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Post by snoggle on Dec 18, 2013 23:27:12 GMT
I have been taking a look at the 390's evening service headways this week on LVF. Some of this was prompted by tweets from people who'd had very long waits. Is there something peculiar about the 390 that causes it to bunch so badly and then have 20-30 minute gaps? Do NB4Ls get lonely at night and only like to go out in the dark in pairs?    Surely it can't be that hard to run a x12 headway service in the evening given the northern and western bits of the route are relatively quick and not overly congested? |
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Post by Volvo on Dec 18, 2013 23:38:28 GMT
TBH and Im not being funny but since the take over of the 390 by those things the service has seen large gaps and bunching today was another example earlier in the day there were 5 390s in a row between archway station and tufnell park station
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 0:05:57 GMT
I know the 390 is parallel to the Central line from Notting Hill to Tottenham Court Road.
Why can't passengers take the train instead of waiting for a very long while for a bus because of the incident in Oxford Street?
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Post by VPL630 on Dec 19, 2013 0:09:25 GMT
I have been taking a look at the 390's evening service headways this week on LVF. Some of this was prompted by tweets from people who'd had very long waits. Is there something peculiar about the 390 that causes it to bunch so badly and then have 20-30 minute gaps? Do NB4Ls get lonely at night and only like to go out in the dark in pairs? Surely it can't be that hard to run a x12 headway service in the evening given the northern and western bits of the route are relatively quick and not overly congested? Looks fine at the moment traintimes.org.uk/map/london-buses/#390 |
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Post by snoggle on Dec 19, 2013 0:21:29 GMT
I have been taking a look at the 390's evening service headways this week on LVF. Some of this was prompted by tweets from people who'd had very long waits. Is there something peculiar about the 390 that causes it to bunch so badly and then have 20-30 minute gaps? Do NB4Ls get lonely at night and only like to go out in the dark in pairs? Surely it can't be that hard to run a x12 headway service in the evening given the northern and western bits of the route are relatively quick and not overly congested? Looks fine at the moment traintimes.org.uk/map/london-buses/#390 Hardly - I had just looked at the TfL info before I saw your post. There is a 40 odd minute gap for a w/b bus running beyond Marble Arch. No NHG bound buses between York Way and NHG which is ludicrous at this time of night. There was also a short turning journey n/b at Brecknock Road which strikes me as a bit odd this late at night unless it's to try to fill in the 40 minute w/b gap. |
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Post by Mokujin on Dec 19, 2013 0:50:39 GMT
I don't even know why 390 got LTs in the first place, it just sounds like a really odd route to get them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2013 0:54:39 GMT
I don't even know why 390 got LTs in the first place, it just sounds like a really odd route to get them. Probably because Oxford Street is in need for open boarding/platform buses because of the amount of bus routes causing the buses pile up on the street. |
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Post by greeny253 on Dec 19, 2013 12:26:59 GMT
Hardly - I had just looked at the TfL info before I saw your post. There is a 40 odd minute gap for a w/b bus running beyond Marble Arch. No NHG bound buses between York Way and NHG which is ludicrous at this time of night. There was also a short turning journey n/b at Brecknock Road which strikes me as a bit odd this late at night unless it's to try to fill in the 40 minute w/b gap. Much of the problem could have a lot to do with the Euston/Kings Cross areas I feel. Especially that end of Tottenham Court Road. Also the evening service on Wednesday night was subject to a diversion heading into the centre of town owing to a closure of Gower Street. |
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Post by COBO on Dec 19, 2013 15:15:57 GMT
I know the 390 is parallel to the Central line from Notting Hill to Tottenham Court Road. Why can't passengers take the train instead of waiting for a very long while for a bus because of the incident in Oxford Street? Because it's cheaper. And why should passengers take the train? |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Dec 19, 2013 19:19:47 GMT
I know the 390 is parallel to the Central line from Notting Hill to Tottenham Court Road. Why can't passengers take the train instead of waiting for a very long while for a bus because of the incident in Oxford Street? Because it's cheaper. And why should passengers take the train? Also the LTs give a more comfortable ride than the Tube. |
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Post by Mokujin on Dec 19, 2013 19:52:20 GMT
Because it's cheaper. And why should passengers take the train? Also the LTs give a more comfortable ride than the Tube. But the Tube is faster than the LTs and the LTs do some weird thing as in that when they're stuck in traffic, they tend to just stop and make a noise as if the driver's turned off the engine. I've noticed this on route 9. |
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Post by ilovelondonbuses on Dec 19, 2013 20:16:05 GMT
Also the LTs give a more comfortable ride than the Tube. But the Tube is faster than the LTs and the LTs do some weird thing as in that when they're stuck in traffic, they tend to just stop and make a noise as if the driver's turned off the engine. I've noticed this on route 9. All hybrids do that . That just means that is solely working on electric power in that point of time. |
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Post by snoggle on Dec 19, 2013 23:30:08 GMT
Hardly - I had just looked at the TfL info before I saw your post. There is a 40 odd minute gap for a w/b bus running beyond Marble Arch. No NHG bound buses between York Way and NHG which is ludicrous at this time of night. There was also a short turning journey n/b at Brecknock Road which strikes me as a bit odd this late at night unless it's to try to fill in the 40 minute w/b gap. Much of the problem could have a lot to do with the Euston/Kings Cross areas I feel. Especially that end of Tottenham Court Road. Also the evening service on Wednesday night was subject to a diversion heading into the centre of town owing to a closure of Gower Street. OK thanks for that. That let's Metroline off for last night. However the route performance has not been wonderful the rest of the week either. Just strikes me as odd given the evening service should be straightforward as the buses are in OPO mode then so less risk of nonsense with getting the "start button" pressed. And for Mr Freebbc - it is just worth pointing out that last night the Central Line was in a mess because of a problem at St Pauls earlier in the evening. Why should people be forced to take the tube if they wish to go by bus because it's more convenient or cheaper? The tube is 50% more expensive on PAYG in Zone 1 and nearly 100% more expensive for cash fares than the bus. That will make a difference to some people. And tonight's summary is a 26 minute gap west of Marble Arch and a 21 minute gap heading up to Archway but with 5 buses bunched at Warren St where it looks like a load of buses have been turned as there's a 19 minute gap at the preceeding stop! Deep joy for the route's passengers. |
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Post by vjaska on Dec 20, 2013 0:35:53 GMT
But the Tube is faster than the LTs and the LTs do some weird thing as in that when they're stuck in traffic, they tend to just stop and make a noise as if the driver's turned off the engine. I've noticed this on route 9. All hybrids do that . That just means that is solely working on electric power in that point of time. Only hybrids with stop start technology do the 'turning off' notion, hybrids with out still make noise even when idling. |
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Surely it can't be that hard to run a x12 headway service in the evening given the northern and western bits of the route are relatively quick and not overly congested?
