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Post by Tangy on Mar 17, 2010 20:03:52 GMT
A set of traffic lights in Bristol have been switched off in an experiment to see whether it actaully improves traffic flow. The lights at the bottom of Union Street in Broadmead were turned off. Bristol City Council want to measure how efficiently the junction now works without the signals. Councillor Jon Rogers is Cabinet Member for Transport and Sustainability. He said: "Firstly it's important to stress that we've carefully assessed these sites for safety before switch-off. The trial is intended to tease out people's reactions so that we can all gain a greater understanding of each other's perspective as road users on wheels or on foot. "Many motorists do not understand why we need traffic lights at some junctions. Some commentators agree. They think that people in cars can learn to be as good-mannered as they are on foot - letting people cross and pull out without the need for controls. "But there are other voices too. Over the next few weeks as we trial this approach, we will hear not only from motorists whose views are already well-documented, but from pedestrians, including disabled people - and in particular those with visual impairment or mobility impairment. If we are looking to reduce signals, we need to carefully consider their perspective." However, Mike Holroyd, from Action For Blind People, based in Bedminster, does not think it is safe: "Putting a bag over a perfectly decent set of working traffic lights is not going to prove anything, and the people for whom it's not going to prove anything the most are actually the people who most need them. That is blind and partially sited people, disabled people and old people who need the existing priorities we have to help in a journey." In a seperate test, the signals on Broad Quay at the junction with Prince Street will also be turned off. Thanks to: www.jackbristol.com/newscentre/bristols-news/first-traffic-lights-turned-off-in-bristol-3970 |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 18, 2010 0:09:35 GMT
A set of traffic lights in Bristol have been switched off in an experiment to see whether it actaully improves traffic flow. The lights at the bottom of Union Street in Broadmead were turned off. Bristol City Council want to measure how efficiently the junction now works without the signals. Councillor Jon Rogers is Cabinet Member for Transport and Sustainability. He said: "Firstly it's important to stress that we've carefully assessed these sites for safety before switch-off. The trial is intended to tease out people's reactions so that we can all gain a greater understanding of each other's perspective as road users on wheels or on foot. "Many motorists do not understand why we need traffic lights at some junctions. Some commentators agree. They think that people in cars can learn to be as good-mannered as they are on foot - letting people cross and pull out without the need for controls. "But there are other voices too. Over the next few weeks as we trial this approach, we will hear not only from motorists whose views are already well-documented, but from pedestrians, including disabled people - and in particular those with visual impairment or mobility impairment. If we are looking to reduce signals, we need to carefully consider their perspective." However, Mike Holroyd, from Action For Blind People, based in Bedminster, does not think it is safe: "Putting a bag over a perfectly decent set of working traffic lights is not going to prove anything, and the people for whom it's not going to prove anything the most are actually the people who most need them. That is blind and partially sited people, disabled people and old people who need the existing priorities we have to help in a journey." In a seperate test, the signals on Broad Quay at the junction with Prince Street will also be turned off. Thanks to: www.jackbristol.com/newscentre/bristols-news/first-traffic-lights-turned-off-in-bristol-3970They want to start doing that in London, far too many traffic lights and yet they still seem to be putting more up. Maybe having more traffic lights increases obesity if you see where I'm coming from ;D |
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Post by Paul on Mar 18, 2010 14:55:23 GMT
They want to start doing that in London, far too many traffic lights and yet they still seem to be putting more up I was sitting at traffic lights in Bromley the other day and started counting them up in my head. From the top of Masons Hill at The Dripping Tap to Bromley Magistrates Court there are 18 sets of traffic lights!! In only one and a half miles! Actually, I think I've mentioned before when traffic lights have failed that traffic seems to move a lot more freely, quickly and yet still safely. It's happened twice to me; firstly at the Robin Hood in Anerley and secondly at Masons Hill in Bromley. On both occasions there were no problems |
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Post by vjaska on Mar 18, 2010 18:59:10 GMT
They want to start doing that in London, far too many traffic lights and yet they still seem to be putting more up I was sitting at traffic lights in Bromley the other day and started counting them up in my head. From the top of Masons Hill at The Dripping Tap to Bromley Magistrates Court there are 18 sets of traffic lights!! In only one and a half miles! Actually, I think I've mentioned before when traffic lights have failed that traffic seems to move a lot more freely, quickly and yet still safely. It's happened twice to me; firstly at the Robin Hood in Anerley and secondly at Masons Hill in Bromley. On both occasions there were no problems I remember the Robin Hood traffic lights failure, my 157 journeys were much quicker than usual ;D. Brixton Hill has too many traffic lights. Since the early 00's, we have had three pelican crossings put in to a road already full of traffic lights. To improve traffic flow, I reckon removing the Elm Park/Jebb Avenue, Fairfield Road/Blenhiem Gardens and both pelican crossings between New Park Road and Streatham Hill would improve the flow of traffic along Brixton Hill. You only need one zebra crossing outside Sainsburys and one down at Hayter Road for Sudbourne Primary School. Just thoughts and ideas  . |
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Post by Madstuntman on Mar 19, 2010 9:18:03 GMT
They took 2 sets of traffic lights away in Sidcup between Queen Mary's Hospital and Sidcup Police Station about a year ago and traffic flows much better on this section of road now.
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Post by lonmark on Mar 19, 2010 23:19:14 GMT
why don't they take traffic lights away and put JUST Zerba cross where busy town are? I f**k hate Mason Hill Top Where junction really badly in the peaks time. Take too long!!
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Post by vjaska on Mar 20, 2010 0:51:54 GMT
why don't they take traffic lights away and put JUST Zerba cross where busy town are? I f**k hate Mason Hill Top Where junction really badly in the peaks time. Take too long!! I know I don't live in Bromley but that section is awful for traffic jams. |
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Post by londonbusboy on Mar 20, 2010 16:54:21 GMT
Bromley Common/Masons Hill is terrible with traffic especially towards Bromley South.
If buses are bound towards Westmoreland Road and they have to turn right at the lights outside the police station ive noticed them lights dont stay green for very long. Then once all lights are red and the green man comes on for people to cross once that goes red you have a huge stage of everyone on red lights before something goes green.
I know the 208 route between The Crown and Orpington Station has no traffic lights. Bet its heaven for drivers.
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Post by vjaska on Mar 20, 2010 21:53:13 GMT
Bromley Common/Masons Hill is terrible with traffic especially towards Bromley South. If buses are bound towards Westmoreland Road and they have to turn right at the lights outside the police station ive noticed them lights dont stay green for very long. Then once all lights are red and the green man comes on for people to cross once that goes red you have a huge stage of everyone on red lights before something goes green. I know the 208 route between The Crown and Orpington Station has no traffic lights. Bet its heaven for drivers. Not exactly, Petts Wood has at least one set of traffic lights but aside from that, the 208 drivers can move along that section . |
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Post by londonbusboy on Mar 21, 2010 0:55:43 GMT
Luke ive excluded lights that are only used by people to cross the road.
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Post by Paul on Mar 23, 2010 19:12:34 GMT
Not exactly, Petts Wood has at least one set of traffic lights but aside from that, the 208 drivers can move along that section . And we quite often have to ;D The only problem with that section is Southborough Lane coming back towards Bromley between about 8am and 9am. The traffic tails back from the roundabout at the Harvester all the way back towards Petts Wood. I had 20 minutes this morning to get from Petts Wood to the Crown and I needed every last one! And by my count between the Crown and Orpington Station there are only two sets of lights; the set you mentioned in Petts Wood and another set at the Fairway. But they are both pedestrian-operated |
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Post by londonbusboy on Mar 24, 2010 16:27:44 GMT
Yeah. Im guessing your meaning them temp traffic lights in Southborough Lane for the widening which are causing huge problems. Cant see why Bromley Council dont do the works nightly or even at weekends to get the job done quicker.
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Post by Paul on Mar 24, 2010 17:01:44 GMT
No, I've not had any problems with those. I'm talking about the daily tailbacks between Petts Wood and the junction with Blackbrook Lane. The past couple of days I've been scheduled nearly 20 minutes to get from Petts Wood to the Crown because of the amount of slow-moving traffic
Those temporary traffic lights have to be there because nightly works wouldn't be possible due to the proximity of the houses. The residents there wouldn't be too impressed! That part of the road is due to be closed entirely over this weekend I believe with buses diverted to use Turpington Lane and Bromley Common. Should be fun
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Post by londonbusboy on Mar 24, 2010 19:02:20 GMT
No, I've not had any problems with those. I'm talking about the daily tailbacks between Petts Wood and the junction with Blackbrook Lane. The past couple of days I've been scheduled nearly 20 minutes to get from Petts Wood to the Crown because of the amount of slow-moving traffic Those temporary traffic lights have to be there because nightly works wouldn't be possible due to the proximity of the houses. The residents there wouldn't be too impressed! That part of the road is due to be closed entirely over this weekend I believe with buses diverted to use Turpington Lane and Bromley Common. Should be fun oh right i get you now Paul. Yes i forgot about the houses nearby lol. Also thanks for letting me know about that road being shut this weekend i can let a few people know who often use it.  |
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Post by beaver14uk on Mar 25, 2010 16:03:31 GMT
Paul The diversion is now off and will be worked under temporary lights I believe. No, I've not had any problems with those. I'm talking about the daily tailbacks between Petts Wood and the junction with Blackbrook Lane. The past couple of days I've been scheduled nearly 20 minutes to get from Petts Wood to the Crown because of the amount of slow-moving traffic Those temporary traffic lights have to be there because nightly works wouldn't be possible due to the proximity of the houses. The residents there wouldn't be too impressed! That part of the road is due to be closed entirely over this weekend I believe with buses diverted to use Turpington Lane and Bromley Common. Should be fun |
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