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Post by vjaska on Apr 8, 2011 0:55:09 GMT
First are now looking at expansion and new vehicle orders, again from the horses mouth, but cannot go into too much detail as to anything else. Snowman's post just above Bob's post has details of what vehicles have been ordered
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Post by john on Apr 8, 2011 1:25:27 GMT
First are now looking at expansion and new vehicle orders, again from the horses mouth, but cannot go into too much detail as to anything else. Snowman's post just above Bob's post has details of what vehicles have been ordered Oh I saw that lol, just meaning that they did cut back over recent years but now are looking at going further forward. Apparently they cut back far too much during the downturn. In fact, so much so that they sold GBRf and are really struggling with their US operations, mainly the Yellow Bus sector.
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Post by smiler52 on Apr 8, 2011 23:33:54 GMT
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Post by snowman on Apr 10, 2011 6:40:58 GMT
Smiler, of the first years order 14 buses are rumoured for First Hampshire (don't know the type) John/Bob. I understand the second year of the order is not determined, and there are options with the manufacturers. Exact specs can be decided later depending on final choice of where they will operate. As for the 200 buses for the Olympics (within the second year order), my personal guess is majority will be Deckers. The stories doing the rounds are that they are mainly for Glasgow, Manchester and Yorkshire, London may get some but only if their are suitable tender wins, looking at this (scroll down to Autumn 2012 starts in list page1) there is only tranche 392, (which might not require many buses) or a win from someone else (and realistically only need to look at contracts starting mid Sept to Oct otherwise there is wasteful storage of virtually new buses tangytango.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tender&action=display&thread=2931&page=1As I originally said, don't be shocked if Londons bus fleet doesn't benefit from the Olympics.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2011 9:18:56 GMT
You also have to remember the contract also covers the transportation of athletes for the para Olympics ... some specialist vehicles maybe required for this
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Post by Deleted on Apr 10, 2011 9:50:30 GMT
Smiler, of the first years order 14 buses are rumoured for First Hampshire (don't know the type) John/Bob. I understand the second year of the order is not determined, and there are options with the manufacturers. Exact specs can be decided later depending on final choice of where they will operate. As for the 200 buses for the Olympics (within the second year order), my personal guess is majority will be Deckers. The stories doing the rounds are that they are mainly for Glasgow, Manchester and Yorkshire, London may get some but only if their are suitable tender wins, looking at this (scroll down to Autumn 2012 starts in list page1) there is only tranche 392, (which might not require many buses) or a win from someone else (and realistically only need to look at contracts starting mid Sept to Oct otherwise there is wasteful storage of virtually new buses tangytango.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=tender&action=display&thread=2931&page=1As I originally said, don't be shocked if Londons bus fleet doesn't benefit from the Olympics. This is how the order is reportedly split - London seems higher number than expected (sorry do not know type - maybe with the recent (unexpected?) losses some of the London buses will get re-allocated?) London (293) East England (24) Manchester (25) Berkshire (5) Leeds (16) Glasgow (33) Scotland East (29) Bristol (14) Devon & Cornwall (7) Hampshire (14)
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Post by M1104 on Apr 10, 2011 20:58:42 GMT
With the current situation the country is in would it be more value for money for TfL to ditch some of their specs? Single doored buses would benefit london more in my opinion as you get more seats but then you have the problem of loading times but 8.8m buses dont really suffer, most passengers will get up before their stop to get off which i think saves time anyway. Fare dodging could be avoided making TfL more money and buggy mums wont be able to use rear doors like they currently do. If the buggy is too wide then they'll have to fold it bringing joy to everyone Plus London operators could sell or even transfer them easier without conversions etc. Anyone else agree or disagree? During the 90s single doored double deckers (Optare Spectras) were used at Q officially for the 3 with regular odd workings on the 35, 40, 45 and 345. The twenty-five SP class buses proved very unpopular with the exception of SP2 which was the dual doored variant based mainly at AL for the 280. Single doored R reg. LDPs were just as unpopular when ordered for the 345 and were replaced by Y reg. dual doored LDPs. Additionally these LDPs were long wheel base.
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Post by vjaska on Apr 11, 2011 10:43:42 GMT
With the current situation the country is in would it be more value for money for TfL to ditch some of their specs? Single doored buses would benefit london more in my opinion as you get more seats but then you have the problem of loading times but 8.8m buses dont really suffer, most passengers will get up before their stop to get off which i think saves time anyway. Fare dodging could be avoided making TfL more money and buggy mums wont be able to use rear doors like they currently do. If the buggy is too wide then they'll have to fold it bringing joy to everyone Plus London operators could sell or even transfer them easier without conversions etc. Anyone else agree or disagree? During the 90s single doored double deckers (Optare Spectras) were used at Q officially for the 3 with regular odd workings on the 35, 40, 45 and 345. The twenty-five SP class buses proved very unpopular with the exception of SP2 which was the dual doored variant based mainly at AL for the 280. Single doored R reg. LDPs were just as unpopular when ordered for the 345 and were replaced by Y reg. dual doored LDPs. Additionally these LDPs were long wheel base. In fact, all the Spectras including SP2 were unpopular as they were very unreliable and were regularly subbed for older T's. Bet the drivers on the 3 were happy when the roadworks along the route forced the SP's onto the 40 with T's coming onto the 3.
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Post by M1104 on Apr 11, 2011 11:33:15 GMT
During the 90s single doored double deckers (Optare Spectras) were used at Q officially for the 3 with regular odd workings on the 35, 40, 45 and 345. The twenty-five SP class buses proved very unpopular with the exception of SP2 which was the dual doored variant based mainly at AL for the 280. Single doored R reg. LDPs were just as unpopular when ordered for the 345 and were replaced by Y reg. dual doored LDPs. Additionally these LDPs were long wheel base. In fact, all the Spectras including SP2 were unpopular as they were very unreliable and were regularly subbed for older T's. Bet the drivers on the 3 were happy when the roadworks along the route forced the SP's onto the 40 with T's coming onto the 3. Their brakes weren't too powerful either.
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