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Post by I-Azusio-I on Aug 27, 2013 16:59:51 GMT
From my own experience, the stand at Bastable Avenue for the EL1 is not the safest place for buses to sit late at night. The extension would probably be beneficial to staff too. Why isn't it safe?
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Post by I-Azusio-I on Aug 27, 2013 17:01:20 GMT
I did the 387 to Creekmouth once and videoed the journey for posterity. Think that was the night I ended up in Romford at 05:30 off an N15. I had hoped to catch an N86 to Harold Wood, but at the time somebody had completely messed up the bus stop information in Romford - I think the bus stop posters showed incorrect letters and a diversion meant the eb N86s were departing from the opposite side of the road to the station, rather than outside it - only this was not clearly advertised at all - no clues whatsoever on the stop outside the station. So I watched the N86 come and go and decided to take the opportunity to go to Creekmouth instead. After doing the 247 to Barkingside then the 169 to Barking. The bus turned up at Barking over 20 minutes late owing traffic delays caused by an accident elsewhere on the route - I had to ask the driver of one of the normal 387s where the Creekmouth bus was. Leaving Barking Reach, there were still around half a dozen people on the bus - I don't know if there are usually more who gave up because of the delay, but most of them alighted at Atcost Road, deep into the dusty, brownfield industrial expanse that is Creekmouth. The area is desolate and lonely - in the 3 minute video below, I don't think much in the way human animation is shown, other than the cars whizzing by. After getting off the bus, the first thing I did was try and find out how to get out of the place - the timetable wasn't very promising at all and I'll wager the bird sh*t is probably still there. That said, one of the locals was quite friendly and warned there weren't any buses going for hours, so I should keep walking until I reached the part of River Road served by the normal 387. Timetable - fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc1/427121_10152023233165075_323310786_n.jpgI wonder if the tile on one of the bus stops in the area still shows 386? Diamond Geezer wrote an interesting blog entry on the area (well, Dagenham Sunday Market) which was a very entertaining read having experienced the area's public transport provisions myself - diamondgeezer.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/dagenham-sunday-market.html I think those Creekmouth journeys should be withdrawn, there's anybody there and the roads are so cramped around there.
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Post by fl70500 on Aug 29, 2013 8:20:37 GMT
He's an employee at BE which operates the EL1 so it would probably have been a notice in the garage. Correct, and also its my route so from 7th September that's where I'm taking it as for a safe stand the old one wasn't too bad
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Post by Swadbus on Aug 30, 2013 6:26:18 GMT
From my own experience, the stand at Bastable Avenue for the EL1 is not the safest place for buses to sit late at night. The extension would probably be beneficial to staff too. Why isn't it safe? It's a rough area and is a known hotspot for trouble.
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Post by fl70500 on Aug 30, 2013 9:22:35 GMT
it can be but since those blocks got closed down its quiet now
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Post by rambo on Aug 30, 2013 22:29:23 GMT
Never had any probs at bastable av stand.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2013 0:17:56 GMT
I think those Creekmouth journeys should be withdrawn, there's anybody there and the roads are so cramped around there. They are being withdrawn as of 26/10/13.
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