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Post by vjaska on Nov 18, 2022 15:05:34 GMT
Not only that but the ADH’s are expected to have their issues sorted out in any event unless plans have changed I’m hoping that the ADEs will find a new home. Perhaps some could go to AV for the 203 now rather than wait for the hybrids on new contract. That would be good - I do think they'll likely end up on the H98 shifting out the remainder of the SP's which would then remove what is now a non standard type at RATP (as well as when H32 moves to Abellio) |
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 19, 2022 5:05:26 GMT
Will all the VMHs have to be refurbished before they move to BT in January? They've already been refurbished from its recent contract renewal. Most of the fleet was done by Tower Transit as it was who won the 13 tender and the rest by RATP once X came under their division. Hence why some of the VMHs have the RATP seat moquette. Do you know approximately how many of the VMHs have RATP moquette? And are they all now refurbished? |
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Post by VMH2537 on Nov 19, 2022 6:25:16 GMT
They've already been refurbished from its recent contract renewal. Most of the fleet was done by Tower Transit as it was who won the 13 tender and the rest by RATP once X came under their division. Hence why some of the VMHs have the RATP seat moquette. Do you know approximately how many of the VMHs have RATP moquette? And are they all now refurbished? Only some as the remaining fleet weren't refurbished when X transferred over |
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Post by snowman on Nov 19, 2022 8:58:41 GMT
I am hearing rumours that the WLS streetlites are going off lease, does anyone know if this is true.
Was told they may be back temporarily from January until BE37085-37101 (the batch for 226) are in service. However thinking about it the DDEs will also be coming spare (when 470 is lost)
Only 14 WLS (currently stored), 17 new BEs (don’t know when they will arrive), 7 DDEs (excluding the burnt out one), rather suggests some of the older DEs are vulnerable too.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2022 11:51:01 GMT
I believe this isn't the first time a driver has been sacked for union related stuff, I believe TF fired someone as a result of union related activities a little while ago. The union are on thin ice I’d say. The employer has a duty of care to employees. Should employees who choose not to strike, as is perfectly reasonable and allowed, be intimidated , named , bullied, then that’s clearly wrong. By trying to find out names who didn’t strike, the union have gone too far. FW had quite a few services running during the last strike, so perhaps a hint of intimidation here. |
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Post by southlondon413 on Nov 19, 2022 12:23:36 GMT
I believe this isn't the first time a driver has been sacked for union related stuff, I believe TF fired someone as a result of union related activities a little while ago. The union are on thin ice I’d say. The employer has a duty of care to employees. Should employees who choose not to strike, as is perfectly reasonable and allowed, be intimidated , named , bullied, then that’s clearly wrong. By trying not find out names who didn’t strike, the union have gone too far. FW had quite a few services running during the last strike, so perhaps a hint of intimidation here. I get that sense as well, I mean we all remember those videos a couple of years ago outside RP where strikers were trying to prevent vehicles leaving for service. There should be better protection by law for non-striking employees, the government ran a consultation on it a few years ago but nothing really came of it in subsequent revisions to the Trade Union Act. |
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Post by vjaska on Nov 19, 2022 12:49:35 GMT
I am hearing rumours that the WLS streetlites are going off lease, does anyone know if this is true. Was told they may be back temporarily from January until BE37085-37101 (the batch for 226) are in service. However thinking about it the DDEs will also be coming spare (when 470 is lost) Only 14 WLS (currently stored), 17 new BEs (don’t know when they will arrive), 7 DDEs (excluding the burnt out one), rather suggests some of the older DEs are vulnerable too. I doubt the DDE’s will replace any DE’s given they are a shorter length. The 226 will need something to start it off so if the WLS do go off lease, then I guess they’ll be borrowing DE’s from Metroline or double decking something else to release single deckers |
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Post by snowman on Nov 19, 2022 15:27:35 GMT
I believe this isn't the first time a driver has been sacked for union related stuff, I believe TF fired someone as a result of union related activities a little while ago. The union are on thin ice I’d say. The employer has a duty of care to employees. Should employees who choose not to strike, as is perfectly reasonable and allowed, be intimidated , named , bullied, then that’s clearly wrong. By trying to find out names who didn’t strike, the union have gone too far. FW had quite a few services running during the last strike, so perhaps a hint of intimidation here. Reading it, sounds like the Rep started giving out info about employees to other employees that even HR staff would never do. Usually those sort of things are explained as should stay confidential at basic induction when first join. If the individual broke those rules, should have known better (especially as Union reps do get some basic HR training), then deserves to be sacked, as would any other employee doing same. There are some exceptions to protect whistleblowers, but can’t see that as relevant here. |
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Post by Volvo on Nov 19, 2022 15:33:28 GMT
I may have missed this as I haven't been that active on this thread lately and I have been away from work for a while but I have returned today to rumours that the 13 is no longer coming to BT but instead we are going to gain the 226!!
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Post by kmkcheng on Nov 19, 2022 16:07:42 GMT
I may have missed this as I haven't been that active on this thread lately and I have been away from work for a while but I have returned today to rumours that the 13 is no longer coming to BT but instead we are going to gain the 226!! The 13 move did turn out to be not true but the news of 226 working out of BT is a new one. I guess it makes a bit more sense now why the take up of the 226 was delayed to coincide with the 142 moving over to EW |
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Post by ADH45258 on Nov 19, 2022 16:12:36 GMT
I may have missed this as I haven't been that active on this thread lately and I have been away from work for a while but I have returned today to rumours that the 13 is no longer coming to BT but instead we are going to gain the 226!! If this true, I assume it would be more for staffing issues, if 142/642 drivers don't move with the route to EW? As it seems RP can't be electrified*, X would seem the next best option, or possibly V (which isn't far from Ealing) - however I suppose BT will have the advantage of being wired up for the 125, and the Northern line to/from Golders Green. *Has it been clarified what the situation is with RP? We know there were issues at S in accommodating the 295, but was never confirmed with the 226. The shorter term lease of RP and planned redevelopment would seem a likely reason, however the 226 was originally planned to be run from RP after the tender result. |
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Post by Volvo on Nov 19, 2022 18:30:14 GMT
I may have missed this as I haven't been that active on this thread lately and I have been away from work for a while but I have returned today to rumours that the 13 is no longer coming to BT but instead we are going to gain the 226!! The 13 move did turn out to be not true but the news of 226 working out of BT is a new one. I guess it makes a bit more sense now why the take up of the 226 was delayed to coincide with the 142 moving over to EW The one about the 13 surprised me as there were actual posters up in the garage about it from the general manager. This one today was someone telling me, so yea. |
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Post by pilk on Nov 19, 2022 18:36:05 GMT
The 13 move did turn out to be not true but the news of 226 working out of BT is a new one. I guess it makes a bit more sense now why the take up of the 226 was delayed to coincide with the 142 moving over to EW The one about the 13 surprised me as there were actual posters up in the garage about it from the general manager. This one today was someone telling me, so yea. I was told sometime ago by someone at BT that they were getting the 13. I guess since gaining the 226 they've had a rethink and decided to put that in there instead? |
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Post by COBO on Nov 19, 2022 18:50:28 GMT
BT for the 226 isn’t a bad idea as it’s just down the Northern Line and it’s already electrified for the 125.
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Post by MetrolineGA1511 on Nov 19, 2022 21:50:36 GMT
While I am disappointed about route 13 not returning to BT, I do feel that route 13 at X and 226 at BT is better than vice versa.
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