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Post by wirewiper on Nov 10, 2024 8:23:31 GMT
The 183 in theory could be cut to Harrow Bus Station and replaced by extending the 340 That would directly link Pinner to Edgware, Harrow and Wealdstone, Stanmore Stations. It could create potential issues with stands at Harrow and with the 340 potentially being extended to Colindale, who knows how long it would be e2e. Pinner isn't too badly connected to the areas you said with the H12 going from Pinner to Harrow Weald and further to Stanmore Station. Not to mention, if the 183 is curtailed to Harrow in favour of extending the 340, that breaks as many established links as it creates new ones. Anyone travelling Pinner to Edgware would surely catch the H12 across to Stanmore Broadway and and transfer to the 142 or 340. |
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Post by jake on Nov 10, 2024 15:00:27 GMT
sloane square bus stop C has a summer route 850 labelled on it? does anyone have any information on this
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Post by abellion on Nov 10, 2024 15:04:12 GMT
sloane square bus stop C has a summer route 850 labelled on it? does anyone have any information on this I remember asking this question 2 or 3 years ago on here and I got no answer, perhaps someone will know now??  |
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Post by thewhetstonebusguy on Nov 11, 2024 0:39:29 GMT
I think RP might be closing, here’s why:
We will see many routes like the 256 and 266 leaving for Metroline in the next 3 months and other routes have left RP like the 223, 228, 258, 266/N266 and H17 leaving for ML in the last 18 months and next 6 months. The last routes that will stay at RP are the 18/N18, 220 and 224. Routes 18/N18 and 220 are subject to retendering despite being retained in November 2024 and October 2022 respectively. The 224 is up for tender as its time with RATP will be up on 10 October 2025
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Post by sam97 on Nov 11, 2024 3:09:39 GMT
I think RP might be closing, here’s why: We will see many routes like the 256 and 266 leaving for Metroline in the next 3 months and other routes have left RP like the 223, 228, 258, 266/N266 and H17 leaving for ML in the last 18 months and next 6 months. The last routes that will stay at RP are the 18/N18, 220 and 224. Routes 18/N18 and 220 are subject to retendering despite being retained in November 2024 and October 2022 respectively. The 224 is up for tender as its time with RATP will be up on 10 October 2025 I don’t remember the 256 operated by RATP. Probably meant 258. |
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Post by SK02XHP (DPS30639) on Nov 11, 2024 3:14:56 GMT
I think RP might be closing, here’s why: We will see many routes like the 256 and 266 leaving for Metroline in the next 3 months and other routes have left RP like the 223, 228, 258, 266/N266 and H17 leaving for ML in the last 18 months and next 6 months. The last routes that will stay at RP are the 18/N18, 220 and 224. Routes 18/N18 and 220 are subject to retendering despite being retained in November 2024 and October 2022 respectively. The 224 is up for tender as its time with RATP will be up on 10 October 2025 With a bit of shuffling the 220 could possibly move into S, if another route was to move to V as the 218 leaving in a few weeks will mean there is space for the 72 as it’s only got a pvr of 10. Although Metroline could also snap up the 220 as the Willesden end is close proximity to WJ. As with the 18, it could possibly go to X however with the PVR being so big I doubt that would work. Maybe the 18 will end up back at WJ too but only time will tell. I reckon the 224 might be lost as there isn’t really a suitable garage for it without RP. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 11, 2024 8:29:24 GMT
I think RP might be closing, here’s why: We will see many routes like the 256 and 266 leaving for Metroline in the next 3 months and other routes have left RP like the 223, 228, 258, 266/N266 and H17 leaving for ML in the last 18 months and next 6 months. The last routes that will stay at RP are the 18/N18, 220 and 224. Routes 18/N18 and 220 are subject to retendering despite being retained in November 2024 and October 2022 respectively. The 224 is up for tender as its time with RATP will be up on 10 October 2025 With a bit of shuffling the 220 could possibly move into S, if another route was to move to V as the 218 leaving in a few weeks will mean there is space for the 72 as it’s only got a pvr of 10. Although Metroline could also snap up the 220 as the Willesden end is close proximity to WJ. As with the 18, it could possibly go to X however with the PVR being so big I doubt that would work. Maybe the 18 will end up back at WJ too but only time will tell. I reckon the 224 might be lost as there isn’t really a suitable garage for it without RP. X will likely have space of the 414 goes and if they retain the 452 next year the PVR of that could be 4 less then now so I think space will eventually became available for the 18/N18. |
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Post by Dad91 on Nov 11, 2024 8:44:55 GMT
With a bit of shuffling the 220 could possibly move into S, if another route was to move to V as the 218 leaving in a few weeks will mean there is space for the 72 as it’s only got a pvr of 10. Although Metroline could also snap up the 220 as the Willesden end is close proximity to WJ. As with the 18, it could possibly go to X however with the PVR being so big I doubt that would work. Maybe the 18 will end up back at WJ too but only time will tell. I reckon the 224 might be lost as there isn’t really a suitable garage for it without RP. X will likely have space of the 414 goes and if they retain the 452 next year the PVR of that could be 4 less then now so I think space will eventually became available for the 18/N18. 18 new PVR 39 buses. Was wondering how long the contract for 18 saying. Not confirmed hybrids |
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Post by SK02XHP (DPS30639) on Nov 11, 2024 10:16:41 GMT
With a bit of shuffling the 220 could possibly move into S, if another route was to move to V as the 218 leaving in a few weeks will mean there is space for the 72 as it’s only got a pvr of 10. Although Metroline could also snap up the 220 as the Willesden end is close proximity to WJ. As with the 18, it could possibly go to X however with the PVR being so big I doubt that would work. Maybe the 18 will end up back at WJ too but only time will tell. I reckon the 224 might be lost as there isn’t really a suitable garage for it without RP. X will likely have space of the 414 goes and if they retain the 452 next year the PVR of that could be 4 less then now so I think space will eventually became available for the 18/N18. Oh yeah I was forgetting about the 414, that’s a good point, it would definitely be the best case for RATP if that was able to happen. |
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Post by southlondonbus on Nov 11, 2024 10:31:45 GMT
Although it was awarded as a London Transit route, the fact the 31 does reach Shepherds Bush means could it be operated from there if something was to shift to V?
That I think along with proposed reductions to the 414/452 aswell as the N18 using buses at night could definetly fit into X with changeovers at the Chippenham.
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Post by LD71YLO (BE37054) on Nov 11, 2024 11:17:16 GMT
Although it was awarded as a London Transit route, the fact the 31 does reach Shepherds Bush means could it be operated from there if something was to shift to V? That I think along with proposed reductions to the 414/452 aswell as the N18 using buses at night could definetly fit into X with changeovers at the Chippenham. I really don't think it will end up at S or any other garage for that matter, it only takes up the space previously occupied by the 28. There's still the space from the 414 to use up, plus any from the 452. And of course X hasn't been at capacity for donkey's years, probably was last at capacity when AS opened. |
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Post by enviroPB on Nov 11, 2024 11:18:23 GMT
With a bit of shuffling the 220 could possibly move into S, if another route was to move to V as the 218 leaving in a few weeks will mean there is space for the 72 as it’s only got a pvr of 10. Although Metroline could also snap up the 220 as the Willesden end is close proximity to WJ. As with the 18, it could possibly go to X however with the PVR being so big I doubt that would work. Maybe the 18 will end up back at WJ too but only time will tell. I reckon the 224 might be lost as there isn’t really a suitable garage for it without RP. X will likely have space of the 414 goes and if they retain the 452 next year the PVR of that could be 4 less then now so I think space will eventually became available for the 18/N18. Doesn't X have space for almost 200 buses? The current garage PVR is 86 and TVR should be closer to 100, so it's at 50% capacity right now. |
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Post by greenboy on Nov 11, 2024 11:41:51 GMT
X will likely have space of the 414 goes and if they retain the 452 next year the PVR of that could be 4 less then now so I think space will eventually became available for the 18/N18. Doesn't X have space for almost 200 buses? The current garage PVR is 86 and TVR should be closer to 100, so it's at 50% capacity right now. I think you're right, there's certainly plenty of spare capacity at X. |
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Post by thewhetstonebusguy on Nov 11, 2024 12:00:17 GMT
I think RP might be closing, here’s why: We will see many routes like the 256 and 266 leaving for Metroline in the next 3 months and other routes have left RP like the 223, 228, 258, 266/N266 and H17 leaving for ML in the last 18 months and next 6 months. The last routes that will stay at RP are the 18/N18, 220 and 224. Routes 18/N18 and 220 are subject to retendering despite being retained in November 2024 and October 2022 respectively. The 224 is up for tender as its time with RATP will be up on 10 October 2025 I don’t remember the 256 operated by RATP. Probably meant 258. I did mean the 258 |
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Post by SK02XHP (DPS30639) on Nov 11, 2024 14:08:22 GMT
Although it was awarded as a London Transit route, the fact the 31 does reach Shepherds Bush means could it be operated from there if something was to shift to V? That I think along with proposed reductions to the 414/452 aswell as the N18 using buses at night could definetly fit into X with changeovers at the Chippenham. I really don't think it will end up at S or any other garage for that matter, it only takes up the space previously occupied by the 28. There's still the space from the 414 to use up, plus any from the 452. And of course X hasn't been at capacity for donkey's years, probably was last at capacity when AS opened. I do wonder if the 218 will stay at X when it moves over as it does seem to have been bouncing back and forth from X to V over the past 2 ish years. The 224 could theoretically move into V as it and the 218 have a similar PVR, it would just be quite a deadrun to Alperton / St Raphael’s but V isn’t far from the A406 so maybe that could be a possibility seeing as I imagine V will be fairly empty only having the 272, 283, 440 and E3 by the new year. |
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