of expect you to wait for them to find it or something, which sometimes I do to show how much time they are wasting.
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Post by kmkcheng on May 18, 2019 16:09:07 GMT
What starts to annoy me lately is people think they got trick up their sleeves at how they stop the bus...they think because they wiggle the hand in a funny way the bus driver will stop right next to them. This is mostly the case in very busy bus stops where space could potentially be an issue so they try to wave or do something special to make sure you stop next to them and so they can board first and then in half cases they give you look of madness if you don't...which of course I don't because I don't stop for just one person. One thing I found annoying and dangerous is if someone is running for the bus as it approaches a stop, they start running out onto the road forcing a driver to slow down. It’s not just a London thing as I have also seen it happen in Hong Kong
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Post by 6HP502C on May 18, 2019 17:02:39 GMT
What starts to annoy me lately is people think they got trick up their sleeves at how they stop the bus...they think because they wiggle the hand in a funny way the bus driver will stop right next to them. This is mostly the case in very busy bus stops where space could potentially be an issue so they try to wave or do something special to make sure you stop next to them and so they can board first and then in half cases they give you look of madness if you don't...which of course I don't because I don't stop for just one person. I don't really mind those people too much to be honest - if they're really that keen to get on first then fair play to them. I'm not so scientific with where I stop - normally I'll just line the mirror up with the bus stop flag and open the doors. If I can see there's someone who might need a seat more than others I'll stop to let them on first. Another category of passenger is those who get on to record the ride, which I will entertain and stop so they can get their seat at the back However all this depends on the operational conditions. If I can see there are one or more buses behind me that also need space, I'll go right to the front of the cage. But even then, that is subject to there not being any road furniture blocking the back doors, like stop flags, bins or bus stop shelters.
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Post by Pilot on May 18, 2019 17:13:18 GMT
What starts to annoy me lately is people think they got trick up their sleeves at how they stop the bus...they think because they wiggle the hand in a funny way the bus driver will stop right next to them. This is mostly the case in very busy bus stops where space could potentially be an issue so they try to wave or do something special to make sure you stop next to them and so they can board first and then in half cases they give you look of madness if you don't...which of course I don't because I don't stop for just one person. One thing I found annoying and dangerous is if someone is running for the bus as it approaches a stop, they start running out onto the road forcing a driver to slow down. It’s not just a London thing as I have also seen it happen in Hong Kong Those people can wait for next bus.
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Post by Pilot on May 18, 2019 17:15:02 GMT
What starts to annoy me lately is people think they got trick up their sleeves at how they stop the bus...they think because they wiggle the hand in a funny way the bus driver will stop right next to them. This is mostly the case in very busy bus stops where space could potentially be an issue so they try to wave or do something special to make sure you stop next to them and so they can board first and then in half cases they give you look of madness if you don't...which of course I don't because I don't stop for just one person. I don't really mind those people too much to be honest - if they're really that keen to get on first then fair play to them. I'm not so scientific with where I stop - normally I'll just line the mirror up with the bus stop flag and open the doors. If I can see there's someone who might need a seat more than others I'll stop to let them on first. Another category of passenger is those who get on to record the ride, which I will entertain and stop so they can get their seat at the back However all this depends on the operational conditions. If I can see there are one or more buses behind me that also need space, I'll go right to the front of the cage. But even then, that is subject to there not being any road furniture blocking the back doors, like stop flags, bins or bus stop shelters. Kudos for you understanding how to stop your bus when there is 2-3 more buses behind you, a lot of bus drivers don't care to check mirror to see if they need to make space for another bus. But I had A LOT of instances where I help another driver by stopping all the way at the front of the cage (and obviously in most cases the pole is right in the middle of it) so people gotta walk all the way to the front giving me the looks or complaints, they don't care to know why you've done it because the world evolves around them.
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Post by londonbusboy on May 18, 2019 17:47:56 GMT
I dont stop at those people. The ones that barge on for the front seat and say im coming back to do my pass or just stand there hunting I don't acknowledge those people because they're waste of time, they've got no manners so don't really deserve it back and in other cases they be nearly falling over when the bus moves because they take 5 mins to look through their handbag when they sort of expect you to wait for them to find it or something, which sometimes I do to show how much time they are wasting. I used to do that for the exact same reason. Loved when they shouted drive no ill wait for your pass thank you
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Post by londonbusboy on May 18, 2019 17:53:46 GMT
What starts to annoy me lately is people think they got trick up their sleeves at how they stop the bus...they think because they wiggle the hand in a funny way the bus driver will stop right next to them. This is mostly the case in very busy bus stops where space could potentially be an issue so they try to wave or do something special to make sure you stop next to them and so they can board first and then in half cases they give you look of madness if you don't...which of course I don't because I don't stop for just one person. One thing I found annoying and dangerous is if someone is running for the bus as it approaches a stop, they start running out onto the road forcing a driver to slow down. It’s not just a London thing as I have also seen it happen in Hong Kong Car drivers turning from a main road into a side road across your path and not looking to see if the side road is clear. Bus then has to slam on or swerve!
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Post by busaholic on May 18, 2019 17:55:32 GMT
I don't really mind those people too much to be honest - if they're really that keen to get on first then fair play to them. I'm not so scientific with where I stop - normally I'll just line the mirror up with the bus stop flag and open the doors. If I can see there's someone who might need a seat more than others I'll stop to let them on first. Another category of passenger is those who get on to record the ride, which I will entertain and stop so they can get their seat at the back However all this depends on the operational conditions. If I can see there are one or more buses behind me that also need space, I'll go right to the front of the cage. But even then, that is subject to there not being any road furniture blocking the back doors, like stop flags, bins or bus stop shelters. Kudos for you understanding how to stop your bus when there is 2-3 more buses behind you, a lot of bus drivers don't care to check mirror to see if they need to make space for another bus. But I had A LOT of instances where I help another driver by stopping all the way at the front of the cage (and obviously in most cases the pole is right in the middle of it) so people gotta walk all the way to the front giving me the looks or complaints, they don't care to know why you've done it because the world evolves around them. If you got such a complaint, would you respond? I hasten to add I've never made one (so far) but I've been known to give a look on occasion where there was no apparent reason for the bus to do that.
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Post by Pilot on May 18, 2019 18:05:03 GMT
Kudos for you understanding how to stop your bus when there is 2-3 more buses behind you, a lot of bus drivers don't care to check mirror to see if they need to make space for another bus. But I had A LOT of instances where I help another driver by stopping all the way at the front of the cage (and obviously in most cases the pole is right in the middle of it) so people gotta walk all the way to the front giving me the looks or complaints, they don't care to know why you've done it because the world evolves around them. If you got such a complaint, would you respond? I hasten to add I've never made one (so far) but I've been known to give a look on occasion where there was no apparent reason for the bus to do that. I had plenty of times, mostly from older people because a lot of them are nagging for anything or giving a lot of AH OH stepping onto a bus if you don't kneel and stop inch perfect...I only really had big complaints like twice where one woman wouldn't stop nagging about it and as I tried to politely explain why I've done it she kept talking over me and then yapping about it to other passengers. (You know exactly what I was telling her in my head tho lol).
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Post by Pilot on May 18, 2019 18:09:57 GMT
I don't acknowledge those people because they're waste of time, they've got no manners so don't really deserve it back and in other cases they be nearly falling over when the bus moves because they take 5 mins to look through their handbag when they sort of expect you to wait for them to find it or something, which sometimes I do to show how much time they are wasting. I used to do that for the exact same reason. Loved when they shouted drive no ill wait for your pass thank you Chances of them not having a pass is kind of low anyways, reason I refuse to move in many cases is because I mostly drive single decks and as they're almost twice as light as double deck, it throws people off when I move off and they need to catch a railing because it's very unstable for people to walk as the bus is moving it's not even funny how dangerous single decks can be.
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Post by 6HP502C on May 18, 2019 18:16:05 GMT
I used to do that for the exact same reason. Loved when they shouted drive no ill wait for your pass thank you Chances of them not having a pass is kind of low anyways, reason I refuse to move in many cases is because I mostly drive single decks and as they're almost twice as light as double deck, it throws people off when I move off and they need to catch a railing because it's very unstable for people to walk as the bus is moving it's not even funny how dangerous single decks can be. Ah quite a few people who do that rely on the driver's apathy as a fare evasion tactic. As soon as you move, it's an invitation for them to go and take a seat. It happened to me once when driving the 3 where I had to waste time calling them back and ever since, I waited indefinitely for people fumbling through their bag after boarding to either show a valid pass or get off.
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Post by 6HP502C on May 18, 2019 18:28:38 GMT
This is so sad, that not even an enthusiast wants to use the daytime buses anymore in central London. Thing is I put a value on my time, and there is an opportunity cost to sitting on buses that move at a fraction of walking pace when I could be using that time to do more profitable or fulfilling things. I use the Underground to get around Central London. Unfortunately other people have also voted with their feet. Most of the issues with bus speeds in Central London are down to factors outside of the control of the buses.
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Post by sid on May 18, 2019 19:12:55 GMT
A slightly odd notice on one of bus stops outside the Whitgift Centre in Wellesley Road in Croydon telling of route changes in Central London and that routes from that stop will be affected.
As far as I'm aware the only change to buses in Croydon will be the change of stand for the 468 at Elephant & Castle?
I wonder how much money has been spent/wasted putting up these notices that will mean absolutely nothing to most people in Croydon?
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Post by Volvo on May 18, 2019 19:30:25 GMT
What starts to annoy me lately is people think they got trick up their sleeves at how they stop the bus...they think because they wiggle the hand in a funny way the bus driver will stop right next to them. This is mostly the case in very busy bus stops where space could potentially be an issue so they try to wave or do something special to make sure you stop next to them and so they can board first and then in half cases they give you look of madness if you don't...which of course I don't because I don't stop for just one person. Same, I also find that fanning hands annoying.
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