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Post by Volvo on May 19, 2019 11:54:14 GMT
I took my son to the LT museum today and that meant more trips on the 139. On the way back boarded a surprisingly full bus on the Strand, and we left people behind at Charing Cross station. Clearly following the axing of all the other routes, the 139 could no longer cope...please note TfL. Yes I can vouch for the 139 receiving alot of patronage throughout west end and many only go about 3-5 stops.
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Post by Pilot on May 19, 2019 12:01:44 GMT
What’s the fastest accelerating bus in London? BYD ADL EV if I had to guess.
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Post by rif153 on May 19, 2019 15:28:36 GMT
I took my son to the LT museum today and that meant more trips on the 139. On the way back boarded a surprisingly full bus on the Strand, and we left people behind at Charing Cross station. Clearly following the axing of all the other routes, the 139 could no longer cope...please note TfL. Yes I can vouch for the 139 receiving alot of patronage throughout west end and many only go about 3-5 stops. The 139 really needs some support now its the only route on the Oxford Circus-Strand axis. It seems crazy to think there used to be five routes providing this connection: 6, 13, 15, 23 and 139 but TFL's stupidity has lead to there being just one now, they made a complete has of the Finchley Road changes and the 10/23
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Post by sid on May 19, 2019 15:49:39 GMT
quote author=" beaver14uk" source="/post/501170/thread" timestamp="1558279111"] How do you know, you don't. Nothing to do with this thread but you posted it. quote author=" sid" source="/post/501057/thread" timestamp="1558213929"] Bus stops are not just closed for the sake of it. Well, nothing to do with this thread but two stops in Sussex Road in South Croydon are closed for the sake of it as you put it.[/quote] [/quote] Two stops in Sussex Road closed off yesterday, no roadworks everything was as it would normally be. Any ideas as to why they were closed yesterday, and maybe today for all I know?
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Post by VPL630 on May 19, 2019 21:16:23 GMT
What’s the fastest accelerating bus in London? BYD ADL EV if I had to guess. After being throw about one on the 46 today with my partner, I think they need to be restricted, The way the driver accelerated away from stops nearly sent multiple people flying including me when I was trying to make my way to the seats at the back.
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Post by Pilot on May 19, 2019 22:59:01 GMT
BYD ADL EV if I had to guess. After being throw about one on the 46 today with my partner, I think they need to be restricted, The way the driver accelerated away from stops nearly sent multiple people flying including me when I was trying to make my way to the seats at the back. That's the case with diesel new SD MMC's in general though, and I do believe they're restricted in first place if I am correct and it's still bad lol, it's just gonna be dangerous regardless due to odd weight distribution or something and weird gearing on diesels, for some reason however I do think on fully EV bus the acceleration timings could be easily adjusted because they got no gears but someone probably has better answers.
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Post by redbus on May 19, 2019 23:12:15 GMT
BYD ADL EV if I had to guess. After being throw about one on the 46 today with my partner, I think they need to be restricted, The way the driver accelerated away from stops nearly sent multiple people flying including me when I was trying to make my way to the seats at the back. I have no idea why this happened on your journey, but as regular using the ADL BYD EVs on the 46, I have generally found them to be smooth and I can't say I have been thrown about.
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Post by Londonbuses54 on May 20, 2019 5:34:40 GMT
After being throw about one on the 46 today with my partner, I think they need to be restricted, The way the driver accelerated away from stops nearly sent multiple people flying including me when I was trying to make my way to the seats at the back. I have no idea why this happened on your journey, but as regular using the ADL BYD EVs on the 46, I have generally found them to be smooth and I can't say I have been thrown about. Ive has this happen on the C1. Sometimes, when a driver presses the gas whilst on with the brake, either of them slightly, it sent the bus to a quick and very jumpy acceleration. Never had that with the GAL ones though
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Post by 6HP502C on May 20, 2019 7:26:57 GMT
What’s the fastest accelerating bus in London? How do you measure acceleration? Time taken to reach 10mph? 30mph? 50mph? I usually use time taken to 30mph on a flat road as a basis for comparison. I haven't experienced any of these electric buses so would throw in the DW class DB300s for double deckers and now the 14.240s at Metrobus have gone, maybe the Citaro K.
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Post by busman on May 20, 2019 8:23:46 GMT
Google maps is telling me that the 180 runs beyond Lewisham serves stops that parallels the 122 through Lee, Eltham and into Woolwich. Is it just an error on my app? Click on a 122 bus stop between Lewisham and Woolwich Common and the 180 is listed - but for obvious reasons nothing is showing for it in the arrivals :-)
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Post by Pilot on May 20, 2019 9:37:26 GMT
I have no idea why this happened on your journey, but as regular using the ADL BYD EVs on the 46, I have generally found them to be smooth and I can't say I have been thrown about. Ive has this happen on the C1. Sometimes, when a driver presses the gas whilst on with the brake, either of them slightly, it sent the bus to a quick and very jumpy acceleration. Never had that with the GAL ones though Yeah because after serving the stop driver must press brakes before accelerating pedal can be pressed, 9 out of 10 times you'll get that because drivers have no patience with this system.
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Post by VPL630 on May 20, 2019 10:33:56 GMT
After being throw about one on the 46 today with my partner, I think they need to be restricted, The way the driver accelerated away from stops nearly sent multiple people flying including me when I was trying to make my way to the seats at the back. I have no idea why this happened on your journey, but as regular using the ADL BYD EVs on the 46, I have generally found them to be smooth and I can't say I have been thrown about. To be fair this driver didn’t have a clue about smooth or safe driving and in my personal opinion needs to be sent retraining, I’m all for a fast ride but not at the cost of passengers saftey, while you may travel on said route and said buses frequently, you can’t account for every driver.
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Post by VPL630 on May 20, 2019 10:36:20 GMT
Ive has this happen on the C1. Sometimes, when a driver presses the gas whilst on with the brake, either of them slightly, it sent the bus to a quick and very jumpy acceleration. Never had that with the GAL ones though Yeah because after serving the stop driver must press brakes before accelerating pedal can be pressed, 9 out of 10 times you'll get that because drivers have no patience with this system. Quite frankly it’s a stupid system and causes more frustration than accidental pull aways, I had 2 TA’s the other day on the 247 and what a breeze in the park that was with no stupid tapping the brake to release the halt brake
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Post by Pilot on May 20, 2019 10:46:25 GMT
Yeah because after serving the stop driver must press brakes before accelerating pedal can be pressed, 9 out of 10 times you'll get that because drivers have no patience with this system. Quite frankly it’s a stupid system and causes more frustration than accidental pull aways, I had 2 TA’s the other day on the 247 and what a breeze in the park that was with no stupid tapping the brake to release the halt brake Yep, plus if confuses car drivers especially at night, when they are nice enough and flash you or wait behind bus when you indicate right but then driver taps on brakes few times which sends a wrong message to car behind thinking bus driver is sort of giving message back 'pass me' lol...not gonna lie this is so common and then the car sort of starts pulling out behind of bus and then bus of course starts moving making the whole process unprofessional but oh well...
As for your retrain comment, it's super unlikely the company will send driver for retain due to your reasons, it's mostly only when driver has accident or bad braking but for bad braking they will warn you to improve it weeks in advance before that would even take place so you can still improve and the retrain will be cancelled. Drivers get frustrated sometimes so the whole pulling away experience can become crappy for passenger, you will not fix this problem, potentially this driver has been driving for 5hrs he's just running out of steam for your perfection stops, good customer service and energy, this job literally requires mentally strong people because it's not a ride in the park for what you get paid.
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Post by Eastlondoner62 on May 20, 2019 11:01:19 GMT
Quite frankly it’s a stupid system and causes more frustration than accidental pull aways, I had 2 TA’s the other day on the 247 and what a breeze in the park that was with no stupid tapping the brake to release the halt brake Yep, plus if confuses car drivers especially at night, when they are nice enough and flash you or wait behind bus when you indicate right but then driver taps on brakes few times which sends a wrong message to car behind thinking bus driver is sort of giving message back 'pass me' lol...not gonna lie this is so common and then the car sort of starts pulling out behind of bus and then bus of course starts moving making the whole process unprofessional but oh well...
As for your retrain comment, it's super unlikely the company will send driver for retain due to your reasons, it's mostly only when driver has accident or bad braking but for bad braking they will warn you to improve it weeks in advance before that would even take place so you can still improve and the retrain will be cancelled. Drivers get frustrated sometimes so the whole pulling away experience can become crappy for passenger, you will not fix this problem, potentially this driver has been driving for 5hrs he's just running out of steam for your perfection stops, good customer service and energy, this job literally requires mentally strong people because it's not a ride in the park for what you get paid.
Can't begin to think of the amount of times I've done that, let a bus go only for it to flash the brake light making me think it's safe to perform an overtake then it starts pulling out. Hopefully I'll be more wary of such situations now.
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