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Post by COBO on Jan 3, 2014 15:11:03 GMT
I'll nominate the 482 to be axed without replacement. What about the large number of employees to/from Heathrow and Southall who use the route? Possibly reduce frequencies at certain times of the day, but leave it at that. Maybe or axe the 482 and bring back the 435.
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Post by beaver14uk on Jan 3, 2014 15:51:45 GMT
Be interested to know who these people are. Best way to save money would be to axe the many members of TfL earning obscene amounts of money
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Post by vjaska on Jan 3, 2014 16:49:02 GMT
One route where you'd scrap a section of route. Please say which section you'd scrap.The 109 or 250 between Brixton & Streatham Hill (Telford Avenue) - there is still another 6 routes serving the same section so I'm sure we can cope One route where you'd scrap Sunday services.Again, the 109 or 250 will have to take the brunt here. 2 exceptionally busy routes which I personally wouldn't touch. Rather get rid of the 333 and also the 255. I prefer to hit the routes that have more back up routes available than the ones that don't - certainly wouldn't touch either the 255 & 333, especially the 255.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2014 17:17:38 GMT
We spend a lot of time coming with ideas to improve bus routes on the forum. However a New Year means we can't keep raiding the piggy bank and have to, instead, sharpen the axe and start cutting services to save money. Therefore your ideas for saving money are requested. Please nominate :- One route you'd scrap altogether without replacement. Route 415 is taken as read so can't be nominated. One route where you'd reduce early morning and evening services. Please say how much you'd reduce services by. You can, if you wish, scrap service at these times completely. One route where you'd reduce peak hour services. Please say how much you'd reduce services by. One route where you'd scrap a section of route. Please say which section you'd scrap. One route where you'd scrap Sunday services. Clearly passengers may be inconvenienced by your proposals but we don't care. We must save money!! I'd scrap the 138, 178, 199, 231, 296, 312, 330, 332, 396, B11, T32, T33. Axing the 178 & T33? Both routes suffer from SEVERE overcrowding at all time of the day
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Post by snowman on Jan 3, 2014 17:21:30 GMT
I'll stick to SW London
691 scrap it as it runs outside school catchment which was changed few years ago so is now little used
14 or 22 kill one of them on Sundays
71 remove alternate buses Hook- Chessington
K2 remove hospital extension fro Eden Street evenings as it parallels many other routes. The few people that go to the Hospital in evenings inevitably drive so this is just carrying around fresh air
371 remove Richmond bus station-Manor Circus section, causes too much delay and tube passengers often walk from the stop by Waitrose rather than go around the one way system so doesn't need to do this heavily bused section.
65 and 71 overlap should be removed from 20:30 to 06:30 rather than just middle of night by making it 65 only for longer hours. The concept is used now just amend operating hours.
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Post by vjaska on Jan 3, 2014 19:08:02 GMT
I'd scrap the 138, 178, 199, 231, 296, 312, 330, 332, 396, B11, T32, T33. Axing the 178 & T33? Both routes suffer from SEVERE overcrowding at all time of the day I wouldn't axe the T33 but it certainly does not suffer from severe overcrowding at all times of the day. It's busy during the peaks and that's about it - at other times, it's is averagely used at best.
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Post by Connor on Jan 3, 2014 19:28:41 GMT
Axing the 178 & T33? Both routes suffer from SEVERE overcrowding at all time of the day I wouldn't axe the T33 but it certainly does not suffer from severe overcrowding at all times of the day. It's busy during the peaks and that's about it - at other times, it's is averagely used at best. A bit out there but how about a new (circular?) route combining route 359, the Selsdon Vale section of the T33 and the Forestdale section of the T31.
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Post by DT 11 on Jan 3, 2014 19:31:52 GMT
I'd scrap the 138, 178, 199, 231, 296, 312, 330, 332, 396, B11, T32, T33. Axing the 178 & T33? Both routes suffer from SEVERE overcrowding at all time of the day The 178 only ever suffers from overcrowding during the School rush. Off peak it is dead, during the peaks it could do with 12 Metre buses IMO. The P4 is TLs most overcrowded single decker route which IMO needs double Deckers.
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Post by VPL630 on Jan 3, 2014 19:37:03 GMT
We spend a lot of time coming with ideas to improve bus routes on the forum. However a New Year means we can't keep raiding the piggy bank and have to, instead, sharpen the axe and start cutting services to save money. Therefore your ideas for saving money are requested. Please nominate :- One route you'd scrap altogether without replacement. Route 415 is taken as read so can't be nominated. One route where you'd reduce early morning and evening services. Please say how much you'd reduce services by. You can, if you wish, scrap service at these times completely. One route where you'd reduce peak hour services. Please say how much you'd reduce services by. One route where you'd scrap a section of route. Please say which section you'd scrap. One route where you'd scrap Sunday services. Clearly passengers may be inconvenienced by your proposals but we don't care. We must save money!! I'd scrap the 138, 178, 199, 231, 296, 312, 330, 332, 396, B11, T32, T33. If you have ever done the T33 you would know that it picks up people and is a very useful route, I would even go as far as extending it over the T32 route and then get rid of the T32
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Post by Mokujin on Jan 3, 2014 19:50:11 GMT
Withdraw route 330 or extend it to Poplar, All Saints via East India Dock Road and extend D7 to Canning Town via East India Dock Road aswell. Also withdraw route 353 and replace it with route T32.
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Post by twobellstogo on Jan 3, 2014 19:55:22 GMT
Also withdraw route 353 and replace it with route T32. I would prefer to keep the historic 353 number and get rid of T32. Even so, the case for much of the T32 route is probably one of the least viable in London.
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Post by Mokujin on Jan 3, 2014 20:01:19 GMT
Also withdraw route 353 and replace it with route T32. I would prefer to keep the historic 353 number and get rid of T32. Even so, the case for much of the T32 route is probably one of the least viable in London. Actually you are right. T32 should be withdrawn then 353 extended to New Addington replacing part of the T32.
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Post by danorak on Jan 3, 2014 20:03:48 GMT
I'd scrap the 138, 178, 199, 231, 296, 312, 330, 332, 396, B11, T32, T33. I think with some of those, I'd seriously consider a replacement for parts of those routes you mention, Connor. I'd put either the 47 or 188 through the Pepys Estate as a 199 replacement, a route to replace T33 through Selsdon Vale (maybe 353) and rerouting the 244 to cover the Overton Road/Alsike Road parts of B11. Really though, there are much more worthy candidates for axing than 178, 199 or B11, imo. Some, erm, interesting choices there... The 178 serves an important school & hospital link as it is & will become more important over the next few years as the new Kidbrooke Village development opens. The B11 will also become more important as it will serve Crossrail at Abbey Wood. I will now go away and ponder my own ideas...
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Post by Tangy on Jan 3, 2014 20:13:44 GMT
One route in my area, the 357, whenever I see it on Sundays it just follows the more frequent 97 and thus has hardly anyone on it! Also what is point of the Hospital extension on Sundays when buses have a stupid 28 minute stand time?!?
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Post by IanF on Jan 3, 2014 20:18:04 GMT
We spend a lot of time coming with ideas to improve bus routes on the forum. However a New Year means we can't keep raiding the piggy bank and have to, instead, sharpen the axe and start cutting services to save money. Therefore your ideas for saving money are requested. Please nominate :- One route you'd scrap altogether without replacement. Route 415 is taken as read so can't be nominated. One route where you'd reduce early morning and evening services. Please say how much you'd reduce services by. You can, if you wish, scrap service at these times completely. One route where you'd reduce peak hour services. Please say how much you'd reduce services by. One route where you'd scrap a section of route. Please say which section you'd scrap. One route where you'd scrap Sunday services. Clearly passengers may be inconvenienced by your proposals but we don't care. We must save money!! I'd scrap the 138, 178, 199, 231, 296, 312, 330, 332, 396, B11, T32, T33. Ok the 178 always full and it has an useful link as its serves Lewisham, Kidbrooke and QE Hospital. The B11 lone serves Alsike Road and Lodge Hill and is always full. 199 lone seves Pepys Estate you would need to stick a route through there
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