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Post by LondonExplorer316 on Jul 19, 2024 11:11:30 GMT
298 will transfer to Unobus next year I have heard the W9 will be retendered too due to a lack of bids. Wonder if Uno will go for that route as well.
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Post by SILENCED on Jul 19, 2024 11:26:48 GMT
298 will transfer to Unobus next year And going double deck it seems!
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Post by COBO on Jul 19, 2024 11:28:17 GMT
It seems as though TfL are trying to push out Sullivans buses because according to screenshot of what Dean Sullivan has wrote on social media they tried to bid for the 298 but TfL sugguest them not to.
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Post by T.R. on Jul 19, 2024 13:35:35 GMT
I do wonder at what point TfL say "no sorry, that's enough- we're terminating your contracts for failure to deliver" Has that ever happened before?
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Post by greg on Jul 19, 2024 14:10:38 GMT
I do wonder at what point TfL say "no sorry, that's enough- we're terminating your contracts for failure to deliver" Has that ever happened before? E10 under Arriva? Or was that because they had closed their Heathrow base and had no other suitable garages anywhere near the route?
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 19, 2024 14:16:03 GMT
I do wonder at what point TfL say "no sorry, that's enough- we're terminating your contracts for failure to deliver" Has that ever happened before? I think this happened to the 185 before didn’t it? Someone with better historical knowledge than me would be able to corroborate or explain further
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 19, 2024 14:21:44 GMT
It seems as though TfL are trying to push out Sullivans buses because according to screenshot of what Dean Sullivan has wrote on social media they tried to bid for the 298 but TfL sugguest them not to. Interesting, seems at odds with their previous statements of them saying they’re voluntarily pulling out of TfL work
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jul 19, 2024 14:59:42 GMT
Has that ever happened before? I think this happened to the 185 before didn’t it? Someone with better historical knowledge than me would be able to corroborate or explain further Easylink went into liquidation. I can't think of any recent examples, back in the 80s London Country North West had some tenders reassigned, the 298 being one of them
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Post by ThinLizzy on Jul 19, 2024 15:03:17 GMT
It seems as though TfL are trying to push out Sullivans buses because according to screenshot of what Dean Sullivan has wrote on social media they tried to bid for the 298 but TfL sugguest them not to. Interesting, seems at odds with their previous statements of them saying they’re voluntarily pulling out of TfL work to be fair to TfL, nothing has been done by the company to sort out the issues of vehicle presentation or service provision.
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Post by sp17 on Jul 19, 2024 17:17:55 GMT
The man in charge of Uno ran a very successful Thorpes company in North West London and really clipped at Metroline’s heels. He know what he’s doing and I’m sure he’s been taking note of Sullivan’s shortcomings as not to repeat them. Sullivans aren’t going to cease from existing or anything detrimental, their rail replacement work pays more than the London work.
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Post by redexpress on Jul 19, 2024 21:38:45 GMT
I think this happened to the 185 before didn’t it? Someone with better historical knowledge than me would be able to corroborate or explain further Easylink went into liquidation. I can't think of any recent examples, back in the 80s London Country North West had some tenders reassigned, the 298 being one of them It was LCNE, not LCNW, that had their contracts (292/298/313) reassigned, following a prolonged strike. There were other struggling operators that had their contracts terminated early in those days, e.g. Sampsons on the 317, or Cityrama on the 196/200.
When Limebourne sold out to Connex in 2001 there were comments suggesting they had been "encouraged" to sell up by TfL. At the time they were at the bottom of the league table for performance and had had the C10 contract terminated early due to poor performance. That said they did manage to retain the C3 at the time, so clearly the door wasn't completely shut for them.
I reckon Centra jumped before they were pushed when they surrendered their remaining contracts in 2006. They certainly weren't going to be given any more work at that point.
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Post by DE20106 on Jul 19, 2024 21:58:58 GMT
Easylink went into liquidation. I can't think of any recent examples, back in the 80s London Country North West had some tenders reassigned, the 298 being one of them It was LCNE, not LCNW, that had their contracts (292/298/313) reassigned, following a prolonged strike. There were other struggling operators that had their contracts terminated early in those days, e.g. Sampsons on the 317, or Cityrama on the 196/200.
When Limebourne sold out to Connex in 2001 there were comments suggesting they had been "encouraged" to sell up by TfL. At the time they were at the bottom of the league table for performance and had had the C10 contract terminated early due to poor performance. That said they did manage to retain the C3 at the time, so clearly the door wasn't completely shut for them.
I reckon Centra jumped before they were pushed when they surrendered their remaining contracts in 2006. They certainly weren't going to be given any more work at that point.
Absolutely crazy to think we had such huge quantities of different names of bus operators back in those days, I’ve never even heard of most of these names you’re rattling off ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Now we’re down to just 6 major operators
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Post by vjaska on Jul 19, 2024 22:42:19 GMT
It was LCNE, not LCNW, that had their contracts (292/298/313) reassigned, following a prolonged strike. There were other struggling operators that had their contracts terminated early in those days, e.g. Sampsons on the 317, or Cityrama on the 196/200.
When Limebourne sold out to Connex in 2001 there were comments suggesting they had been "encouraged" to sell up by TfL. At the time they were at the bottom of the league table for performance and had had the C10 contract terminated early due to poor performance. That said they did manage to retain the C3 at the time, so clearly the door wasn't completely shut for them.
I reckon Centra jumped before they were pushed when they surrendered their remaining contracts in 2006. They certainly weren't going to be given any more work at that point.
Absolutely crazy to think we had such huge quantities of different names of bus operators back in those days, I’ve never even heard of most of these names you’re rattling off ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) Now we’re down to just 6 major operators Looking back in 2000, within SW2 & off the top of my head, I had Connex (3, 196, 322, N3), Arriva (2, 59, 109, 118 partly, 137, 137A, 159, 250, 255, 319, 689, 690, N2), London Central (35, 45, 345, P5, P13, N35, N137, N159), London General (37, 118, 133, N37), London United (57), Stagecoach Selkent (P4) & Mitcham Belle (201)
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Post by Towielad on Jul 30, 2024 9:35:39 GMT
The Centra debacle was more down to the crooks running it bleeding it dry of money forcing parent company Central Parking System to eventually sell off their UK operations due to the fraud committed by well known industry protagonists!
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Post by VMH2537 on Jul 30, 2024 17:55:27 GMT
WLV1 was seen today tearing down the safety barriers at Borhamwood Tesco. Really tells the type of quality the drivers are within Sullivan.
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