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Post by snoggle on Sept 5, 2013 16:56:22 GMT
London Travelwatch have undertaken research into passengers' views on value for money on London's transport system. The reports covers issues related to ticket prices, buses, tube, train and trams. Interesting views about annual tickets and how PAYG works. Report link page
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Post by londonbusboy on Sept 6, 2013 1:16:18 GMT
One thing i have found (might be me being thick) is when you login to your Oyster on the TfL site i find i cannot top up my oyster. I have followed the process and it mentions something about choosing your local station for some reason and i gave up.
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Post by snoggle on Sept 6, 2013 10:11:58 GMT
One thing i have found (might be me being thick) is when you login to your Oyster on the TfL site i find i cannot top up my oyster. I have followed the process and it mentions something about choosing your local station for some reason and i gave up. If you buy PAYG over the web you have to nominate a station where you will touch in on a journey and this will add the PAYG to your card. TfL can only send the "upload PAYG" instruction to one fixed location because to send it everywhere would cause massive amounts of data to be whizzing round the system and there is a risk that people could touch in twice and get two loads of PAYG for one payment. The network of ticketing devices is not sufficiently "on line" for the collection of PAYG at one location to be instantaneously registered elsewhere as not being required. I believe TfL have upgraded the entire comms network on LU, DLR and NR gates and validators but I think there is still some sort of timelag to / from the centre. On a related note I don't think buses are online either so clearly people can't collect PAYG on a bus. If you can afford it then the best thing to do is set up auto top up so that whenever your PAYG balance falls below £10 your card will be topped up by £20 or £40 (you set the amount). The only issue is that the first time you set up Auto Top Up you have to make a rail or tube journey and go through a nominated station so that the card collects the auto top up instruction from the gate or validator. The main moan people have is the need to make a rail journey to do the activation when some people may only travel by rail occasionally.
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Post by londonbusboy on Sept 6, 2013 10:58:08 GMT
Thanks for the reply i thought that was the case and i very rarely use the train so i will continue topping up at the shops
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Post by bigbaddom1981 on Sept 6, 2013 11:53:38 GMT
One thing i have found (might be me being thick) is when you login to your Oyster on the TfL site i find i cannot top up my oyster. I have followed the process and it mentions something about choosing your local station for some reason and i gave up. If you buy PAYG over the web you have to nominate a station where you will touch in on a journey and this will add the PAYG to your card. TfL can only send the "upload PAYG" instruction to one fixed location because to send it everywhere would cause massive amounts of data to be whizzing round the system and there is a risk that people could touch in twice and get two loads of PAYG for one payment. The network of ticketing devices is not sufficiently "on line" for the collection of PAYG at one location to be instantaneously registered elsewhere as not being required. I believe TfL have upgraded the entire comms network on LU, DLR and NR gates and validators but I think there is still some sort of timelag to / from the centre. On a related note I don't think buses are online either so clearly people can't collect PAYG on a bus. If you can afford it then the best thing to do is set up auto top up so that whenever your PAYG balance falls below £10 your card will be topped up by £20 or £40 (you set the amount). The only issue is that the first time you set up Auto Top Up you have to make a rail or tube journey and go through a nominated station so that the card collects the auto top up instruction from the gate or validator. The main moan people have is the need to make a rail journey to do the activation when some people may only travel by rail occasionally. You could go through a gate, return through immediately and get a refund on that bit to collect the too up/auto top instruction. I highly recommend the auto top up as I've not manually topped up for many years and prevents you being stuck in the middle if nowhere with no credit in your PAYG
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