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Post by VPL630 on May 20, 2019 12:39:19 GMT
Quite frankly it’s a stupid system and causes more frustration than accidental pull aways, I had 2 TA’s the other day on the 247 and what a breeze in the park that was with no stupid tapping the brake to release the halt brake Yep, plus if confuses car drivers especially at night, when they are nice enough and flash you or wait behind bus when you indicate right but then driver taps on brakes few times which sends a wrong message to car behind thinking bus driver is sort of giving message back 'pass me' lol...not gonna lie this is so common and then the car sort of starts pulling out behind of bus and then bus of course starts moving making the whole process unprofessional but oh well... As for your retrain comment, it's super unlikely the company will send driver for retain due to your reasons, it's mostly only when driver has accident or bad braking but for bad braking they will warn you to improve it weeks in advance before that would even take place so you can still improve and the retrain will be cancelled. Drivers get frustrated sometimes so the whole pulling away experience can become crappy for passenger, you will not fix this problem, potentially this driver has been driving for 5hrs he's just running out of steam for your perfection stops, good customer service and energy, this job literally requires mentally strong people because it's not a ride in the park for what you get paid.
It's unlikely he will get sent for retaining because I didn't write a complaint or report him, I just had a quick word when we got off. Drivers can and will be sent for retraining for anything related to driving standards.
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Post by vjaska on May 20, 2019 13:25:06 GMT
Yep, plus if confuses car drivers especially at night, when they are nice enough and flash you or wait behind bus when you indicate right but then driver taps on brakes few times which sends a wrong message to car behind thinking bus driver is sort of giving message back 'pass me' lol...not gonna lie this is so common and then the car sort of starts pulling out behind of bus and then bus of course starts moving making the whole process unprofessional but oh well... As for your retrain comment, it's super unlikely the company will send driver for retain due to your reasons, it's mostly only when driver has accident or bad braking but for bad braking they will warn you to improve it weeks in advance before that would even take place so you can still improve and the retrain will be cancelled. Drivers get frustrated sometimes so the whole pulling away experience can become crappy for passenger, you will not fix this problem, potentially this driver has been driving for 5hrs he's just running out of steam for your perfection stops, good customer service and energy, this job literally requires mentally strong people because it's not a ride in the park for what you get paid.
It's unlikely he will get sent for retaining because I didn't write a complaint or report him, I just had a quick word when we got off. Drivers can and will be sent for retraining for anything related to driving standards. What was the drivers reaction?
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Post by beaver14uk on May 20, 2019 14:27:41 GMT
Marathon diversions quote author=" busman" source="/post/501277/thread" timestamp="1558340626"]Google maps is telling me that the 180 runs beyond Lewisham serves stops that parallels the 122 through Lee, Eltham and into Woolwich. Is it just an error on my app? Click on a 122 bus stop between Lewisham and Woolwich Common and the 180 is listed - but for obvious reasons nothing is showing for it in the arrivals :-)[/quote]
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Post by Londonbuses54 on May 20, 2019 18:30:41 GMT
Do the MB citaros have Mobitec or Hanover controllers?
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Post by londonbusboy on May 20, 2019 20:20:41 GMT
Do the MB citaros have Mobitec or Hanover controllers? Mobitec, only MBK1 has Hanover
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Post by londonbusboy on May 20, 2019 20:27:14 GMT
BYD ADL EV if I had to guess. After being throw about one on the 46 today with my partner, I think they need to be restricted, The way the driver accelerated away from stops nearly sent multiple people flying including me when I was trying to make my way to the seats at the back. Were you not holding onto poles as you went down the bus?
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Post by COBO on May 20, 2019 20:36:29 GMT
I think that 395s going to Westway Cross should just display Westway Cross on their blinds because people get confused by the Greenford part when the blinds displays Greenford Westway Cross. When people read the blinds they read the Greenford part and not the Greenford Westway Cross part and assume that the 395 is going to Greenford Broadway. The amount of times I’ve seen people get angry because the 395 dropped them off at Westway Cross and not Greenford Broadway is unbelievable.
I was sitting at the stop at Westway Cross waiting for a 395 to take me home when a 395 terminating at a Westway Cross arrives the drives tells passengers that this bus is terminating here every one gets off except one lady. So driver turns the lights on and off. The lady wouldn’t listen. So he’s starts revving the bus. This got the ladies attention. And the driver tells her that the bus terminates here and you have to get off the bus. The woman got very peeed off and says “this ain’t Greenford” you’ve bought be the wrong place”. The driver ignored her and told her to get off the bus. The lady gets off the bus still fuming. The driver then shuts the doors and then goes out of service back to PA. But the woman still fuming bangs on the bus yelling at the driver saying that he bought her to the wrong place. I’ve got his number I’m going to TfL because the driver didn’t take me to Greenford. I had to inform her that this is Greenford. Then she replies this ain’t Greenford we’re is the bus garage. Assuming that she meant Metroline’s G garage. I told her to go to Greenford Station for the 92. For some reason she waited at the Westway Stop thinking that a 92 would go to the Westway Cross stop. just then a Harrow bound 395 arrived I got on. She asked where was I going? And I replied saying that I was going to Harrow. She then asks me where she get the 92? And said that she can get the 92 from Greenford Station it’s just a 5 minute walk. Then she followed my instructions and walked towards to Greenford Station for the 92.
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Post by portman227 on May 21, 2019 13:21:22 GMT
What’s the fastest accelerating bus in London? BYD ADL EV if I had to guess. They are extremely quick to 25-30 and after they run out of steam. Probably can't do more than 35. That electric instant torque propels it to speed rapidly. I would say the MAN evolutions or a healthy Citaro.
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Post by snoggle on May 21, 2019 16:25:37 GMT
Just to note that Old Street roundabout will cease to be a roundabout from 27 May 2019. The new gyratory arrangement will come into to service then. Over the weekend parts of Moorgate and Old St (west) will be closed resulting in some potentially interesting diversions or curtailments for the 21, 141, 271, 214, 76, 43, 55, 205, 243, 135. The list of routes is off the top of my head so may not be 100% correct.
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Post by sid on May 21, 2019 16:41:09 GMT
Driver on the 476 allegedly driving with the back door open. Is that actually possible? I can't get the video to play on my phone?
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Post by Londonbuses54 on May 21, 2019 16:45:56 GMT
Driver on the 476 allegedly driving with the back door open. Is that actually possible? Yes it happened to me once. It was one of the WVL first day on the 51. They seemed to have all sorts of problems on that day. The driver didn’t choose to though, they wouldn’t shut
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Post by brutxi on May 21, 2019 16:54:45 GMT
Just to note that Old Street roundabout will cease to be a roundabout from 27 May 2019. The new gyratory arrangement will come into to service then. Over the weekend parts of Moorgate and Old St (west) will be closed resulting in some potentially interesting diversions or curtailments for the 21, 141, 271, 214, 76, 43, 55, 205, 243, 135. The list of routes is off the top of my head so may not be 100% correct. I understand the need for a safer environment for cyclist/pedestrians but this scheme is just poorly designed. Traffic congestion is bad enough as it is during peak periods. Surely it would have been better to either restrict motor vehicles/private hire vehicles/taxis but no one wants a compromise (Taxi demos). It seems a lot of the tech companies around that area tend to use them.
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Post by sid on May 21, 2019 17:06:08 GMT
Just to note that Old Street roundabout will cease to be a roundabout from 27 May 2019. The new gyratory arrangement will come into to service then. Over the weekend parts of Moorgate and Old St (west) will be closed resulting in some potentially interesting diversions or curtailments for the 21, 141, 271, 214, 76, 43, 55, 205, 243, 135. The list of routes is off the top of my head so may not be 100% correct. I understand the need for a safer environment for cyclist/pedestrians but this scheme is just poorly designed. Traffic congestion is bad enough as it is during peak periods. Surely it would have been better to either restrict motor vehicles/private hire vehicles/taxis but no one wants a compromise (Taxi demos). It seems a lot of the tech companies around that area tend to use them. Old Street roundabout has been an accident black spot for years and not just for cyclists, improvements were long overdue
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Post by sid on May 21, 2019 17:13:50 GMT
Driver on the 476 allegedly driving with the back door open. Is that actually possible? Yes it happened to me once. It was one of the WVL first day on the 51. They seemed to have all sorts of problems on that day. The driver didn’t choose to though, they wouldn’t shut I thought there was a safety feature preventing the bus being moved with plug doors open but clearly not. I think the driver might have some explaining to do.
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Post by vjaska on May 21, 2019 17:14:04 GMT
I understand the need for a safer environment for cyclist/pedestrians but this scheme is just poorly designed. Traffic congestion is bad enough as it is during peak periods. Surely it would have been better to either restrict motor vehicles/private hire vehicles/taxis but no one wants a compromise (Taxi demos). It seems a lot of the tech companies around that area tend to use them. Old Street roundabout has been an accident black spot for years and not just for cyclists, improvements were long overdue They could of improved it without wasting money on it - as the poster above said, a restriction like at Bank could of easily achieved the same result. Just another example of scapegoating a perfectly reasonable roundabout if people actually concentrated on driving properly rather than everyone needing their hands held.
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