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Post by Swadbus on Dec 18, 2012 17:16:37 GMT
Folks,
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Just recently their seems to have been a plethora of new posts and threads that seem to have been created with what seem to me to be drivel poorly thought out posts, suggesting blatantly stupid ill thought out ideas.
Whilst I'm all for invoking debate and conversation, it just seems that some of the posts (moreso by one individual - not the community on here as a whole) seem to be created for creation sake and serve no purpose other than to fill what I see to be a well informed forum with twaddle irrelevant information.
I like this forum because it has members from different walks of life and different jobs cross the bus industry, and also has some pretty well clued up and informed enthusiasts, with some valued opinions that invoke sensible debate and discussion.
I just feel recently that quality of posts and discussion by a very small minority of members on some recent threads (and newly created threads) is detracting from what is usually a good forum.
I don't believe I'm alone in my thoughts, what do others think? (Keep it civil please!)
/rant end
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Post by daveb0789 on Dec 18, 2012 17:24:36 GMT
Are you talking about me?
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Post by TA1 on Dec 18, 2012 17:30:51 GMT
Folks, /rant mode Just recently their seems to have been a plethora of new posts and threads that seem to have been created with what seem to me to be drivel poorly thought out posts, suggesting blatantly stupid ill thought out ideas. Whilst I'm all for invoking debate and conversation, it just seems that some of the posts (moreso by one individual - not the community on here as a whole) seem to be created for creation sake and serve no purpose other than to fill what I see to be a well informed forum with twaddle irrelevant information. I like this forum because it has members from different walks of life and different jobs cross the bus industry, and also has some pretty well clued up and informed enthusiasts, with some valued opinions that invoke sensible debate and discussion. I just feel recently that quality of posts and discussion by a very small minority of members on some recent threads (and newly created threads) is detracting from what is usually a good forum. I don't believe I'm alone in my thoughts, what do others think? (Keep it civil please!) /rant end I've been waiting for somebody to speak up, and I wholeheartedly agree with you. In the past nine to twelve months, I've noted the quality of posts decrease immensely In fact members have become egocentric and compete with one another to beat one another in who knows it all. A comment I've seen frequently over the past months, it's fully childish and should be kept on social networking sites or whatever When I signed up to this forum, I was 14 and lacked the knowledge I may hold now, over the past five years my knowledge has expanded vastly. And I'm grateful I keep myself to myself on this forum but from perceptions you all seem like a great bunch of people who all specialise in their own way. I admit some of the posts an quality of posts recently have nearly driven me to leaving the forum altogether, although I must admit those thoughts have not left and I'm still contemplating leaving altogether. I've had enough of writing a post, composed with thought not just a post to increase my post count which has become a trait over the years; Furthermore looking at my amount of post multiplied with the amount of time I've been a member on this forum isn't huge but I've increased posting in threads I wouldn't of considered posting in before. Sorry for the rant. I hope things improve soon
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 17:50:18 GMT
I agree generally with your point Swad - however if you feel that strongly about a member then it's probably best to PM them also. It's all well and good posting a topic about it and people simply agreeing, however the person(s) in question may not have quite caught into what you're saying, and then the topic could lean towards looking like victimising someone; and ironically not tackling the issue in hand.
Good shout though.
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Post by Swadbus on Dec 18, 2012 17:53:35 GMT
Are you talking about me? No not you.
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Post by greeny253 on Dec 18, 2012 18:08:48 GMT
I'm agreeing here as well. From a moderators point of view, I'm coming on here, moderating and then going away again - I'm only really posting if its something I feel I can offer opinion on. I'm actually looking at another forum to do with another aspect of London transport which, in terms of posts, is a world away from here. All the same I still like the forum but the whole idea of having a whole new thread to bump the post count or putting things in posts that make no sensible contribution to the discussion are just lowering the standard around here. That and the fact that no matter how many times I remind certain members of things it just falls on deaf ears
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 19:32:29 GMT
Folks, /rant mode Just recently their seems to have been a plethora of new posts and threads that seem to have been created with what seem to me to be drivel poorly thought out posts, suggesting blatantly stupid ill thought out ideas. Whilst I'm all for invoking debate and conversation, it just seems that some of the posts (moreso by one individual - not the community on here as a whole) seem to be created for creation sake and serve no purpose other than to fill what I see to be a well informed forum with twaddle irrelevant information. I like this forum because it has members from different walks of life and different jobs cross the bus industry, and also has some pretty well clued up and informed enthusiasts, with some valued opinions that invoke sensible debate and discussion. I just feel recently that quality of posts and discussion by a very small minority of members on some recent threads (and newly created threads) is detracting from what is usually a good forum. I don't believe I'm alone in my thoughts, what do others think? (Keep it civil please!) /rant end Swad ... in total agreement ... think the rot started to set in when we acquired a host of posters from chatingo sessions. I lost the will to keep the current vehicle thread up to date ... in fact keep most of my interest to myself these days.
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Post by Jack on Dec 18, 2012 20:24:59 GMT
Folks, /rant mode Just recently their seems to have been a plethora of new posts and threads that seem to have been created with what seem to me to be drivel poorly thought out posts, suggesting blatantly stupid ill thought out ideas. Whilst I'm all for invoking debate and conversation, it just seems that some of the posts (moreso by one individual - not the community on here as a whole) seem to be created for creation sake and serve no purpose other than to fill what I see to be a well informed forum with twaddle irrelevant information. I like this forum because it has members from different walks of life and different jobs cross the bus industry, and also has some pretty well clued up and informed enthusiasts, with some valued opinions that invoke sensible debate and discussion. I just feel recently that quality of posts and discussion by a very small minority of members on some recent threads (and newly created threads) is detracting from what is usually a good forum. I don't believe I'm alone in my thoughts, what do others think? (Keep it civil please!) /rant end I think it is fair to say that you have hit the nail firmly on the head with that post. Very well said and I think we all know who the main reference in this post is...No names!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2012 20:48:18 GMT
Folks, /rant mode Just recently their seems to have been a plethora of new posts and threads that seem to have been created with what seem to me to be drivel poorly thought out posts, suggesting blatantly stupid ill thought out ideas. Whilst I'm all for invoking debate and conversation, it just seems that some of the posts (moreso by one individual - not the community on here as a whole) seem to be created for creation sake and serve no purpose other than to fill what I see to be a well informed forum with twaddle irrelevant information. I like this forum because it has members from different walks of life and different jobs cross the bus industry, and also has some pretty well clued up and informed enthusiasts, with some valued opinions that invoke sensible debate and discussion. I just feel recently that quality of posts and discussion by a very small minority of members on some recent threads (and newly created threads) is detracting from what is usually a good forum. I don't believe I'm alone in my thoughts, what do others think? (Keep it civil please!) /rant end I think it is fair to say that you have hit the nail firmly on the head with that post. Very well said and I think we all know who the main reference in this post is...No names!!! I think we all know who this would reference to.. ;D
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Post by RM5chris on Dec 18, 2012 20:58:31 GMT
Agree with Swadbus and several other posters above.
I find it sad that a Mod is saying he is only an in-and-out reader, and has tried to improve standards and is not listened to. This to me says that perhaps something needs to be done from the management of this Forum.
I dont mean the above to sound as if I'm having a go - i'm not but it seems action of some kind is needed.
Question is - where are we going to go from here. The content of Swadbuses post needed to be said (and well done him for being first for saying it)....now what?
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Post by beaver14uk on Dec 18, 2012 21:40:41 GMT
Totally agree - I tend to flick through many of the posts on gere now. We do have a very good cross section of people on this forum and it would be a shame to see it go downhill. Maybe a few warnings and then bans of posters might have to happen to save things. Agree with Swadbus and several other posters above. I find it sad that a Mod is saying he is only an in-and-out reader, and has tried to improve standards and is not listened to. This to me says that perhaps something needs to be done from the management of this Forum. I dont mean the above to sound as if I'm having a go - i'm not but it seems action of some kind is needed. Question is - where are we going to go from here. The content of Swadbuses post needed to be said (and well done him for being first for saying it)....now what?
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Post by Trident on Dec 18, 2012 22:06:27 GMT
The Bus Forum isn't about who knows the most and who has the most posts - It's about discussing the topics itself.
I'm 16 and committed to regularly learning new stuff on the forum. As much as I have my East London knowledge I'm keen to learn something new within other parts of London. However with some members regularly playing the 'ping pong' in which they want to score the point over the other it just makes me look away to be honest, and say to myself 'why do i bother'?
I just think there are too many egotistical people on here, and for the forum manager (Tangy) that would reflect pretty badly on him. Yes the Rules are fairly short but they are there for a reason - to keep the forum running. On that note, if this continues perhaps it should be considered tightening/expanding them?
I've been on the forum since 2009, and its great to know a bunch of people from either side of the industry. I just hope some people could just get their act together. As much as we have been in arguments/fights in the past it's better to treat this as a community
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Post by 6HP502C on Dec 18, 2012 23:39:09 GMT
I'm not a fan of the daft spats, point scoring or general female doginess either. Nobody cares about personal disputes between one another, so anyone attempting to get one over on another is making themselves look silly.
As for the poster I suspect is being referred to, they're harmless and posting without malevolence. I still feel this is the best forum for discussing London bus related matters, where I can share my niche interests in the sound and performance of certain types.
There may be a variance between the maturity of posters but this doesn't really detract from the forum overall - at present, it's easy enough to ignore the drivel. So long as personal scraps and sardonic barbs remain the neglible minority of posts, I wouldn't worry too much about the overall usability of the forum.
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Post by vjaska on Dec 19, 2012 0:23:31 GMT
Agree with Swadbus and several other posters above. I find it sad that a Mod is saying he is only an in-and-out reader, and has tried to improve standards and is not listened to. This to me says that perhaps something needs to be done from the management of this Forum. I dont mean the above to sound as if I'm having a go - i'm not but it seems action of some kind is needed. Question is - where are we going to go from here. The content of Swadbuses post needed to be said (and well done him for being first for saying it)....now what? Maybe it's time to name and shame those individuals who are letting the side down? As for myself, if anyone got any issues with any of my posts, PM me and I'll discuss it with yourself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2012 0:30:31 GMT
Agree with Swadbus and several other posters above. I find it sad that a Mod is saying he is only an in-and-out reader, and has tried to improve standards and is not listened to. This to me says that perhaps something needs to be done from the management of this Forum. I dont mean the above to sound as if I'm having a go - i'm not but it seems action of some kind is needed. Question is - where are we going to go from here. The content of Swadbuses post needed to be said (and well done him for being first for saying it)....now what? Maybe it's time to name and shame those individuals who are letting the side down? As for myself, if anyone got any issues with any of my posts, PM me and I'll discuss it with yourself. Ditto. I'm sure you nor RM5Chris aren't victims off the subject. Mind you we could be surprised on the few individuals.
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